Im just pointing out.......over the many moons of my racing/instructing career, I have yet to see a total failure of ANY bolt in cage like that. I put my ITS GTI on the roof a few times (over and over) and didnt even crask the paint in the pan, and drove it home.
I think this Mustang Scenario is the exception, not the rule.
NOTE: the tactical driving classes I taught were gutted vics and caprices, bolt in cages, high speed pit and tactical driving manuvers. Well into the triple digits.
That's exactly what it is. Those plates appear to be like 4" x 4" lol! I want to see close ups of it and how it punched through. There is nothing wrong with properly mounted bolt in cages and in this case I don't think a weld-in mounted in the same spot would have mattered...still would have punched through.Originally Posted by tnomud
Even gutted they aren't light either...so they tumble HARD lol!
Oh I know, I watched a guy toss a Vic on the roof hard and get tagged by another Vic. The Vic on the roof didin't budge much.
I am not dogging weld in cages, I have had plenty of them over the years. I have also had plenty of bolt in's too, and had personal luck with those.....not by choice.
For a 50/50 car, I prefer bolt-in's. It's a royal PITA to pound out a panel, or do any work inside the car if you have a weld-in. That's just my .02.
I am pretty realistic. WHen you numbers up, your numbers up. I race bikes at high speeds, I'd be a fool to complain about anything not being safe.
Racing bikes at high speeds is safer then cars, even pro superbike racers agree with that.Oh I know, I watched a guy toss a Vic on the roof hard and get tagged by another Vic. The Vic on the roof didin't budge much.
I am not dogging weld in cages, I have had plenty of them over the years. I have also had plenty of bolt in's too, and had personal luck with those.....not by choice.
For a 50/50 car, I prefer bolt-in's. It's a royal PITA to pound out a panel, or do any work inside the car if you have a weld-in. That's just my .02.
I am pretty realistic. WHen you numbers up, your numbers up. I race bikes at high speeds, I'd be a fool to complain about anything not being safe.
I have been to a few funerals that would contradict that. I have a couple $400K+ hospital stays to back that up too?Racing bikes at high speeds is safer then cars, even pro superbike racers agree with that.
TO be honest, I got injured WAY more racing motocross and supermoto, than literbikes. But, when you wreck sportbikes, it minor or huge.....usually no in-between.
Put the crack pipe down. There is NOBODY in this world that can back up that claim with facts lol! A bike is never safer than a legal race car...at any speed.Racing bikes at high speeds is safer then cars, even pro superbike racers agree with that.
All the AMA riders I talk to and other riders such as WERA and such swear they will never get in a race car. I use to think the AMA guys were crazy but they're really not.
Talk to the AMA/WERA riders that used to race cars, or the ones that switched from bikes to cars...they will tell you.
Just as an example, the last time I can think of someone that died in a car at Road Atlanta was Bob Akin at the 2002 Mitty in a 1988 Nissan GTP ZX-Turbo. Since then there's been several cart and motorcycle deaths, including one decapitation.
To put it into perspective, 227 motorcycle riders have died at the Isle of Man since 1907 yet only 48 have died on the Nürburgring and the most deadly track is Indianapolis with 56. Hell, add up all the automobile deaths of the top 5 most deadly tracks: Indianapolis, Nurburgring, Monza, Daytona, & Le Mans equals 182 which is still 20% less than just the Isle of Man alone...
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