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    Quote Originally Posted by HypnoToad View Post
    they come along way,and thier line ups are starting to make a impact.
    Hyundai and Kia are the brands to watch for the next 5 years.

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    The younger generation is what drives America and this world, if auto manufacturers don't make cars appealing to them then they will eventually fail.

    From the CRX days to now the CRZ it's being a big difference and Honda's cars are getting bigger and bigger which is a major down fall especially in the European Market.

    I remember when Honda first introduced the MacPherson struts instead of the double wish-bone suspension on the 7th gen vehicles which IMO was a downgrade and it's being argued. Double-wish bone suspension is a good suspension, improve it not degrade it.

    When that happened I thought Honda hired someone that used to work for the American auto makers.....seriously because it suck.

    I am and will always be a Honda fan but it's from 1988 to 2000 for Civics.
    EK needs a new tune? baby needs more boost so a good tuner is needed....anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wwli View Post
    From the CRX days to now the CRZ it's being a big difference and Honda's cars are getting bigger and bigger which is a major down fall especially in the European Market.
    if you haven't noticed, every vehicle is getting bigger, you can thank crash safety ratings for that one. While a company has the freedom to design and produce a car that looks like anything they want (for the most part.) They DO have to fall within the guidelines of whatever countries they want to sell the car in. Here in the States it is the NHSTA.

    Quote Originally Posted by wwli View Post
    I remember when Honda first introduced the MacPherson struts instead of the double wish-bone suspension on the 7th gen vehicles which IMO was a downgrade and it's being argued. Double-wish bone suspension is a good suspension, improve it not degrade it.
    They reintroduced the MacPherson struts in order to keep production costs down. If i recall correctly, the old CVCC had MacPherson struts up front. They introduced them for the first time in 84 with the 3rd gens. QD can confirm that, hopefully.

    I too do not like where Honda and Acura are headed with their lineups. But perhaps the thing i'm the least comfortable with, is how autos these days are not a "drivers vehicle" like they used to be. The Fit still maintains that image in my opinion; which may be part of the reason it is wildly popular. Whatever happened to "bare bones" vehicles?

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