Im building another h22 for a guy on here so i figured id post a build thread.
A new h22 build (the one with the bearing from other thread)
Im building another h22 for a guy on here so i figured id post a build thread.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
i kno who the previous owner was and also the person who put the motor together(IA Member). UhOh, sounds like sum1 fucked up
11.3 @ 117
Midnight Auto
MORRIS TUNING
I dont hate on anyone for not being able to build a motor . Its the patching it together after it fucks up and selling as if its in good shape thta aggravates me . But hey im not the one that bought it . To start off with its a bone stock motor so why was it so called built ? I mean was it nocking so they thought new bearings would fix it ? Id just like to know the whole story on the motor although i got a pretty good guess just by looking at them two bearings i posted . Im sure somebody will catch what makes this si fucked up if not ill post why after i see if anybody else catches it. I havnt even told the guy that bought it yet . I told him what i speculated but not that i have proof.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
other then having a ugly engine bay and a cut up kevlar hood to hide the motor i dont see it
Originally Posted by h22 jones
11.3 @ 117
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MORRIS TUNING
Hmm, looks to be the wrong size.. ether that or the crank did not fit the block.. Show the other bearings
Let it be know... Thx!!
The lock is still on one bearing and not on the other. Also you can see wear the one with the lock gone has spun were the other hasnt . Tell me how you get one bearing that has spun and one bearing that has a good lock on the same main lobe of the crank ? Im guessing motor started nocking so bottom bearings were replaced so car would run long enough to sell. Just my opinon other ideas are welcome but before you say the bearing was put it backwards there for collasping the lock you would be wrong . The top bearing has spun before just not with the bottom half thats in the motor.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
looks to be a ton of wear on one side of the bearing more than the other. Thrush washers put in backwards? or not even existent?
that would cause the side to side movement and cause uneven wear.
Hard to tell from the pics
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Someone did not check the clearances, ether the bearings where wrong or the maincaps where swapped and /or TQ was to much.. Etherway that is some shit..
The bearing with the lock gone has spun in this motor before while the other one hasnt . This would be normal if this wasnt the same bearing in the same journal .
Most people dont realize you can change the top and the bottom bearing with out pulling the crank . Looks like to me this motor spun the center main bearing so someone dropped the cradle and replaced the bottom side with out replacing the top side . This is why one half the bearing has the lock gone and the other side doesnt . Who ever did this didnt do it thinking they fixed the problem but rather did it in order to sell the car with out replacing the motor.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
seems like the same boat that im in with shit being thrown together!!!
I didn't understand what you meant when you said the lock was gone but now I see it. The tab is rounded off on the right bearing.
Like Bobby said clearances look like it was way too tight or it was starved for oil. Hard to get clearances that far off if it's oem bearings because they are generally in the middle (green).
Or it spun a bearing before and damaged the rod/crank and they just slapped new ones in and didn't resize the rod.
If you can hear a motor knocking, it's trash (at least the rods and crank are usually)
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Block and crank are trashed no doubt . I doubt they checked clearences while they were putting half a bearing on a already spun crank lol.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
It turns out o happen to know who owned it and who built the motor also pretty well. I'll let them figure all this out just posting what I found for the owner of the car .
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
Damn!
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I surely hope your not speaking on me, mister know it all.............................................
Yup that was my friends old Hatch
The Engine was never built. IT WAS STOCK, STRAIGHT FROM NAD AUTO. Never be disassembled.. Well until now i guess.. Lol
Maybe after he sold the car, the new owners took it apart. I dont know....
So UHHHOOOHHHHHHH....
I would also like to know who took the engine apart..
When we had it, it ran decent. Just smoked a tad bit.. Hmm.... that sucks.
just curious of those who know this car.....was it ever tuned? If not i know why it smoked so bad lol
11.7@116- All motor H2B Integra
I think it was tuned, not positive tho!
It was tuned! Made 205hp If im not mistaken.
Weither it was tunned or not didnt cause this and yes the motor is completely stock which makes me wonder why everybody keeps saying it was built. If it was built why ? Im sure the guy that owns the car and lives in atl and find out more then me . I pulled the motor and i tore the motor the down so im sure what i found is messed up. Honda did not install a bearing with the lock wipped off from spinning with a bearing that the lock is in place on the center main journal lol. it didnt happen lol someone pieced this motor back together period .
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
I could really care less about this period. Im just going by what I was told personally
I surely hope your not speaking on me, mister know it all.............................................
Yup that was my friends old Hatch
The Engine was never built. IT WAS STOCK, STRAIGHT FROM NAD AUTO. Never be disassembled.. Well until now i guess.. Lol
Maybe after he sold the car, the new owners took it apart. I dont know....
