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    I voted poser simply for the fact that the G35 Chassis in itself is a poser for being badged as the Skyline in Japan. It was built on the Z chassis, not the beloved R chassis that we all know and love.

    But with that said, I really like G35's and plan on getting one as a daily real soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R32Dragon
    I voted poser simply for the fact that the G35 Chassis in itself is a poser for being badged as the Skyline in Japan. It was built on the Z chassis, not the beloved R chassis that we all know and love.

    But with that said, I really like G35's and plan on getting one as a daily real soon.
    To be consistent, this means that cars built before the R31 aren't skylines either? Funny, I distinctly remember...the first GT-R wasn't even on an R-chassis. In fact it was the PGC-10, as a sedan. The first GT-R wasn't even the long-bodied coupe that everyone is stuck on seeing. The KPGC-10 GT-R Hardtop Coupe came second.

    Funny, how moving from the KPGC-10 to the R34 is seen as linear advancement, and for some reason moving to a more modern and arguably more nimble chassis design with the Advanced Front Midship program somehow makes it a step backwards. Oh, and technically the AFM program was not intended for the 350Z, as the concept at the time of the AFM can show you, (See the 240Z concept car). The 350Z and Skyline 350GT Coupe were designed side-by-side more than anything else.

    The G35 is just as much a skyline as the 350Z is a Fairlady. Nissan LONG AGO decided that americans did not like "Feminine names" for their car models. Examples: Silvia (200sx/240sx) Lucino (200sx, Sentra, SE-R) Bluebird (Sentra, SE-R), Skyline (G35), Leopard (M30) Fairlady (1600/2000 Roadster, 240/260/280Z,280ZX, 300ZX, 350Z). Those names as well as the names that Nissan thought sounded "Too Japanese" or "Too Controversial" (Fuga, President, Primera, others) All got changed for marketing reasons only, some of them received different engines for America because of emissions rules, but that wasn't why the name got changed. Toyota has done the same thing with Crown, Celsior, Aristo, Altezza, others.

    The point is, what's in a name? It's all in what you want to call it. The only people who're fooled into thinking that a name means much when it comes to cars is exactly the people that the Infiniti/Lexus/Acura brands are shooting at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser
    To be consistent, this means that cars built before the R31 aren't skylines either? Funny, I distinctly remember...the first GT-R wasn't even on an R-chassis. In fact it was the PGC-10, as a sedan. The first GT-R wasn't even the long-bodied coupe that everyone is stuck on seeing. The KPGC-10 GT-R Hardtop Coupe came second.

    Funny, how moving from the KPGC-10 to the R34 is seen as linear advancement, and for some reason moving to a more modern and arguably more nimble chassis design with the Advanced Front Midship program somehow makes it a step backwards. Oh, and technically the AFM program was not intended for the 350Z, as the concept at the time of the AFM can show you, (See the 240Z concept car). The 350Z and Skyline 350GT Coupe were designed side-by-side more than anything else.

    The G35 is just as much a skyline as the 350Z is a Fairlady. Nissan LONG AGO decided that americans did not like "Feminine names" for their car models. Examples: Silvia (200sx/240sx) Lucino (200sx, Sentra, SE-R) Bluebird (Sentra, SE-R), Skyline (G35), Leopard (M30) Fairlady (1600/2000 Roadster, 240/260/280Z,280ZX, 300ZX, 350Z). Those names as well as the names that Nissan thought sounded "Too Japanese" or "Too Controversial" (Fuga, President, Primera, others) All got changed for marketing reasons only, some of them received different engines for America because of emissions rules, but that wasn't why the name got changed. Toyota has done the same thing with Crown, Celsior, Aristo, Altezza, others.

    The point is, what's in a name? It's all in what you want to call it. The only people who're fooled into thinking that a name means much when it comes to cars is exactly the people that the Infiniti/Lexus/Acura brands are shooting at.
    Thats a lot of info right there - thanks!

