so sorry for gt-r owners

[DUBSf22c]

GT-R I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=25361

I was driving my gtr two weeks ago and I heard a loud noise coming from the rear. I turned immediately had my gtr towed to crown nissan st. petersburg fl. They didn't touch my car only called some techs from tennessee to look at the car and record the noise, 4 days later two guys from japan to download some info from the car then left. Then I get a call from the dealer to tell me the news, and they told me that the car was driven without vdc too much and nissan will not warranty the transmission which they said was destroyed, I asked them how much to fix it they told me 20k, no freaking way I will pay 20k on top of what i just paid for the car. I called the gtr number and also talked to nissan consumer affairs got nowhere, now the car is sitting at the dealer. I know we shouldn't launch the car but why own it if you cant use this function, don't sell a car that goes 0-60 in 3.4 sec if the only way you can achieve this speed is to void the warranty , false advertising. Here is the bad news people were fearing it has happened to me and Nissan has told me there are already three people in my shoes, if you are one of these people email me, we have got to get together on this. Just think if any of you guys have taken the vdc off just a few times you have already voided your warranty, good luck what a joke nissan.

[SicStang03]

wow... **** that ****

[TIGERJC]

Pwned

[SouthrnStyle]

Damn that sucks

[OneSlow5pt0]

should have bought a Z06,lol

[Revmaynard]

That's awesome for the fanboys and terrible for the owners. LOL

[uproot]

Nissan put a feature on a car that would void the warranty if used =

[Revmaynard]

LOLOLOL GTR FTL LOLOLOL.

[slostang]

wow

[Atlblkz06]

Hello Magnusson-Moss!
"No aftermarket part or accessory that is properly installed on your vehicle will entirely void your original vehicle "

If it can be proven that VDC off does NOT cause problems he will win

[VooDooXII]

The GTR is so pretentious.

[NewGen33]

I'm slowly losing respect for Nissan

[Atlblkz06]

ROFL... 1 case of out-of-warranty work because of unknown causes involving but not limited to VDC-off driving and you guys hate Nissan?

You dont even know what happened or what the folks found when they probed the car.

[pankopp]

there was a big article in Autoweek a few weeks back that went indepth on all this with the GT-R and saying a lot of other manufactures that are going to start. Apparently Nissan and a few others are installing "black boxes" in all their new cars that have the ability to record just about all functions and variables of the car. I will look for the article.

that blows.

Edit:

"Similar so-called black boxes, or electronic data recorders (EDRs), are now standard equipment in a majority of passenger cars and light-duty trucks sold in the United States."

Found the article, see link. http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...FREE/809189970

[Ran]

"We made a racecar that comes with a warranty but if you race it, then you void the warranty. Ohohohohoho~!" - Nissan

[pankopp]

same thing when the 2002 Subaru WRXs were released... they gave you a free one year SCCA membership with the car purchase, but if you took part in any SCCA events, your warranty would be void.... crazy.

[Atlblkz06]

"We made a racecar that comes with a warranty but if you race it, then you void the warranty. Ohohohohoho~!" - Nissan

Pretty much. However you're in the same situation with pretty much any car. Its true with a Z06 or ZR1 and I bet its the same with a 911 GT3RS, CGT etc as well.

Technically speaking these are street cars!

[imbatman]

i say "boycot" the nissan gtr's and spread the word until nissan people do something about it.

[imbatman]

....and i forgot to mention............F**k all new sports car.

old skool and new skool FTW!!!!

[Ronsam2006]

....and i forgot to mention............F**k all new sports car.

old skool and new skool FTW!!!!

As dumb as that sounds, I'm with you on that one.

[TaKashi]

GTR........<--------POS

[Random Hero]

Damn, what a bummer.

[JITB]

if you take any car to the dealer and they have a way todetect the driving characteristics of the car since you owned it, and it shows im sure any manufacturer woudl void the warranty. its a little extreme in this case, but for a car like the gtr(price wise) nissan doesnt want to have to pay for people going around beating up their cars. If you take the Sti/Evo and do daily hard launches with the launch control..just because it can do it. Doesnt mean it wont hurt the car, most of the complaints about this stuff is coming from the US owners....its really no suprise to me.. i always expect the dealership to try to get out of paying for something like that. If i had a GTR i dont htink i woudl beat on it like that.. unless i had the pocket to fix it.

