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    How much power u got at the wheels buddy?^^ Just wonderin

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    Seems like a awesome setup, but I think buddy wants more.

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    Dont know "buddy" haven't dynoed it yet. And all im lookin for is around 300hp to the wheels. Not too much to ask from a 23 right? Cause if it is i'm really leaning towards all motor with 13:1 compression.

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    Right! I was really wanting to know how much power bjaccord had! All motor with 13:1? damn I cant even imagine the power.

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    Well right off the jump its probably somewhere around 400 whp.

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    Wow buddy sounds good to me! I wonder what I should do with my h22? Im about to buy another block from Fivestar's buddy! I plan to either build it high compression or boost. I dont know. Should I just build the head on my block now and then build the spare block or what? What would u do? I want like 250whp!

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    it depends on what you have done already. Me personally i would build the spare block with an h22 stroker kit and be done with it. Pushin somewhere around 300-350 with a built head and running on 93 octane.

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    I heard stroker kits are not healthy for honda motors, but Im going to start to build that spare block!!

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    cool. how did you come across that block. i've been looking for a spare 23 block for the longest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakilla4ever
    cool. how did you come across that block. i've been looking for a spare 23 block for the longest.
    If you needed just a spare block without a crank...u could have used the h22 block and just put the h23 crank in there....they are the same thing
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    Found the block on this site! Its a h22 block! It has a spun bearing, buts its better then the one I found with a cracked piston. How in the hell do u crack a piston??

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    Quote Originally Posted by o_bomb
    Found the block on this site! Its a h22 block! It has a spun bearing, buts its better then the one I found with a cracked piston. How in the hell do u crack a piston??
    Running too lean, dropping a valve, hitting the piston with a 10lb hammer cause you're mad
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    well im just lookin for a spare block either h22 or 23. Doesn't matter but i don't want to spend a grip on it.

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    I heard that! More than grip u might as well hang yourself!!

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    whoa it ain't that serious. but i feel you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dakilla4ever
    whoa it ain't that serious. but i feel you.




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    When I get the h22 block I will post pics!

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    cool. unless i find a dirt cheap h22 it looks like im going turbo. Preciate all the info.

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    NO problem mon!

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    The other day in kennesaw, I met a guy that had a f22b in a cb7 boosting 8lbs that had 200hp wit 200tq. Thats what he was claiming. i going to run him on thursday to see how fast it is. If he gets me by 2 or 3 cars then he is workin wit something!! What do u think. Its definitely a at home turbo kit he made off of cb7tuner.com

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    yeah you could have a good race on your hands. All depends on if he turns the boost up or not?

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    But his kit looked like garbage!

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    I need to do a 2nd gear 60mph drop on him to make it a race! When I got tuned at mainstream I put down 186hp 153tq! 8lbs on a f22b will make 200?

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    yes those numbers are correct. A member from cb7tuner.com told me about this thread. actual numbers are 205.1 wtq and 193.7 whp @ 8psi on a 14b. Those numbers are weak actually. And since then I've been experiencing a boost creep to 10psi. I'm actually in the process of re-tuning my ignition, so I may be a bit faster thursday... My setup does look like garbage, its all used parts and I did it about a year and a half ago. How many boosted members you know running that long? . We actually have about 6-10 cb7s coming out this thursday, its gonna be a good turnout so hope to see you there.
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    THIS THURSDAY? whats going on?

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    yeah, this thursday, a bunch of cb7s meet up and hang out since were all local. we do it every thursday, at least until it starts getting really cold

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    where do you meet up or is it only for accords?

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    its for everyone. In alpharetta, it's the babies r us by north point mall. Every thursday a bunch of people meet up there around 9pm in front of the babies r us. So we have a few cb7s local so we all meet up there and hang out. It's pretty cool. If anyone is in the area you should stop by

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92ex
    yes those numbers are correct. A member from cb7tuner.com told me about this thread. actual numbers are 205.1 wtq and 193.7 whp @ 8psi on a 14b. Those numbers are weak actually. And since then I've been experiencing a boost creep to 10psi. I'm actually in the process of re-tuning my ignition, so I may be a bit faster thursday... My setup does look like garbage, its all used parts and I did it about a year and a half ago. How many boosted members you know running that long? . We actually have about 6-10 cb7s coming out this thursday omar, its gonna be a good turnout so hope to see you there.


