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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    ^It's the EXACT same as a Skyline except not rhd. It's not like calling a cow a horse it's like calling a Acura a Honda.
    but there is a difference.

    ok lets use a better example, a mule, its part horse and part donkey, but its called a mule.

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    The difference being what side the steering wheel is on? In that case a Japanese Civic should not be called a Civic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by simontibbett
    The difference being what side the steering wheel is on? In that case a Japanese Civic should not be called a Civic...
    no the manufacturer titles the car as they want it to be titled and thats what it is.

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    ...so? lol. a G35 and a Skyline is the same CAR, just different badging for different markets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
    With a lack of another option in the poll, I guess it would be a poser. You bought your car as an Infiniti G35. You placed Skyline Badges on your car to give the impression that it's a Skyline. It is NOT a Skyline. Therefore, by default, you come out as a poser. It doesn't mean I don't like the car, I just think it's funny when people put badges on their car and tell people that's what they have and call it that. Acura folks do that. Place H emblems on their car and call them Honda Integras. Later, QD.
    Well, it is just marketing for nissan to set the V35 skyline to be a infiniti G35 to make people feel it is a more luxury car. It is like you whether tell people you drive a toyota or lexus, same with infiniti and nissan, and honda and acura.
    The car's chassis code is V35, which is the nissan skyline in Japan, or Infiniti in North America. There is nothing wrong if the people put the parts from the same car from the other side of the world into their car, since they are technically the same car. The name of the car on the title doesn't mean anything, it is just how the dmv wants call or identify the car. If you want to check out the integra, it does use the name of Honda on various parts of the car, so nothing wrong with the H emblem on integra.
    About the tag, the 350 tt doesn't fit, unless it is twin turbo setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdhtang
    About the tag, the 350 tt doesn't fit, unless it is twin turbo setup.
    Yes, it was.

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    If your car is not RHD, than its not jdm.

    Although, people still go for the JDM "look", including me, simply because it looks better and its makes the car different to a certain extent.

    Soooo, in the long run, its a poser, but its still has the JDM look.

    Flame suit on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Simpson
    its makes the car different to a certain extent.

    Flame suit on.

    YEA UR GONA NEED TO PUT ON TWO FLAME SUITS, CUZ 'DIFFERENT' AND JDM IS ALMOST NO SUCH THING, ESPECIALLY IN THE HONDA WORLD



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    Quote Originally Posted by Sammich
    YEA UR GONA NEED TO PUT ON TWO FLAME SUITS, CUZ 'DIFFERENT' AND JDM IS ALMOST NO SUCH THING, ESPECIALLY IN THE HONDA WORLD
    i understand! It is very cliche nowadays and anybody with a ebay lip with painted hubcaps are "JDM."

    But, c'mon dude, there are people that do it right.

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    a name is a name...what really matters is the car itself......


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    I look to look at it as the owner returning the car to its roots, so to speak.
    The car is a Nissan rebadged as an Infiniti. It was built side by side I'm sure, with its bretheren, and shipped over here to be sold to dumbass, impressionable ppl that want the "distinction" of driving a "luxury" automobile.

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    replace a acura badge with a honda,all it does is lower the value of the car.....same as making a lexus into a toyota etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser
    To be consistent, this means that cars built before the R31 aren't skylines either? Funny, I distinctly remember...the first GT-R wasn't even on an R-chassis. In fact it was the PGC-10, as a sedan. The first GT-R wasn't even the long-bodied coupe that everyone is stuck on seeing. The KPGC-10 GT-R Hardtop Coupe came second.

    Funny, how moving from the KPGC-10 to the R34 is seen as linear advancement, and for some reason moving to a more modern and arguably more nimble chassis design with the Advanced Front Midship program somehow makes it a step backwards. Oh, and technically the AFM program was not intended for the 350Z, as the concept at the time of the AFM can show you, (See the 240Z concept car). The 350Z and Skyline 350GT Coupe were designed side-by-side more than anything else.

    The G35 is just as much a skyline as the 350Z is a Fairlady. Nissan LONG AGO decided that americans did not like "Feminine names" for their car models. Examples: Silvia (200sx/240sx) Lucino (200sx, Sentra, SE-R) Bluebird (Sentra, SE-R), Skyline (G35), Leopard (M30) Fairlady (1600/2000 Roadster, 240/260/280Z,280ZX, 300ZX, 350Z). Those names as well as the names that Nissan thought sounded "Too Japanese" or "Too Controversial" (Fuga, President, Primera, others) All got changed for marketing reasons only, some of them received different engines for America because of emissions rules, but that wasn't why the name got changed. Toyota has done the same thing with Crown, Celsior, Aristo, Altezza, others.

