so sorry for gt-r owners

[DUBSf22c]

GT-R I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=25361

I was driving my gtr two weeks ago and I heard a loud noise coming from the rear. I turned immediately had my gtr towed to crown nissan st. petersburg fl. They didn't touch my car only called some techs from tennessee to look at the car and record the noise, 4 days later two guys from japan to download some info from the car then left. Then I get a call from the dealer to tell me the news, and they told me that the car was driven without vdc too much and nissan will not warranty the transmission which they said was destroyed, I asked them how much to fix it they told me 20k, no freaking way I will pay 20k on top of what i just paid for the car. I called the gtr number and also talked to nissan consumer affairs got nowhere, now the car is sitting at the dealer. I know we shouldn't launch the car but why own it if you cant use this function, don't sell a car that goes 0-60 in 3.4 sec if the only way you can achieve this speed is to void the warranty , false advertising. Here is the bad news people were fearing it has happened to me and Nissan has told me there are already three people in my shoes, if you are one of these people email me, we have got to get together on this. Just think if any of you guys have taken the vdc off just a few times you have already voided your warranty, good luck what a joke nissan.

[SicStang03]

wow... **** that ****

[TIGERJC]

Pwned

[SouthrnStyle]

Damn that sucks

[OneSlow5pt0]

should have bought a Z06,lol

[Revmaynard]

That's awesome for the fanboys and terrible for the owners. LOL

[uproot]

Nissan put a feature on a car that would void the warranty if used =

[Revmaynard]

LOLOLOL GTR FTL LOLOLOL.

[slostang]

wow

[Atlblkz06]

Hello Magnusson-Moss!
"No aftermarket part or accessory that is properly installed on your vehicle will entirely void your original vehicle "

If it can be proven that VDC off does NOT cause problems he will win

[Glides]

Hello Magnusson-Moss!
"No aftermarket part or accessory that is properly installed on your vehicle will entirely void your original vehicle "

If it can be proven that VDC off does NOT cause problems he will win

Actually, you might want to rethink that. He could very well lose. It is expressly written in teh manufactures warranty booklet that driving with the VDC off will void the warranty. Right there Nissan and it's army of lawyers have the upper hand.

The thing he should do is find the other owners of the vehicles that are also fubared and get with them. Strength in numbers. If enough people ***** and moan, Nissan will just fix them to get them silenced and not go through it. But him alone, he doesn't stand that much of a chance.

Sad day indeed for GTRs

[SRCRX]

Actually, you might want to rethink that. He could very well lose. It is expressly written in teh manufactures warranty booklet that driving with the VDC off will void the warranty. Right there Nissan and it's army of lawyers have the upper hand.

The thing he should do is find the other owners of the vehicles that are also fubared and get with them. Strength in numbers. If enough people ***** and moan, Nissan will just fix them to get them silenced and not go through it. But him alone, he doesn't stand that much of a chance.

Sad day indeed for GTRs

Yep, I'm sure they do have the upper hand, But if it voids the warrty why
can a GTR owner even turn off the VDC, thats the part that makes no
sence (sp) to me??

Any one have a clue on that one??

[XanRules]

Actually, you might want to rethink that. He could very well lose. It is expressly written in teh manufactures warranty booklet that driving with the VDC off will void the warranty. Right there Nissan and it's army of lawyers have the upper hand.

Sad day indeed for GTRs

that entirely depends on the judge, though. It's somewhat hidden. Also, Launch Control was a big selling point of the car, they were whoring it up all over television. But you can't use the launch control without turning the VDC off. Technically still legal, but very sneaky.

Also, judging from the SEVEN spaces to record transmission replacements provided in the OM, it's a safe bet that Nissan KNEW the transmission was the GT-R's Achilles Heel.

A lot of you guys might not understand this. The issue is not whether or not he can afford to fix it or whether or not he was beating the shit out of his car.
The issue is that Nissan put a button on the dashboard of their "supercar" that, if pressed, will void your warranty.

[yungdz]

that entirely depends on the judge, though. It's somewhat hidden. Also, Launch Control was a big selling point of the car, they were whoring it up all over television. But you can't use the launch control without turning the VDC off. Technically still legal, but very sneaky.

Also, judging from the SEVEN spaces to record transmission replacements provided in the OM, it's a safe bet that Nissan KNEW the transmission was the GT-R's Achilles Heel.

A lot of you guys might not understand this. The issue is not whether or not he can afford to fix it or whether or not he was beating the shit out of his car.
The issue is that Nissan put a button on the dashboard of their "supercar" that, if pressed, will void your warranty.

Of course, arguing that he turned it off to use launch control is going to raise red flags with the judge for doing it on the street

[XanRules]

Of course, arguing that he turned it off to use launch control is going to raise red flags with the judge for doing it on the street

yeah, but hopefully the judge won't get that sidetracked

[VooDooXII]

The GTR is so pretentious.

[NewGen33]

I'm slowly losing respect for Nissan

[Atlblkz06]

ROFL... 1 case of out-of-warranty work because of unknown causes involving but not limited to VDC-off driving and you guys hate Nissan?

