O, thought you was talking about the other beaner...lolOriginally Posted by h22 jones
O, thought you was talking about the other beaner...lol
Well if u think I messed with the motor then y would I have to took it to h22jones to look at it I would have told him just to build me a short block and then after he had it ready I would have took the car Down there and swapped the motor then. Why does it have to be a beaner?
You the only owner since rsxappeal? I thought it was sold again already..
actually rsxappeal sold it to somebody i forgot his name i bought it from him but y would rsxappeal ask me at the meet if it was still running good hmmm
Ok........
Lol thats a common question anyone would ask about their old car..
well it doesnt even matter to me it happen oh well it will just bite them in the ass who ever did it ill just fix it and be done with bigger an d better power
Forsure I hear ya. But honestly when rsxappoeal had the car. It was never took apart what so ever.
What was actual done? A bearing put on over an old bearing? That is just plain stupid to hear. If thats the case that enginewould be toast a long time ago!
The Upper half has wiped the lock while the bottom half of the bearing hasn't wiped the lock. You can figure the rest out.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
well that doesnt mean it was bearing slapped. I mean some signs point to that, but i have seen bottom bearings destroyed and top bearings perfectly fine, and vice versa. Maybe im not understanding exactly what you are saying?
NAD auto ive always had good condition low mileage engines, but im sorry any JDM importer tells the same "30,000" mile bullshit story. The only reason why they do that is because they know there is no way to actually tell what condition the engine is. All they can do is compression test it before they yank it.
Explain to me how time goes on and the engines keep staying the same mileage they were 10 years ago? Are there just endless supplies of low mileage engines in japan? come on gimme a break.
bottom line is when you buy a used car it doesnt really matter, theres no warranty. So a kid bought a motor and he was POSSIBLY lied to or someone patched it to sell it, wouldnt be the first time, surely wont be the last. Should have had it checked out more thoroughly. Also if this guy has had the car for more than a month, its just tought luck, regardless of what happened.
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Exactly.
I dont think anyone has just put a bearing in there to save anything. Its a used engine obviously not fresh. It smoked a tad since the first drop in. then just got worse. Never had any noise like bearing, or that sort. Now almost half a year later it knocks and people are sayin the original h2b owner pieced it together. Like I said, it was never disassembled in our hands. A fresh vc gasket and oil pan gasket and water pump thats bout it
sounds to me like it changed hands so many times no one knows what really happened.
The engine smoked and it ran low on oil and that is prob what caused it to "knock". The original owner cannot be responsible for what happened 2-3 guys later on down the road.
Half a year? Mike how long has this guy had this car? Cause if its anymore than a month, he really cant complain , its just bad luck. The appearance of inpropriety doesnt mean it actually exists
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Nobody is even complaining about it I bought it ow well it getting a new short block so.
This.
theres a ton of subtle accusations being thrown around, so im just curious the entire details.
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well iam the owner of the car so...
so speak up then jesus what the fuck.
Ok let me see if the timeline is right here, correct me if i am wrong:
h22 jones posts a pic of a motor with a spun bearing, insinuates someone(previous owner) "bandaged it" and sold it knowingly ,i assume, to you
Effilliated insinuates that person is on IA and "built the motor" or somehow was shady in representing the condition of the motor
Black4drek comes on here saying its his friends car but from a long time ago
h22 jones basically insinuates more wrongdoing or that he knows who did it and they can speak up
Uwish claims he owns the car now and its not that big of a deal
black4drEK says the car has been sold several times until this point
So the point is, how long have you OWNED this car BEFORE it started knocking, who did you buy it from and are they on IA, what was told to you, etc. DETAILS PEOPLE DETAILS.
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why do u care? do u want to know what time i go take a shit to lol
Lol the man is just trying to figure who the shady seller was. Take it easy, no need to get all hyped.
O by the way NAD AUTO has had a lot of bad rep with selling old ass motors that are fucked up. I was told this personally by many people/SHOPS
JEI FTW LOL
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Then dont post a fucking thread on a public forum basically accusing someone of wrong doing if all you are going to do is sit there and be as vague as possible.
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I never had any issues from Nad but i knew BAY from a long time ago. JEI (matt) is a good friend and hes always got the best stuff too.
I have heard problems from other people with NAD though, and they were similar to whats posted here
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didnt even accuse anybody
Im sorry but are you a retarded? Jones says he is "posting the info FOR THE OWNER OF THE CAR" which is you. So you should clarify any incorrect statements, and be able to answer simple questions like 1) HOW LONG HAVE YOU OWNED THE CAR 2) WHO DID YOU BUY IT FROM 3) IS IT SOMEONE ON IA
If you cant , then dont have someone who has your car post a thread basically calling someone out for some shady practices. Dont post in the thread like its "not a big deal" when you are basically accusing someone of ripping you off.
EVERYONE including you has insinuated someone has done wrongdoing. quit pussy footing around
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Lol.. this shit is stupid..
The car was obviously neglected after it left the hands of RSXappeal! he takes very good care of all his stuff. Now after 2 other owners its knocking or whatever.. And its his fault!!!??? Get the fuck out of here.. there is NO BAD SELLER BULLSHIT going on, atleast on His behalf.
Like I said 100000000 times... the engine was never taken apart to "bandage" anything.. atleast NOT by us or him.
If im correct, the car was sold to 1civic's friend then was sold to UWISH. I honestly dont give a fuck what yall are saying.
From what I have seen the engine was starved of oil..... especially if you dont know the correct amount of oil it should have,with the engine tilted like that...IDK.