    The point is, what's in a name? It's all in what you want to call it. The only people who're fooled into thinking that a name means much when it comes to cars is exactly the people that the Infiniti/Lexus/Acura brands are shooting at.
    Pretty much summed it up there. I think part of the JDM rebadging thing is for us American import fiends to feel like we're finally getting our hands on the cars that we've drooled over for so long. In the 90's we had started getting the platforms, but not the motors, and now we're starting to get the whole mechanical package, and you could say that it's like converting your car back to it's original name, because on many of the cars today there is no difference anymore. To some twisted people it's ditching the marketing bullshit, and going back to your cars roots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser
    To be consistent, this means that cars built before the R31 aren't skylines either? Funny, I distinctly remember...the first GT-R wasn't even on an R-chassis. In fact it was the PGC-10, as a sedan. The first GT-R wasn't even the long-bodied coupe that everyone is stuck on seeing. The KPGC-10 GT-R Hardtop Coupe came second.

    Funny, how moving from the KPGC-10 to the R34 is seen as linear advancement, and for some reason moving to a more modern and arguably more nimble chassis design with the Advanced Front Midship program somehow makes it a step backwards. Oh, and technically the AFM program was not intended for the 350Z, as the concept at the time of the AFM can show you, (See the 240Z concept car). The 350Z and Skyline 350GT Coupe were designed side-by-side more than anything else.

    The G35 is just as much a skyline as the 350Z is a Fairlady. Nissan LONG AGO decided that americans did not like "Feminine names" for their car models. Examples: Silvia (200sx/240sx) Lucino (200sx, Sentra, SE-R) Bluebird (Sentra, SE-R), Skyline (G35), Leopard (M30) Fairlady (1600/2000 Roadster, 240/260/280Z,280ZX, 300ZX, 350Z). Those names as well as the names that Nissan thought sounded "Too Japanese" or "Too Controversial" (Fuga, President, Primera, others) All got changed for marketing reasons only, some of them received different engines for America because of emissions rules, but that wasn't why the name got changed. Toyota has done the same thing with Crown, Celsior, Aristo, Altezza, others.

    The point is, what's in a name? It's all in what you want to call it. The only people who're fooled into thinking that a name means much when it comes to cars is exactly the people that the Infiniti/Lexus/Acura brands are shooting at.
    Well said. That is how I fell about it also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homer Simpson
    i understand! It is very cliche nowadays and anybody with a ebay lip with painted hubcaps are "JDM."

    But, c'mon dude, there are people that do it right.
    i'm not saying there arent pple that do it right, cuz ive seen multitudes of those who do it right, but to be different??!?!? its hard to do nowadays



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    Quote Originally Posted by quickdodgeŽ
    With a lack of another option in the poll, I guess it would be a poser. You bought your car as an Infiniti G35. You placed Skyline Badges on your car to give the impression that it's a Skyline. It is NOT a Skyline. Therefore, by default, you come out as a poser. It doesn't mean I don't like the car, I just think it's funny when people put badges on their car and tell people that's what they have and call it that. Acura folks do that. Place H emblems on their car and call them Honda Integras. Later, QD.

    mine came with an H so I guess I am a poser

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    i have a H on my rsx..but not integra lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrumracer
    but there is a difference.

    ok lets use a better example, a mule, its part horse and part donkey, but its called a mule.
    no no no, its like in europe they call it football, but we call it soccer, same thing but different name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VQ35 Star
    no no no, its like in europe they call it football, but we call it soccer, same thing but different name.
    Actually, this is one of the most logical and emotionless posts so far.

    He is dead on too.

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    So a JDM Civic isnt the same as an american civic? WTF

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    The car is a Skyline, just brought here and rebadged as a G35. This continues with the new G37, which is still a Nissan Skyline. One of Infiniti's struggles is it continues to not seperate itself from NIssan.






    The G35 interior was bashed pretty hard for being "a Nissan". If you look, you will notice the seat controls were basically under your butt on the inside (not the outside like all other cars) and the center console's knob buttons were on the right side of the dash, instead of the left side. This was obvious cost-cutting to bring the Skyline here as a G35.


    Personally I much PREFER the car called what it is, Nissan Skyline. I love the name and heritage. The name Infiniti G35 really does nothing for me.

    So to me, once he completes anything else that can be converted, yeah its JDM!!!
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    i say poser only b/c a true skyline, price wize, would cost a tad bit more strait from across the water. she still sexier den a muffukka though, no doubt.

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    Actually you're way off base about that. If you factor OUT all the import costs involved in bringing a JDM car over (Which are just about the same if you wanna bring a Nissan Cube over too) and keep it to just base prices, the Skyline is LESS expensive comparatively to it's Infiniti up-market brother. Lexus has done the same thing with the Toyota Avalon and the Lexus ES330. They fit the same bill, can come equipped with the same features, have the same engine and drivetrain, have similar wheelbases, are built on a shared modular frame, and are BOTH available in America. The Avalon costs less than the Lexus ES. Why? You're buying a Lexus bro.

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    good to kno info. preshate it pimpn. that being said, my vote is neutral.

