Nice thread. I do understand the frustrations with the Si, especially with it's lack of thrill compared to other performance cars in its class, but as previously stated, they aren't made to be fast and cool, but rather economical and affordable. To me, it seems, just lately that they have started to put a strong effort to make the cars more esthetically sleek and along with their flagship reliability and affordability. I love Honda just as much as anyone, believe me, but wanting something that isn't gunna happen is only gunna suck more.