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    Default K series or B series

    I didn't know where else to post this and I tried using the search function but came up with nothing.

    I am between the two. I can't decide which to go with. Is it really worth the expense for the K series? B series is cheaper yes, but will it be as good as a K series down the road? Which is stronger?? Internal and power wise?

    If anyone could put some input on this I would really appreciate it. Especially those who have had both...

    Thanks in advance

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    K series is worth it in the long run IMO, but it depends what your trying to do with the application I have a K24 block with a K20 head I love the power and for 3 months no issues......yet although I heard I will be facing some soon

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    Lol@ ur Sig, I don't think ur ready to come back. And to the post I say Hseries

    Quote Originally Posted by STRteg View Post
    K series is worth it in the long run IMO, but it depends what your trying to do with the application I have a K24 block with a K20 head I love the power and for 3 months no issues......yet although I heard I will be facing some soon
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    what about all the other letters in between? F,H,J

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    i agree with the second poster.
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    Really depends on how much hp you're looking for. 200hp NA? Just stay B-series. I always start dreaming of a k24 frank in my integra but it would honestly be cheaper for me to just go buy a car with a K in it(TSX, Accord, RSX, Ep3 newer SI coupes and sedans). I guess if you're will to ditch all the creature comforts(A/C, P/S) while swapping to a K then it wouldn't be overly expensive assuming you got a good deal on a engine, tranny, and K-Pro. All the little swap parts really start to add the fuck up though...

    All depends on your goals... Truth be told I'd rather DD a K24 Teg(with A/C and P/S) over a k20a2 rsx... So I guess it all comes down to what you want, and what you're willing to pay for, and if it makes sense financially.


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    Quote Originally Posted by *EFilliated* View Post
    Lol@ ur Sig, I don't think ur ready to come back. And to the post I say Hseries
    lololol thats cute however if you have the money to play get a K if not stick with an H
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    Quote Originally Posted by AV8ter View Post
    Really depends on how much hp you're looking for. 200hp NA? Just stay B-series. I always start dreaming of a k24 frank in my integra but it would honestly be cheaper for me to just go buy a car with a K in it(TSX, Accord, RSX, Ep3 newer SI coupes and sedans). I guess if you're will to ditch all the creature comforts(A/C, P/S) while swapping to a K then it wouldn't be overly expensive assuming you got a good deal on a engine, tranny, and K-Pro. All the little swap parts really start to add the fuck up though...

    All depends on your goals... Truth be told I'd rather DD a K24 Teg(with A/C and P/S) over a k20a2 rsx... So I guess it all comes down to what you want, and what you're willing to pay for, and if it makes sense financially.
    P/S and A/C went out the door long ago my friend.

    And the H series will cost about the same price and the K series will respond to mods much better if I am not mistaken....

    I have a B16 block that I can build right now but I don't really want to just swap a Si motor into my civic. A GSR I wouldn't mind since they make more power. I plan on building it right the first time I just cant decide what I want and what people wouldn't expect out of my car when they look at it. I want to hurt peoples feelings when they try me or at least make a damn good impression.

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    H(H2B) is FAR cheaper than K(1/2-1/4 the price in my opinion depending on what you already have). If you don't mind propping your hood, go for it! Cheap to tune, no need for $1000 K-pro, expensive engines or trannies, or expensive swap parts to do a H2b.


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    i have an ek coupe. ARP'd d series right now. What am I lookingg at as far as price wise for the two??

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    I was thinking of doing the same thing. K or H2B for me though. K is much more expensive as far as I've seen and the H2B runs right there with them. For the money H2B all day but for the real power, look and status K. IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by DustnU View Post
    I was thinking of doing the same thing. K or H2B for me though. K is much more expensive as far as I've seen and the H2B runs right there with them. For the money H2B all day but for the real power, look and status K. IMO

    Oh yeah if you wanna sell the "D" let me know!
    Will do bro. I have thought about jsut turboing my D, but I just had it rebuilt not long ago because my motor started knocking. So its a y7 bottom with a y8 head. I really like the way a K series sits in the bay and all too. And the K comes 6 speed if I'm not mistaken. I really want something that noone else around my town has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AV8ter View Post
    Really depends on how much hp you're looking for. 200hp NA? Just stay B-series. I always start dreaming of a k24 frank in my integra but it would honestly be cheaper for me to just go buy a car with a K in it(TSX, Accord, RSX, Ep3 newer SI coupes and sedans). I guess if you're will to ditch all the creature comforts(A/C, P/S) while swapping to a K then it wouldn't be overly expensive assuming you got a good deal on a engine, tranny, and K-Pro. All the little swap parts really start to add the fuck up though...