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    i think this is relevant. i stole it from wikipedia.


    in June 2001, was based on Nissan's FM platform, shared with the Nissan 350Z. The Nissan Skyline used a front-midship engine (VQ35DE), rear-wheel drive layout[18] (all-wheel drive was available for the sedan) to achieve a 52%/48% weight distribution. The V35 was the first Skyline made for export to the United States. There it was sold under the company's luxury brand, Infiniti as the Infiniti G35.

    The V35 was a major turning point for the Skyline. There was no straight 6, no turbo, and no GT-R. Nissan put a slightly more powerful VQ35DE in the 350Z, and although the Skyline and the 350Z shared the same platform, the 350Z had additional bracing, underbody aero parts, and weighed 100 kg less.[19] Japanese tuners mostly ignored the V35 Skyline, the 2006 Tsukuba Super Lap Battle had not a single V35 entrant.[20] Tuners such as Mines, Amuse, Hosaka, Garage Defend, M Speed, Nagisa, MCR, HKS, & Top Secret continued developing R32-R34 GT-Rs. Top Secret did tune a V35, but they replaced the VQ35DE with a VK45DE V8 Twin Turbo.[21] Signal USA entered a V35 in Formula D, replacing the VQ35DE with an SR20DET.[22]

    im not going to put a silvia badge on the 240 b/c it doesnt have a sr20det in it. but if it did and was rhd. id slap a badge on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonathanjone
    im not going to put a silvia badge on the 240 b/c it doesnt have a sr20det in it. but if it did and was rhd. id slap a badge on it.
    But the only difference between a V35 Skyline and G35 Coupe is driver side.

    Why wouldn't you change the badge if that was the only difference on your 240sx?

    I mean hell...there's not even an interior difference!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser
    But the only difference between a V35 Skyline and G35 Coupe is driver side.

    Why wouldn't you change the badge if that was the only difference on your 240sx?

    I mean hell...there's not even an interior difference!
    There are LHD Skylines (Europe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser
    But the only difference between a V35 Skyline and G35 Coupe is driver side.

    Why wouldn't you change the badge if that was the only difference on your 240sx?

    I mean hell...there's not even an interior difference!
    for fear of being called a poser lol

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    I think its stupid. We're in America. Not Japan.

    It's a G35. Not a Skyline.

    That's like taking your Ford Taurus & putting Mercury Sable badges on it. Come on now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by toxxxic
    I think its stupid. We're in America. Not Japan.

    It's a G35. Not a Skyline.

    That's like taking your Ford Taurus & putting Mercury Sable badges on it. Come on now.
    So if i were to fly a G35 over to Japan i'd have to re badge it?

    I dont know where you people are getting your info but its time to switch.

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    Same car.... all about marketing.

    Nope.. not a poser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    There are LHD Skylines (Europe)
    Correct, in fact I already mentioned that. I suppose I could have been more clear in stating: The only difference between a G35 and a "JDM" V35 Skyline would be RHD v. LHD. Of course if you shipped a G35 over to europe, you could park side by side with an identical V35 Skyline and the argument becomes really pointless.

    My reply is simple: Badge it however you like. It's your car, and on the car we're talking about from the picture, it's not like any of them came STOCK from the factory with a twin turbo setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiser
    Correct, in fact I already mentioned that. I suppose I could have been more clear in stating: The only difference between a G35 and a "JDM" V35 Skyline would be RHD v. LHD. Of course if you shipped a G35 over to europe, you could park side by side with an identical V35 Skyline and the argument becomes really pointless.

    My reply is simple: Badge it however you like. It's your car, and on the car we're talking about from the picture, it's not like any of them came STOCK from the factory with a twin turbo setup.
    Exactly and as I stated, they didn't even try to make it different. The console and seats ARE THE SAME.
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    Just a side story, when I was into that people from Japan would contact me because they wanted to badge their V35 Skyline as an Infiniti G35.

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    honda guys do the same thing and put the "h" on the integra's. so same difference
    G35 coupe slammed on TE's

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    nice

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    man if your fucking vin number doesnt have anything to do with japan itself then your not JDM for shit.. all these new cars are either american made or canadian made.. so i guess just the old skool jap car owners are the real JDMers right?
    Peek-a-boo mofucka what now?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ25RUN
    So if i were to fly a G35 over to Japan i'd have to re badge it?

    I dont know where you people are getting your info but its time to switch.

    no. it would be a G35. because its FROM america. it's left hand drive. therefor it is a G35.


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    Toxxxic: G35's in Continental Europe are Lefthand Drive as well. Does that make them american?

    DriftJunior: G35's are made in Japan. You're quickly turning into more of an ignorant putz than I had first imagined.

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    I think badging a car can be appropriate if done correctly and accurately. It boils down to working within the law and your limits since U.S has these b.s import laws as far a vehicles are concerned. i'm sure if he could have bout the real thing from the dealer instead he might have....but people settle with just labeling them accordingly.

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