ive had my first honda goin on a year. And i do agree with cheap mufflers, <fart cans>.. I first had a egay muffler, straight weld on of course. RICER ASS PISSED OFF BUMBLE BEE. is what it sounded like. i have a flowmaster muffler with a custom 2.5 from headers back. i might add angled is also very bad ass. Teggy just to low, in my town, to angle it.