    All depends on your goals... Truth be told I'd rather DD a K24 Teg(with A/C and P/S) over a k20a2 rsx... So I guess it all comes down to what you want, and what you're willing to pay for, and if it makes sense financially.
    IF u want just 200whp do B series like stated above. If u want 250whp do H2B IF u want 260+whp go K.....simple. And NO NO NO NO NO K series is NOT expensive like that anymore! That was so 6+ years ago. I CANT wait for time to hurry up more where all the B series guys will have NO CHOICE but to upgrade to a K, BUT by then something else would take K series spot. LOL! So i guess those group of peoples will always be behind the curve and will always hide behind the price of the lastest swap!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AV8ter View Post
    H(H2B) is FAR cheaper than K(1/2-1/4 the price in my opinion depending on what you already have). If you don't mind propping your hood, go for it! Cheap to tune, no need for $1000 K-pro, expensive engines or trannies, or expensive swap parts to do a H2b.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NVEOUS View Post
    Will do bro. I have thought about jsut turboing my D, but I just had it rebuilt not long ago because my motor started knocking. So its a y7 bottom with a y8 head. I really like the way a K series sits in the bay and all too. And the K comes 6 speed if I'm not mistaken. I really want something that noone else around my town has.
    I had a 300whp turbo D, It was fun but i would've got waxed by a 215whp K or H2B. And ur k tranny can be 5 or 6 speed. If u dont mind me asking, whats ur budget? That right there will tell u which direction ur going in.
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    Oh and if u want to go H2b, get with H22jones. Him and his dad are fucking H-series MASTERS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 112480 View Post
    IF u want just 200whp do B series like stated above. If u want 250whp do H2B IF u want 260+whp go K.....simple. And NO NO NO NO NO K series is NOT expensive like that anymore! That was so 6+ years ago. I CANT wait for time to hurry up more where all the B series guys will have NO CHOICE but to upgrade to a K, BUT by then something else would take K series spot. LOL! So i guess those group of peoples will always be behind the curve and will always hide behind the price of the lastest swap!

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    Joined up last night actually and did a fair amount of reading. I beleive I am leaning towards the K. I was suprised to see that you can get a motor thats good for about the same price as a GSR complete motor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 112480 View Post
    I had a 300whp turbo D, It was fun but i would've got waxed by a 215whp K or H2B. And ur k tranny can be 5 or 6 speed. If u dont mind me asking, whats ur budget? That right there will tell u which direction ur going in.
    I don't really have a budget. Ill be doing this swap over the next year or so. I'm the type of person that saves up and buys parts and will install all of them at once so you never know what was coming.

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    Oh and if I'm going to do something, I always do it right the first time. I have learned that you get what you pay for and if you do it cheap the first time its going to break and you're going to have to redo it again. So go big or go home I say.....

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    i would go k, fuck h2b
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    depends on budget and goal...if you just want a good swap...k all the way....

    If you want to build a powerful turbo car..no sense in spending the extra cash really...unless you are obsessed with being trendy...power is power, no matter which platform you choose.

    If you want to build a power all motor car, K is the only WAY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannysun View Post
    i would go k, fuck h2b
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    A friend and I put a K20a2 in his EG in November '06. After 4 years of being a DD, all he's had to replace was the thermostat and the stock EG radiator that started to leak. So the motor has been solid. The car made 218whp right after the swap with bolt ons and a base map in Kpro. After mixing in a few good aftermarket parts, a few good OEM parts, and doing lots of tuning, it made 240whp. It has also had a dozen or more nitrous bottles run through it. You can check it out on my youtube page. This car has been an awesome project since day 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NVEOUS View Post
    Joined up last night actually and did a fair amount of reading. I beleive I am leaning towards the K. I was suprised to see that you can get a motor thats good for about the same price as a GSR complete motor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NVEOUS View Post
    I don't really have a budget. Ill be doing this swap over the next year or so. I'm the type of person that saves up and buys parts and will install all of them at once so you never know what was coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NVEOUS View Post
    Oh and if I'm going to do something, I always do it right the first time. I have learned that you get what you pay for and if you do it cheap the first time its going to break and you're going to have to redo it again. So go big or go home I say.....
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    stock K20 with a $500 nitrous kit

