I am convinced on the GT-R

[matthewAPM]

The car isnt even out yet and you're already making excuses. My lack of experience at the track does not discredit official data presented by both manufacturers.. if they're not perfect then don't present it but since they did I will have to assume they were perfect laps.. respectively.

By your logic if the GT-R comes in even a second slower theres an excuse to be found as to why.. I'm sorry I guess mathewAPM has to approve them for them to be official. Don't tell me if the Z06 posted a faster time you wouldn't quote that for the sake of argument.

Just the fact that we are comparing a car that can transport a family of 3 or 4, that I can drive up north to go snowboarding AND still hit the track and be considered a competitor is all the convincing I need. Its a no brainer on my part.

number 1 its not an excuse, its the truth. dont talk until u have experience doing it.

but there not. no one can ever do a perfect lap. not possible at all.

actually no. im not a hardcore chevy fan. im just saying that everyone is hating on the vette because it got beat by 2 seconds. if someone was hating on the skyline i would have said the same thing, im not saying this because i like vettes, im saying this because people think that the 2 seconds were because the car was faster.

its what u like. everyone has a different opinion. and i respect that. but its when people think they know something when they really dont that i argue.

[iloveboost]

I have never heard anyone get called that before.

Heh. Kind of like dyno racers and "when I get these mods on" racers. He is taking things to new heights and racing magazine articles.

Sorry to clutter your thread, Tony. You know I still like ya... even if you will have the slower car, lol. I kid, I kid...

For an all-around car, I will agree the GTR will get the job done.

[Member31410]

This is exactly what I meant. You are an idiot. Stupid. Most of the people that race the car for a magazine cannot drive.

I have a Z06 and you're telling ME that the C6Z06 isn't a 10sec car? AGAIN.... YOU ARE A MAGAZINE RACING, IDIOT RICER.

10.9 is the record for the bone stock C6Z. 10.8 has been acheived with a bone stock C6Z and drag radials. This isn't magazine racing so this is why it might be hard for you to comprehend.

Go back on edmunds and pretend your Eclipse is the pinnacle of automotive performance. Go conjure up more ideas to be original with your tacky time attack style wheels. I'll trust your judgement on what's fast when you don't drive every 15-year-old girl's dream car.

Gotta love the magazine racers.

[tony]

number 1 its not an excuse, its the truth. dont talk until u have experience doing it.

but there not. no one can ever do a perfect lap. not possible at all.

actually no. im not a hardcore chevy fan. im just saying that everyone is hating on the vette because it got beat by 2 seconds. if someone was hating on the skyline i would have said the same thing, im not saying this because i like vettes, im saying this because people think that the 2 seconds were because the car was faster.

its what u like. everyone has a different opinion. and i respect that. but its when people think they know something when they really dont that i argue.

I have zero experience but I am quoting a source that has plenty.. its called second hand experience from a reliable source. What you offer is an assumption since you have driven neither one.

Numbers do not lie. I don't care if the Z06 driver picked his nose during his lap, the GT-R got from point A to point B faster than the Z06. I just explained this to my 6 year old and he nodded his head so surely you can understand what I am explaining here.

As I said, I did not want to like the GT-R. I wanted it to fail miserably so I could feel good about having a better car years ago.. but it hasnt.. whether you like what people are saying or not you have to admit Nissan has shaken up the market.. to the point where we are here bickering over a car we've yet to even see in person.

Daniel.. no hard feelings but if I get one of these we will definitely be meeting up.

[matthewAPM]

I have zero experience but I am quoting a source that has plenty.. its called second hand experience from a reliable source. What you offer is an assumption since you have driven neither one.

Numbers do not lie. I don't care if the Z06 driver picked his nose during his lap, the GT-R got from point A to point B faster than the Z06. I just explained this to my 6 year old and he nodded his head so surely you can understand what I am explaining here.

As I said, I did not want to like the GT-R. I wanted it to fail miserably so I could feel good about having a better car years ago.. but it hasnt.. whether you like what people are saying or not you have to admit Nissan has shaken up the market.. to the point where we are here bickering over a car we've yet to even see in person.

