NEW VW GTI vs. Civic SI vs. MINI S (you choose)

[R_Rated]

1/4 w/ a chipped 2.0t would put you low 13 or high 12 depending on driver.... all german cars are known for weight alot of sound deadoning, heavy carpets, etc... i know taking out my rear seats and spare saved me 200lbs

also on the GTI you can get automatic w/ paddle shifting (quicker than the manual)

...that is a bit over-optimistic..... 3 pedals is always faster than 2 in real life... and a chipped 2.0T will get you mid 14's unless you are talking bout gutting the whole car.

[4dmin]

...that is a bit over-optimistic..... 3 pedals is always faster than 2 in real life... and a chipped 2.0T will get you mid 14's unless you are talking bout gutting the whole car.

umm if 250whp/300lbs can't get you in 13's you can't drive worth a shit or the car better weigh 5000lbs

[careyk]

umm if 250whp/300lbs can't get you in 13's you can't drive worth a shit or the car better weigh 5000lbs

How true...