So UHHHOOOHHHHHHH....
11.3 @ 117
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Im glad it wasnt you lol. We have done plenty of good business in the past with nothing shady going on lol. I dont understand why someone put the time in this car that they did then sold it even if the motor was nocking . maybe not everybodys choice of color but the car has tones of time put into it . Realy nice car .
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
I can tell u that we never took the motor apart, no sense in taking a running motor apart just to replace with factory parts and bandage a major problem...
Maybe after he sold the car, the new owners took it apart. I dont know....
So UHHHOOOHHHHHHH....
That leaves NADA auto.. Or the owner!! Why did he bring it to you H22Jones?
Obviously. My friend was the one who droped it in straight from nad auto last year! untouched used engine he sold the car over three to four months ago. It has been threw 2 or more people since! Seems like one of them dont know how much oil to put in it. Smh
I would love to hear what was told.......lol another, I have pics of every engine I have built. This is not on the list..
mr.jones.. you can obviously tell the engine was not " overhauled" correct?
It went from RSXappeal to this guy who ask H22jones to rebuild it, so I would guess the new owner didn't know about the mark on the dip-stick..
I am the original owner. Well not original owner of the car but original h2b owner. I put that thing together last summer, rode out all winter long and sold it this spring. It was a fresh automatic motor I bought from NAD Auto. It was tuned as soon as it was dropped in and made 207 hp/160 tq. It ran wonderful, just started smoking towards the end right when I sold it. It has been a skeez apparently after she left me, because I hear it has been passed along to either 3 or 4 people since I sold it. Who knows what has been done to this car?
The owner also was calling my boy victor out at a varsity meet after he got it...lololol
Arent you his friend? uwish or soo..
It was brought to me because it was making noise which was from the main bearings . It wasnt that loud yet because they hadnt spun this time (yet) and it was hard to figure out what the noise was till i pulled the cradle off .Ill put it this way it run long enough to almost smooth the crank back out were the bearing spun before . I cant beleive it ran as long as it did. The owner had no idea what the noise was and we actually thouht it was a broke ring gland till he got to the shop (car on a trailer) and i heard it . My point if the owner did this he would have said hey i tried this didnt work so rebuild it for me . Guy has plenty of money and had no idea of anything just that it started nocking till i sent hima picture of the bearings . im really still not sure if he understands completely whats going on . I havnt had time to talk just texted him .
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
first thing i checked and car was full of oil ( not new oil like somebody had just filled it up).
Im not being a prick but if you cant make a statement towards the reason of this thread then stop posting stupid shit it confuses everybody like the oil stick shit.
I dont care if he ran it with no oil at all it doesnt explain a set of bearing on the same main journal lobe with on having the lock wiped from spinning and the other not having the lock from spinning . Both bearings are still pretty thick no way one spun while the other didnt . Simple fact is look at the bearings there no were near the same . If anybody has tore down a motor then they no the bearings on each journal have the same markings on top and bottom because they see the same metal or same grooves that get put in the crank .
I hate to think anybody did this and would love a good explanation so if you got a theory post it up but ideas of why the motor blew isnt helping .
I know why it blew because it was pieced together with bull shit bearings after it turned a main bearing . Now that thats settled figure the rest out lol.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
Its not like its weird that a motor beat on by several different owners blew up . Thats not the problem . The question is did it spin a main bearing and somebody piece it back together and sell it . Unless somebody can explain to me other wise im absolutely sure of it simplke as that.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
Well, uwish has had that car as a DD for about 4 months now.. You wouldn't think the bearing could have lasted that long!! Seems fishy for sure!!!
Ether-way let the rebuild to bigger and better began..
Head has never been off as far as i can tell. Like i said why is everybody saying built engine its bone stock lol. besides the oil pan and cradle i cant tell this motor has ever been touched . Also it has a tone of miles on it . So if it was sold as a jdm 30,000 mile motor they lied . With that being said i have no doubt that i couldnt stand up to the abuse but thats not the point lol. who pieced it together and sold it is the point . There is no way naybody expected it to last like that so only reason to do it was to sell it .
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
I agree it suprises the hell out of me . On the other hand he seems to care less and has plenty of money to fix it so no need for him to lie .
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
His shit already blowed up dont blast him to lol.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
Who's shit blew up?
You know, i had a buddy that said they do some dirty shit to those JDM motor's.. Makes you wounder what you really are buying!! LOL
The guy that owns the car lol.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
I promise it wasnt a 100,000 mile motor lol. It had 150,000 plus i assure you.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
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