Me and my dad are almost done with one of the h22 builds (this is not my motor but real similar) that we are doing so i figured i would post some pictures. If my friend that im building it for wants to give the specs he can this should be a beast.
h22 build ,lots of pictures
Me and my dad are almost done with one of the h22 builds (this is not my motor but real similar) that we are doing so i figured i would post some pictures. If my friend that im building it for wants to give the specs he can this should be a beast.
Last edited by h22 jones; 03-15-2011 at 12:03 AM.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
I love the cut off head, great idea!
PS that doesnt look like an h22 :P
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Its a h22 block lol thats all im at liberty to say. It might be a tad bigger then a h22 just a tad lol. My dad hates claying so one day he grabs a old head that i had laying in the junk pile and turns the blade backwards in the skill saw, well you see the results lol. If you dont mine save me a old b16 and b18 head (i dont get many at my shop )thats toast if you have one and ill make both of us one of these ,it sure makes things easy.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
glad to see this one coming together mike. Yours next! lol
11.7@116- All motor H2B Integra
i have an ls and b16 junkers
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about time i want to see what this can do so i know what route im going with my next build... if it dont hit 300 im going toda
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is that my head?
yea i belive it is and i got your block or mike is saving your head for his car
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I do not beleive this motor will hit 300hp looking for more like 270-280 but it is a beast.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
hope to be running ice cold AC with it too
that's dope man!keep posted
got vtec?
whats the purpose of the cut head?
to check all my clearances . Most people clay the motor which involves putting clay on top of the piston tourqing everything down then pulling it back apart and measuring the clay . In most cases when your building a high compression engine you could have to clay it many rimes to get your clearances right this way i can use a feeler gauge to check everything and can see with my eyes how close the piston is coming to the valves. I like to run flat top pistons so the burn doesnt have to travel over the big domes . in order to get the compression up with out the dome i have to miss match rods and pistons so the valve reliefs are no longer were there suppose to be and have to be trimed out . With this cut off head i can see what needs to done to make sure the motor stays together . Most people guess at suff i dont i make sure its right. If you get a block sleeved they have to mill the block to make sure it seals which makes the clearances closer there for everything needs to be checked .
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
pictures of pistons being cut to lower compression .
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
awesomeOriginally Posted by h22 jones
pictures of pistons being cut to lower compression .
so where's ole buddy at with the spec's? lol
Keep it up man!!
I cant wait to finish mine!
He is the one that said hope to running ice cold ac and honestly he doesnt know the specs lol just a good friend that me and my dad decided to build alot badder motor then he wanted lol, He could tell you what the parts are that are in but the pictures should tell that its not hard to see at all. Rods look kinda skinny? had to dut dome pistons to lower compression but its a na motor must be a hell of a stroke im sure you can figure the rest out. Its the same build im running just my block is sleeved so my im running 88mm pistons instead of his 87mm and im going to run a intake built by us while he is running a euro r manifold. I beleive that although the euro r manifold is a nice manifold for a stock to probably 240hp motor that it will be the hold back on this motor im sure if it is he will change it. If i would have built the 240hp motor that he was asking me to the euro r manifold would have been fine but been there done that .I wanted to build something bigger and since the parts cost the same money either way no need in stopping at 240hp . A sleeved block is very exspensive and since they make pistons to run in the stock sleeves no need in spending that money .
Everything in this motor has been cut ,shaved, and built by very tight specs . im sure he dont give a shit about anybody knowing whats in the motor. I just dont want to give the parts list and everybody think they can bolt them together and make 280hp i wish it was that easy but its not. Everything in this motor has to be checked and as you can see the whole top of the piston has been cut, not just to dropp compression, but so there is the perfect amount of clearance between the piston and head . If you bolted these parts together with out doing anything to them the compression would be over 15.1 and the pistons would push the head off the block.
I have given a tone of different ways to build a nice cheap h22 how ever this is not one of them lol. He would have 500 in machine work and probably 2,000 dollars in just having us build it, just alot to do. My dad has had to cc this motor probably 10 times and that in its self is a pain . The upside is now we know what needs to be what if we build another one so we can get alot closer the first time we cut the pistons .He already had a h2b kit with a b16 trany with lsd so this should be nice na car.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
oOOOh pick me!! i know!! thats a lot of meat you took off there...
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yup lol ,would have been easier to order 9-1 compression and cut from there but same out come either way. We also balanced the pistons when we got done to make sure they all weighed the same amount . I sold justin at jj spec a set of 9-1 that would have been perfect for this but you never know till you get started .
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
also if you look at the width of the rods you can tell what crank he is running.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
I wouldnt think everyone would be able to just glance at the rods and know which crank. not too many people run a f23 crank (thats what it is).
Damn Mike yall got me wanting to put another one together!
could have just drilled a hole in the piston to lower the compression lol...
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there alot cheaper and easier to find than the a4 55mm plus you get that little extra stroke .... this may be my next setup but with a little extra comp. and a ferra setup with todas
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actually i have a 55mm h22 crank and a 55mm h23 crank at the shop we choose this crank for the extra stroke not because it was easy to find lol.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
I have a whole buncha f23 cranks
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I want.
I have three extra myself lol. the only problem with running a f23 crank is that crower is the only company that maked rods so be prepared to pay 800.00 for the rods lol . I just recieved my rods last week so im fixing to start on my motor.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
sick
What kind of piston is that? I would say Mahle going by the color of it, but they usually have the part # stamped on the quench area.
Either way, looks like you are trying to take your builds to the next level, and that is awesome to see.
Looks like wiseco to me
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yeah they are mahle. Stock sleeves
I thought that would be the case, considering that the Mahle are the best option for use with the stock FRM sleeves on the H-series. I'm no h-series expert though. However, I do love me some Mahle pistons!
The quench area has been cut off lol yes they are mahle. I do still have that set of 88mm wiesco pistons thats whats going in my motor since i have stock sleeves. I also picked up another sleeved block so we might build him another bottom end just to have laying around. I just hate buying 800.00 dollar rods . I heard that the rod bolts were the weak link in the f23 stock rods . I mean you realy dont need rods for na unless your turning the motor 9,000 rpms. After looking the rod bolts in the f23 rods and the f20b rods are identical and i beat the hell out of several f20b turning them to 9,000 no problems so maybe stock rods would be fine. I need to just build a budget h22 ,f23 botom end with stock shit turn the piss out of it and see what happens . I mean whats the worse that can happen you mess up a 150 dollar block and a 100 dollar ctrank and rods who cares. I can get 13.1 compression on stock h22 pistons on f23 rods and crank with a little cutting . I mean i could build a 13.1 compression 97mm stroke stock bottom end that would be nasty maybe ill do it.
252plus hp and 34.5 miles to the gallon all motor. 12.2 at 111
Quick question but what's the most compression you've ran on pump gas and got away with it... I want 300 pump weekend warrior
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good luck
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