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    H22 . People are pulling the same if not better numbers out of the h than the k for cheaper.

    just makes sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaseamundo View Post
    H22 . People are pulling the same if not better numbers out of the h than the k for cheaper.

    just makes sense to me.
    hell no k swap make more power, better head, tsx 2.4 with kpro put down 230
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    everyone is on the k bandwagon. its a sick motor and all but why spend extra $$$ if you dont have to. just my .02

    especially when you can pull equally if not better numbers out of the H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dannysun View Post
    hell no k swap make more power, better head, tsx 2.4 with kpro put down 230
    of course it does, .2 bigger displacement and longer stroke

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    Personally I want a bolt on k20a2 in my daily. good power and stock honda reliability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starrfire View Post
    Personally I want a bolt on k20a2 in my daily. good power and stock honda reliability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaseamundo View Post
    H22 . People are pulling the same if not better numbers out of the h than the k for cheaper.

    just makes sense to me.

    i know this as well, but i rather the K just for the transmission. again, 6 gears ownz

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    yea 6 gears is pretty sweet. if thats what your looking for then b isnt a question anymore.

    you just answered your own question .

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaseamundo View Post
    everyone is on the k bandwagon. its a sick motor and all but why spend extra $$$ if you dont have to. just my .02

    especially when you can pull equally if not better numbers out of the H.
    First let me just say that I am not on any type of band-wagon.... I do me and only me. I don't care what the "trend" is. If i like it then I like it.

    I have hearrd of the K and just recently started thinking about the swap. Then decided I would research it a little more last night and ask what others views were. I know both engines (K and H) have their advantages/ disadvantages. I am leaning towards the K because of how different it is and the status you get when people hear you have a K swapped car. Almost everyone has a B16, GSR, LS-V, Ls turbo etc... I want to be somewhat different from others.

    Yes I know it has already been done for years now, but something that is going to have to be faced is that the B series is not in production anymore. The more kids that do the B swap and blow it up are making the B series blocks dissappear faster and faster. K series is what replaced the B series and is still in production by huge numbers. Eventually The B will become even more expensive and the K will become cheaper over time.

    So how many haters are we talkin if I go K series?? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by NVEOUS View Post
    Yes I know it has already been done for years now, but something that is going to have to be faced is that the B series is not in production anymore. The more kids that do the B swap and blow it up are making the B series blocks dissappear faster and faster. K series is what replaced the B series and is still in production by huge numbers. Eventually The B will become even more expensive and the K will become cheaper over time.

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    this thread is pointless, looking at ur quote "so how many haters are we talking if I go kseries lol" u must enjoy people bitching back an fourth on what they think is best blah blah blah, please do us all a favor and ask legitimate questions instead of peoples opinions. Thanx

    Quote Originally Posted by NVEOUS View Post
    First let me just say that I am not on any type of band-wagon.... I do me and only me. I don't care what the "trend" is. If i like it then I like it.

    I have hearrd of the K and just recently started thinking about the swap. Then decided I would research it a little more last night and ask what others views were. I know both engines (K and H) have their advantages/ disadvantages. I am leaning towards the K because of how different it is and the status you get when people hear you have a K swapped car. Almost everyone has a B16, GSR, LS-V, Ls turbo etc... I want to be somewhat different from others.

    Yes I know it has already been done for years now, but something that is going to have to be faced is that the B series is not in production anymore. The more kids that do the B swap and blow it up are making the B series blocks dissappear faster and faster. K series is what replaced the B series and is still in production by huge numbers. Eventually The B will become even more expensive and the K will become cheaper over time.

    So how many haters are we talkin if I go K series?? lol
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