You dont even know what happened or what the folks found when they probed the car.

[DUBSf22c]

ROFL... 1 case of out-of-warranty work because of unknown causes involving but not limited to VDC-off driving and you guys hate Nissan?

You dont even know what happened or what the folks found when they probed the car.

if you read the thread there are others going through this!

[pankopp]

there was a big article in Autoweek a few weeks back that went indepth on all this with the GT-R and saying a lot of other manufactures that are going to start. Apparently Nissan and a few others are installing "black boxes" in all their new cars that have the ability to record just about all functions and variables of the car. I will look for the article.

that blows.

Edit:

"Similar so-called black boxes, or electronic data recorders (EDRs), are now standard equipment in a majority of passenger cars and light-duty trucks sold in the United States."

Found the article, see link. http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...FREE/809189970

[Ran]

"We made a racecar that comes with a warranty but if you race it, then you void the warranty. Ohohohohoho~!" - Nissan

[Atlblkz06]

"We made a racecar that comes with a warranty but if you race it, then you void the warranty. Ohohohohoho~!" - Nissan

Pretty much. However you're in the same situation with pretty much any car. Its true with a Z06 or ZR1 and I bet its the same with a 911 GT3RS, CGT etc as well.

Technically speaking these are street cars!

[IDCoconut]

Pretty much. However you're in the same situation with pretty much any car. Its true with a Z06 or ZR1 and I bet its the same with a 911 GT3RS, CGT etc as well.

Technically speaking these are street cars!

Yea, but they're damn transmissions don't fucking break after 10 launches......

Face it, Nissan fucked up on the tranny. This isn't the only one.

[seanrg1116]

Yea, but they're damn transmissions don't fucking break after 10 launches......

Face it, Nissan fucked up on the tranny. This isn't the only one.

I read all of this guys post and he beat the SH*T out of that car.

Yea the transmissions are weak "AMUSE" was saying that when they began modding theres, but they have cracked 600hp and are still on the original trans.

I believe the diff is seperating from the trans, or at least thats what the gt-r tech at nissan said

less than 5000 miles on the car and it already broke

[DeutscheBAG!]

lol

[pankopp]

same thing when the 2002 Subaru WRXs were released... they gave you a free one year SCCA membership with the car purchase, but if you took part in any SCCA events, your warranty would be void.... crazy.

[imbatman]

i say "boycot" the nissan gtr's and spread the word until nissan people do something about it.

[imbatman]

....and i forgot to mention............F**k all new sports car.

old skool and new skool FTW!!!!

[Ronsam2006]

....and i forgot to mention............F**k all new sports car.

old skool and new skool FTW!!!!

As dumb as that sounds, I'm with you on that one.

[RL...]

lol pwned indeed

but this is nissans first year/attempt at this car. Many brand new cars have problems there first year of production...That is stupid though, nissan should have made the trans/differential stronger, or atleast warranty it

[CAdamson16]

As dumb as that sounds, I'm with you on that one.

as am i that 100% eats it

[AnthonyF]

the gt-r35 is a piece of sh*t covered in sh*t dipped in sh*t baked in sh*t eaten, the sh*tted out and then thrown up on.

-Ant.

[Atlblkz06]

the gt-r35 is a piece of sh*t covered in sh*t dipped in sh*t baked in sh*t eaten, the sh*tted out and then thrown up on.
-Ant.

Again.. based on 1 car?

And uh, sorry to hear about Leisa.

[AnthonyF]

Again.. based on 1 car?

No, based on all of them. Did you even read the thread were Porsche called nissan's b*tch ass out?

And uh, sorry to hear about Leisa.

Where did that come from? Leisa is Brett's wife.

-Ant.

[TaKashi]

GTR........<--------POS

[RL...]

GTR........<--------POS

and what do you drive?! It better be something badass enough to put the gt-r to shame with a comment like that...

[Ran]

GTR........<--------POS

Nissan's flawed warranty is no direct reflection on the vehicle itself. Even if you don't like the car, it's hardly a POS.

[Random Hero]

Damn, what a bummer.

[JITB]

if you take any car to the dealer and they have a way todetect the driving characteristics of the car since you owned it, and it shows im sure any manufacturer woudl void the warranty. its a little extreme in this case, but for a car like the gtr(price wise) nissan doesnt want to have to pay for people going around beating up their cars. If you take the Sti/Evo and do daily hard launches with the launch control..just because it can do it. Doesnt mean it wont hurt the car, most of the complaints about this stuff is coming from the US owners....its really no suprise to me.. i always expect the dealership to try to get out of paying for something like that. If i had a GTR i dont htink i woudl beat on it like that.. unless i had the pocket to fix it.

[Bruce Leroy]

If i had a GTR i dont htink i woudl beat on it like that.. unless i had the pocket to fix it.

If i paid 70 grand for a car, I would drive the piss out of it. And if its stock, it better be able to do it over and over again for at least 100k miles. Or i want my $$$ back, so i can get something better.