this is true, im aware that there are many factors that contribute to winning/losing runs, but i didnt make this thread for the discussion of what makes a fast(er) car, i made it for the purpose of what does it take to achieve the goal of no less than 200whp NA, on either a 1.8L or a 2.0L (or 2.2Llol), and with a redline of 8,000rpms or less just for reliability's sake.