Daniel.. no hard feelings but if I get one of these we will definitely be meeting up.

u sure about that? not a GTR obviously...

i dont feel like arguing with dumbass people. read a little then come back to this thread

[tony]

lol This has dwindled down to name calling.. its just entertaining to see folks get in a hissy fit over a car that isn't in production here in the U.S. Even if you have driven a Z06 I don't think that makes you an expert of what the GT-R is capable of.. either way, as long as the owner has a grin on his face at the end of the day thats all that matters.

[DecoyOctopus]

what i have read about the car really impressed me. it beat cars like the mclaren slr around the nuremberg or however you spell it track and they claim it is a ultra low emmision vehicle. thats like a hybrid civic am i mistaken? its not gonna be the fastest thing but i think its original in design and extremly fast for the price. sounds like a winner to me

[Kaiser]

Amen to that.

I wouldn't own that overpriced Jap crap.

If I'm going to spenk 70K its going to be on a new Z06

Your performance will be less, you will be more common, and you will have more issues with reliability. For the same price. I like Corvettes, but what they keep putting out...

[Capt._Ron]

Did I see you yesterday between Exit 102 and Sateille Blvd? I was driving a red S14.

Probably not my car is solid black now. Do you participate in any local drift events?

[Capt._Ron]

ZR-1 > C6Z06 > GTR > C6

Man you were really close but you forgot probably to most awesome factory built race car of all time it really goes s13>ZR-1>C6Z06>GTR>C6

Ha ha IA is like 10 times better drunk

[JITB]

matthew took a gtr around road atlanta....

[takume]

gtr is a great car. but i rather have a r34, thanks.

[umairejaz]

as long as the owner has a grin on his face at the end of the day thats all that matters.

QFT.

[tony]

I've watched this vid over and over and the novelty of it just doesnt seem to wear off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D500ZlkYqtQ

[JITB]

I've watched this vid over and over and the novelty of it just doesnt seem to wear off

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D500ZlkYqtQ

when u get ur gtr, can i have a ride please sir!

[tony]

Its more IF than when, talked to one stealership and they're saying the US is only getting 2000 this year and expect a $35k markup from the start.. I'll pass till things calm down. We will see.

[JITB]

bleh.... so what it will be around 100k? with the markup

[Crazy Asian]

**** that. By the time we wait the GTR V-SPEC will prob be release or NISMO GTR

[matthewAPM]

matthew took a gtr around road atlanta....

haha. i wish. i havent even done it in a video game.

[OnURleft]

matthew took a gtr around road atlanta....

That'd be suprising if it was a new one already. Not at all suprising after this year is over.

[matthewAPM]

That'd be suprising if it was a new one already. Not at all suprising after this year is over.

i love being an instructor...

[OnURleft]

i love being an instructor...

Instructing on a road course has to be so much more fun. Damn ignorant, snotty rich, whiney teenage Richard Petty kids sure can be annoying sometimes.

[matthewAPM]

Instructing on a road course has to be so much more fun. Damn ignorant, snotty rich, whiney teenage Richard Petty kids sure can be annoying sometimes.

drifting ur 540 until the tires are gone and the diff lets go...awesome. autox insturcting is fun too. SCCA autox lisence FTW.

whats better than free track time? and i need someone to run with me. BTW, i talked to madre about M3...laffing...but im selling one of my sets of wheels for some 14x7 team dynamics and hoosiers. 1:44 anyone?

[OnURleft]

drifting ur 540 until the tires are gone and the diff lets go...awesome. autox insturcting is fun too. SCCA autox lisence FTW.

whats better than free track time? and i need someone to run with me. BTW, i talked to madre about M3...laffing...but im selling one of my sets of wheels for some 14x7 team dynamics and hoosiers. 1:44 anyone?

nice nice. we need to discuss getting the PDX thing (sp?) soon. I'm ready for that.

[matthewAPM]

nice nice. we need to discuss getting the PDX thing (sp?) soon. I'm ready for that.

fo sho. SCCA___for this season. koni ST next...

[dwreck579]

this car looks freakin amazingto me. anyone know how much it will cost?

[silvers2k]

if i could only afford it, id be all over it