Wow this is crazy! Thanks for trying over and over to clear things up.
ok enough with the bickering back in forth of who did what. The point is something has happened to the bearing and now h22 jones is building a bottom end for him, lets leave it at that.
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Hold on my thread let me clear this up for the people that dont build engines .
Ok as far as negleted besides the center main bearings every other bearing looks brand new (but run low on oil i dont think so )
I guess i havnt explained this correctly since im getting a tone of stupid comments so let me try once again .
Im not insinuating anything im telling you this motor has been patched period.
the center main bearing has half a bearing on top and half a bearing on bottom . both have a tab (called the lock ) that holds them in place while building the motor and stoping them from moving side to side . When a motor starts nocking its because it has wore the bearing out far enough that it has spun the bearing . That means that the lock get swiped off and the bearing spins with the motor . There is no way half a bearing spins (the half with the lock gone) and the other half doesnt . not to mention the bottom bearing takes all the abuse and it was the one that hasnt spun . Also even know the lock was wiped and both bearings were in place when i dropped the cradle one them had wiped a lock previously. Ok i can show you pictures were the cradle and the block are scared in the center main bearing journal were a bearing has spun although know bearing was spun when i tore it down . Had the lock not been wiped from previously spinning i would have not even looked to see the scratches in the cradle . In theory if you catch a motor before it spins a bearing you can normally just replace the bearings . Ok so i tore this one down no bearings have spun so i should be abkle to just replace bearings right ? Then i notice were a bearing has spun before in this block and one of the locks are gone on half a bearing plus the crank is beat to hell and back on that journal but yet there was no spun bearing when i dropped the cradle . In other words the half bearing that has spun previously was in the correct place this time just the lock wipped. if you cant understand this please dont post because to people that build motors and understand that this is not possible it makes you look ignorant . I dont care how much abuse this motor went threw or if the oil plug feel slap out this is not possible simple as that .
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
I bought the car from RSXappeal, it was driven maybe 4-5 times.. Had it maybe a month tops, Uwish has had this car 4-5 months atleast!! I listed to him all the problems that I found, he was aware of any trouble.. I told him about the orignal thread, and also who the owner/builder was.. At no point did I say it was built, I was told it was stock..
Now, somethings where left out from rsxappeal, and yes he got a phone call.. I was told after buying this car that it smoked and that is why rsxappeal sold it, I went with my gut and sold it!! The reason I say that I had it a month is because I took it to the Varsity meet, and the next meet Uwish took it..
And Trust me I wasn't hurting for money, I paid 6k for the car and sold it for the same amount, also listing the problems which rsxappeal failed to list..
Last edited by 1civic; 06-29-2011 at 09:36 PM.
I donmt think he builds motors and like you he probably doesnt know enough about what im trying to explain to accuse anybody of anything which is why he is trying to just let it go . I dont care who did it i just wish you guys could understand that this is not possible period . This motor is as oil stained as i have seen a motor but yet every other bearing is perfect . If they would have replaced this half no one would have ever none but obviously since it was the top one and the lock spun it was probably in a bind and they couldnt get it out . had they nobody would ever know but i dont care if you take the thrust washers slapp otu and run the motor with out oil this is not possible . I know you know alot about hondas and could tell anybody how to make power but unless you have built several motors ( even then obviously) its hard to understand . Maybe i explained it better for you mike because id realy like some intellegent insight or ideas but thats not going to happen if i cant make anybody understand.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
none of that matters now and its easier to just blame it own a old abused motor which if that was the case the owner could care less and wants it built . I never really thought that i would know half the guys that owned this car lol and not trying to point fingures just want everybody to know this is not possible period.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
I was just giving Mike a time-line.. It's not like it was just sold to Uwish..lol, it's been 6 months since the orignal builder sold it..
And yes I see your point, but It's hard to say how long it's been that way..
i agree its all the ,it was run with out oil or it was dooged otu shit thats aggravating . None of that has anything to do with this.I was just giving Mike a time-line.. It's not like it was just sold to Uwish..lol, it's been 6 months since the orignal builder sold it..
And yes I see your point, but It's hard to say how long it's been that way..
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
Naw, that's why i said to post the others.. Easier to show all 8 and let people see what your explaining.. Makes no sense that they missed one bearing, all could have been replaced without pulling the crank like you said.. That alone shows they had no clue!!! LOL
Is it a Honda bearing or bearings in the motor? At first it looked like the bearing was to big? But after your book you wrote I understand more about what your pointing out.. lol
I hear ya! Well it was like that, when it was purchased at Nad auto then. If none of the owners from IA have touched the internals. I just dont see how it would have lasted that long, but ehh.. Whatever. Gl with the build.
That is the crazy part!! It's been sold for half a year.. I wouldn't think this patch could stand that amount of time..
And Yes H22jones, and Uwish, Goodluck!! Make some power from the H2B!! Make some H fans proud!!
Yea Situation is just screwy to me too! But I cant really say much more. I have said my facts.
Yea H is the way.. For now atleast.. IMO
Same here, I've never been one to patch a motor!! I have a longblock sitting now that runs, but it's not 100%.. I can't sell that, even tho it will make 220+, that is just wrong of me, so that motor will be tore down and rebuilt before it's sold!!
Karma is a bitch!!
Yea.. I dont use my head for a fucking hat rack..I have more sense, then to do some Bullshit like that.
I'd bank on NAD, and only because I've got bullshit from them in the past, I lost 3200 on a clip which the motor was junk, 2nd motor was no better, i was fed up and just bought a longblock, I then bought a b20 which had so much oil crud it had to be rebuilt, after that I gave up on the low miles motor, seems to be a scam.. With good comes bad, but damn!!!
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