[DUBSf22c]

ROFL... 1 case of out-of-warranty work because of unknown causes involving but not limited to VDC-off driving and you guys hate Nissan?

You dont even know what happened or what the folks found when they probed the car.

if you read the thread there are others going through this!

[XLR8NMR2]

Shoulda got an mr-2

[RL...]

lol pwned indeed

but this is nissans first year/attempt at this car. Many brand new cars have problems there first year of production...That is stupid though, nissan should have made the trans/differential stronger, or atleast warranty it

[RL...]

GTR........<--------POS

and what do you drive?! It better be something badass enough to put the gt-r to shame with a comment like that...

[alpine_aw11]

bwahahahahahaha

[Ran]

GTR........<--------POS

Nissan's flawed warranty is no direct reflection on the vehicle itself. Even if you don't like the car, it's hardly a POS.

[G.C]

man that sucks. 20,000 to fix it.

[Doppelgänger]

I like how Nissan thinks they created some surperb, super-dooper futuristic supercar.... when in all reality all they did was create a over-priced, over-complicated, over-hyped econobox. Seriously. They clearly made a inferior car to the R32/33/34 and and more people drive the GTR, it will be more obvious.

[JR VQ 30 de]

dude thats really gay so much hype for a car that does 3.4 0-60 but if u do it it only means ur warranty will void. ur better importing a r34 from japan and doing wat ever the fawk u want to it ...

[Bruce Leroy]

If i had a GTR i dont htink i woudl beat on it like that.. unless i had the pocket to fix it.

If i paid 70 grand for a car, I would drive the piss out of it. And if its stock, it better be able to do it over and over again for at least 100k miles. Or i want my $$$ back, so i can get something better.

[JITB]

If i paid 70 grand for a car, I would drive the piss out of it. And if its stock, it better be able to do it over and over again for at least 100k miles. Or i want my $$$ back, so i can get something better.

If i had a GTR i dont htink i woudl beat on it like that.. unless i had the pocket to fix it. I mean you beat on any car no matter how well its made it will wear on it..and take damage. its physics.. its kind of messed up that they went thru all that trouble to find out what happened. But he should have known they could find a way to get his driving habits uploaded. hell i knew they could do that. Truth is, if all cars had the technology to pull up driving habits when they come up for warranty service...50% of warranties wouldnt be honored. And most warranties state "under normal driving conditions". You take a car in for a warranty service with a exhaust on it, and they wont touch it.

[alpine_aw11]

If i had a GTR i dont htink i woudl beat on it like that.. unless i had the pocket to fix it. I mean you beat on any car no matter how well its made it will wear on it..and take damage. its physics.. its kind of messed up that they went thru all that trouble to find out what happened. But he should have known they could find a way to get his driving habits uploaded. hell i knew they could do that. Truth is, if all cars had the technology to pull up driving habits when they come up for warranty service...50% of warranties wouldnt be honored. And most warranties state "under normal driving conditions". You take a car in for a warranty service with a exhaust on it, and they wont touch it.

Look at it from that guy's standpoint though, he payed 70k for a car that already needs a 20k tranny replacement, which in itself is insane. I want to find out the extent of what caused this.

[67MercCougar]

Well in Nissans defense they do tell owners not to and they are also selling you a amazing supercar without the really big supercar price. Plus beat the **** out of anything and it will break I don't car how you build it, look at drag cars repaired after each track day. Im sorry to hear this but I mean that tough luck.

[Elbow]

LOL fail

[OnURleft]

I hate to say this...but if you bought a BMW M car they turn the DSP off for you and let you throw it around and launch it all day on there test track in Spartenburg (sp?). Shame the Japanese best can't hold up

[Kaiser]

Jesus christ. This is akin to someone demanding their tires be replaced under warranty after they do a 10 minute burnout in the parking lot of the dealership. Get real. At least let the engine settle in, rather than constantly using launch control and turning VDC off.

[67MercCougar]

Yeah I know alot of guys with Ferrari's and they break alot and it cost alot to fix them, when you buy a supercar it comes with owning it you guys have no idea what is fully involved with a car like that. I think that yeah maybe Nissan should own up and fix it but why should they when they warn you not to the guy is stupid if you ask me. Even with it turned on its 0-60 is like 4.3 I think, I mean you would have to be racing some amazing cars to need it to do better than that.