    IS this rob?? Yo dude. Props to the garbage at home turbo kit!! I know it will be a good race!! Im going to try to come out thursday!! I really wanna see what your crew is working with!! Dont know 2 many people runnin that long!!

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    Damn, i wonder how my lude (stock h23) will fare out there. I ran a friend of mine with an RSX base today and we were neck and neck, we had 4 runs, best runs I will ever have I think, so close, we were both 2-2. I also lined up against my friend in a Teg LS with bolt ons and we went from a 40 kick, we were pretty even, me ahead by a little, but i had a passenger. I would love to run a CB7 sometime, lol, just like my old one (i miss my CB7, i wish i had gone ahead with my H22 swap), to see how the Lude would fare. Maybe one with bolt on's pushing 130-140whp (LOL what a beast).

    I had a weird feeling today that i need to get ITB's, lol, I wonder how that would fare on a non-vtec h23 motor, probably be more loud then anytihng else, it would be kick arse tho. What do you guys think? I don't tihnk i will mod this H23, but how would ITB's be??



    And Omar, how's the CD player search going man? Check my WTB headunit thread.

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    2 guys over on cb7tuner.com are slowly going through the process of itbs on the cb7s. one has the f22a bottom end with h23 head, and another jdm f22b i believe. The only complete itbs ive seen on a cb7 was 2point6, he has around 260whp on his h22. itbs are very nice, sounds very aggressive, a PITA to tune and get to idle properly for daily driving. but when your looking to get the most outta the h23, its a good step.

    If you guys are looking to run cb7s, I don't really suggest you run any of the ones at north point, most of them are sleepers. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92ex
    2 guys over on cb7tuner.com are slowly going through the process of itbs on the cb7s. one has the f22a bottom end with h23 head, and another jdm f22b i believe. The only complete itbs ive seen on a cb7 was 2point6, he has around 260whp on his h22. itbs are very nice, sounds very aggressive, a PITA to tune and get to idle properly for daily driving. but when your looking to get the most outta the h23, its a good step.

    If you guys are looking to run cb7s, I don't really suggest you run any of the ones at north point, most of them are sleepers. lol.
    It's nothing serious with me, just nostalgia and sentiment, running my new car against my old car, haha. So yah, ITB's would be kick arse, but that would prolly cost me more then my car. How much power can an h23 handle reliably?

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    a bit over 200whp with the h23... it has pretty good potential.

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    H23's always seen to have a problem with rod bearings and main bearings when you put the H22A VTEC head on it... Must be a problem with the oil journals on the stock H23 rods, which were not made to rev very high.
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    So what if you actually build the block. Can it withstand more power then?

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    but building a h23 block would really be a waste, because you would be spending a lot of money to make it do what a stock h22a will do... if you replaced all the bearings with race bearings, it would be better, but the cost of tearing down the engine and prett ymuch rebuilding the bottom end would be pretty pricey. most of the gaskets would need replacing if you take it apart. If you want to auto-x the car a lot, leave it non-vtec.... look at toda's VTEC killer system... it eliminates the vtec on B series VTEC engines to prevent any oil pressure drop due to vtec engagement and also maks for a smoother powerband up high, with a slight loss of torque on the bottom end...
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    yeah but i've decided to go turbo. So building it is my best bet. And then shouldn't be a waste but be manditory. I've researched both mod types and i've found that boosting it will give me the power that i'm looking for. I'm going to use this car for drag and my next prelude for autocross.

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    So I guess you should get this moved to forced induction instead of all-motor.
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    yeah i know but it originally started as a quest to find info on builing my 23 all motor. And it seemed pretty good until i said 13:1 compression and everyone flaked and said its no point in doing. See i have a prelude cause i don't like following the band wagon and getting a little civic or something, but i also want to go further away from the norm by sticking with the h23 intsead of "H22VTEC". Vtec ain't all that to me. All i want to do is really build the shit out of my 23 so i can stomp mudholes in h22 all day.

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    so you can stomp mudholes in stock h22a's all day maybe... you will have to spend twice as much on a H23 as you would a H22A to get the same results.
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