ls/v questions lots!!

[Vteckidd]

Get a girdle alot of people dont get them and thats why they mess up their blocks.A girdle will help you safely rev to about 8k all day with no problems.

no it wont a girdle is worthless unless you have some 10,000 rpm road race motor.

People "mess their blocks up" because STOCK LS rods arent made to see 8200 RPMS. They have weaker an smaller rod bolts and weaker rods. That is what fails

[Vteckidd]

Pretty much everything has been answered in here by Charles.

I wouldnt expect much past 160-165whp with stock cams. youll prob make a good 10-15 ft/lbs over your b16 though which is good.

With ITR Piston you are prob looking at around 11:1 IIRC

http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/c...c/compcalc.php

Id personally use B16 pistons thatll get you to 11.5:1 but ITR is fine.

Id reccommend ARP Rod Bolts, with those you can rev pretty safely to 8200. I wouldnt go much past that though.

GE kit is where it is at, allows a clean hassle free install. Wiring will be the same.

[southside]

no it wont a girdle is worthless unless you have some 10,000 rpm road race motor.

People "mess their blocks up" because STOCK LS rods arent made to see 8200 RPMS. They have weaker an smaller rod bolts and weaker rods. That is what fails

In that case why do gsrs have girdles and what would be the safe max rpm for stock ls rods and bolts.

[Vteckidd]

In that case why do gsrs have girdles and what would be the safe max rpm for stock ls rods and bolts.

the question is why DOESNT the ITR have a girdle?

honda has a tendency to over engineer sometimes, and its been proven on STREET motors the girdle does little to nothing at all for high RPM stability. They only matter when the stroke gets really big like over 90mm. Hence why the F23s (hondas 95mm stroke) had 5 bolt main girdles.

My LSVTEC revved to 9700 all day with no girdle and Don Flores said it didnt need one, im not one to argue with him. However on someone elses 95mm stroker motor he had a custom 5 bolt main girdle put in.

Honda decided to counter balance the ITR crank a different way an opt NOT to use the girdle in the Type-R. The Type-R revs 900 rpms more than the GSR.

But FYI, both GSR and ITR rods are good for 9000rpms stock.

LS rods, 8000rpms MAX