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    i just bought SRT badges ......1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser
    To be consistent, this means that cars built before the R31 aren't skylines either? Funny, I distinctly remember...the first GT-R wasn't even on an R-chassis. In fact it was the PGC-10, as a sedan. The first GT-R wasn't even the long-bodied coupe that everyone is stuck on seeing. The KPGC-10 GT-R Hardtop Coupe came second.

    Funny, how moving from the KPGC-10 to the R34 is seen as linear advancement, and for some reason moving to a more modern and arguably more nimble chassis design with the Advanced Front Midship program somehow makes it a step backwards. Oh, and technically the AFM program was not intended for the 350Z, as the concept at the time of the AFM can show you, (See the 240Z concept car). The 350Z and Skyline 350GT Coupe were designed side-by-side more than anything else.

    The G35 is just as much a skyline as the 350Z is a Fairlady. Nissan LONG AGO decided that americans did not like "Feminine names" for their car models. Examples: Silvia (200sx/240sx) Lucino (200sx, Sentra, SE-R) Bluebird (Sentra, SE-R), Skyline (G35), Leopard (M30) Fairlady (1600/2000 Roadster, 240/260/280Z,280ZX, 300ZX, 350Z). Those names as well as the names that Nissan thought sounded "Too Japanese" or "Too Controversial" (Fuga, President, Primera, others) All got changed for marketing reasons only, some of them received different engines for America because of emissions rules, but that wasn't why the name got changed. Toyota has done the same thing with Crown, Celsior, Aristo, Altezza, others.

    The point is, what's in a name? It's all in what you want to call it. The only people who're fooled into thinking that a name means much when it comes to cars is exactly the people that the Infiniti/Lexus/Acura brands are shooting at.
    Pretty much summed it up there. I think part of the JDM rebadging thing is for us American import fiends to feel like we're finally getting our hands on the cars that we've drooled over for so long. In the 90's we had started getting the platforms, but not the motors, and now we're starting to get the whole mechanical package, and you could say that it's like converting your car back to it's original name, because on many of the cars today there is no difference anymore. To some twisted people it's ditching the marketing bullshit, and going back to your cars roots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser
    To be consistent, this means that cars built before the R31 aren't skylines either? Funny, I distinctly remember...the first GT-R wasn't even on an R-chassis. In fact it was the PGC-10, as a sedan. The first GT-R wasn't even the long-bodied coupe that everyone is stuck on seeing. The KPGC-10 GT-R Hardtop Coupe came second.

    Funny, how moving from the KPGC-10 to the R34 is seen as linear advancement, and for some reason moving to a more modern and arguably more nimble chassis design with the Advanced Front Midship program somehow makes it a step backwards. Oh, and technically the AFM program was not intended for the 350Z, as the concept at the time of the AFM can show you, (See the 240Z concept car). The 350Z and Skyline 350GT Coupe were designed side-by-side more than anything else.

    The G35 is just as much a skyline as the 350Z is a Fairlady. Nissan LONG AGO decided that americans did not like "Feminine names" for their car models. Examples: Silvia (200sx/240sx) Lucino (200sx, Sentra, SE-R) Bluebird (Sentra, SE-R), Skyline (G35), Leopard (M30) Fairlady (1600/2000 Roadster, 240/260/280Z,280ZX, 300ZX, 350Z). Those names as well as the names that Nissan thought sounded "Too Japanese" or "Too Controversial" (Fuga, President, Primera, others) All got changed for marketing reasons only, some of them received different engines for America because of emissions rules, but that wasn't why the name got changed. Toyota has done the same thing with Crown, Celsior, Aristo, Altezza, others.

    The point is, what's in a name? It's all in what you want to call it. The only people who're fooled into thinking that a name means much when it comes to cars is exactly the people that the Infiniti/Lexus/Acura brands are shooting at.
    Well said. That is how I fell about it also.
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