The post about the f20b motor from honda is correct i have owned 3 that is a bad ass motor especialy for the money. for 1600 you get a t2t4 lsd trany which i am running in my hatch right now very nice trany. Also you get full type s head i mean valve train ,cams hole nine yards. The block is iron sleeves the rods are big as crap i mean this is a bad ass little motor . Ive put two in none gutted 2500 pound hatches and run 13.5 both times bone stock all day for years. I have also reeved one of these motors to 9500 dailey bone stock for 5 years and can prove ask anyone from macon lol . Truely a great honda motor for the money. Although the down side that most people dont realize about h22 and f20b the automatic motor suck. The auto f20b dont come with the type s head or the the 11.1 compression or the 66mm throttle body. If you dont order a h22 ,h23,or f20b with a five speed trany you are losing 20hp to start off with so for all these people that wondered why your h22 wasnt as fast as your friend now ya no.