Nobody said anything about giving any credit to anybody in this thread and you didnt build the motor so what is your argument again. I did not try to build the badess all motor honda on the planet this is not even a race car . The point im arguing has nothing to do with what your saying but i guess your not intelligent enough to see that . Im talking about practical motors that anybody can build that are cheap and still get good gas mileage which is what vtec is made for. No need to argue the point that he made power out of a nonvtec motor hell vtec does nothing but get you gas mileage if i didnt care about my gas mileage id probably build a non vtec motor myself theyare easier to come by .You can put big ass cams in any motor not just vtec ones .