Should i VTEC my engine or Turbo

[The Yousef]

I think you should Vtec it just to have that badass feeling at about 5000 rpm when it puts you in the seat and then you feel around the same time that you hit full boost and you instantly feel better about who you are.

that is best qoute ever.

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This is not talking about masturbation terms,
this is talking about automotive terms, a stroke is the part of the cycle an engine takes to complete its cycle, thus itake, compression, power, exhaust stroke to complete one cycle. a rotary has four strokes, not wobbles, it takes a standard piston engine 360 degrees to complete a cycle, which it takes a rotary 1080 degrees to complete its cycle, why? because it has longer strokes than a piston engine, wich equals to more power, and more heat.
And if you belive you are smarter than the man who invented the rotary engine Dr. Felix Wankel, because that was a paragraph of his interpretation of the rotary than that is very smart..

dude, you've been pwning yourself in almost all your posts saying the same thing he says and twisting it to make it sound like you are right and he is wrong. Give it up, chava, allmotor knows more about the rotary than you.

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that is best qoute ever.

its definintly sig worthy, but my sig is better so i didnt quote it

[chituntang]

You are obviously one of the people on here with no clue what VTEC is or how it works.... Theres no such thing as ASE certification to work on a VTEC vehicle.

In a well built engine you shouldn't be able to feel the vtec engagement. It is SUPPOSED to be smooth and will have a smooth power curve. Who ever said it was supposed to throw you back in your seat. Its not nitrous oxide. The point of VTEC is to make more power at higher RPM's.

Stick to your rotary engines with their 3 moving parts since a normal internal combustion engine with a little extra technology is too hard for you to comprehend.

I wanted to quote this as a "well built VTEC engine" will still have the "throw you back in your seat" because it is the engine management that makes the vtec works in the first place. You can tune the engine to make it less noticeable, but not replace some parts to make it go away.

I also think rotory engine is more complex than a piston engine.

[isa2o3]

boost it. vtec will give like 5 more hp, people love it b/c of its sound. wont put u back on ur seat though. lol

[Fox351]

On a serious note I would boost it...I am not a big fan of VTEC due to the fact that I am not familiar with it (don't understand the purpose there for I find it useless) . I am used to a single cam with a set size in a motor that is a little bit bigger than a 4 cyl. I am also not a scholar on the facts of different motors...I mainly know a little about the b series. I would boost it just because its the easiest way to pull more power out of small displacement motors.

[allmotoronly]

I wanted to quote this as a "well built VTEC engine" will still have the "throw you back in your seat" because it is the engine management that makes the vtec works in the first place. You can tune the engine to make it less noticeable, but not replace some parts to make it go away.

I also think rotory engine is more complex than a piston engine.

Wankel (Rotary) engines are not more complex, just more complicated. It only has a handfull of moving parts. Its a simple concept that it hard to understand compared to the standard OTTO cycle engine... Two rotors spin on an eccentric shaft that has 1/3 the amount of teeth as the rotor, which makes for a 3:1 increase. The shaft spins three times for every single revoluton of the rotor. When the rotor spins, it wobbles around this shaft in a way that causes it to compress the air fuel mixture. I will try to find a vid. you have to see to understand.

heres a vid. Its a little crappy, but the general idea is expressed well

http://www.keveney.com/Wankel.html

[93H22ACX]

if you want a more efficient motor then either but a h22 head on your SOHC block or get a full H22 motor, then turbo it.

but if you do not have the money to do both and want speed, just turbo it and get a good safe tune or install a nitrous kit.

[G.C]

f22b is dohc.

[G.C]

maybe i should just turbo this engine? because i dont have enough money to do both. . its either i get a swap or i get a turbo. and sounds like turbo is the thing

F22B

This engine was used in the 1992-1996 Honda Prelude Si in Japan. It is similar to the H23A,.

Specifications

* Bore × Stroke: 85.0 × 95.0 mm
* Displacement: 2156 cc
* Valve Configuration: DOHC, 16 valves
* Compression ratio: 9.3:1
* Max power: 160 hp (119 kW) @ 6000 rpm
* Max torque: 148 ft·lbf (200 N m) @ 5000 rpm

[93H22ACX]

some reason i was thinking about the accord motor lol. same thing..you can put the h22 head on it.


honestly...its really up to you to decide on. i would say do alot of research and make a decision on what you'd like to have.

i've had h23, h23vtec, h22 n/a, h22 turbo, h22 coupe, h22 eg....was gonna do a h22 dc but sold it and bought a supra instead.

as you can tell...i'm a h22 fan...it's really all in preference.

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some reason i was thinking about the accord motor lol. same thing..you can put the h22 head on it.

you must be referring to the "G" swap (H22/23 head on an F bottom end) It can be done but after the cost of all that stuff, you might as well get a whole H swap

[93H22ACX]

not really. the cost is cheaper then getting a complete h22 swap. all you are paying for is the h22 hg, timing belt, waterpump, and timing gear for the crank besides a head (which i have for sale for $350 complete). those are something you would "NEED" to do to any motor you buy. That is less than $1000+ for a h22 longblock.

you must be referring to the "G" swap (H22/23 head on an F bottom end) It can be done but after the cost of all that stuff, you might as well get a whole H swap

[G.C]

so how much money will i be spending in total to put a h22 or h23 vtec head on my dohc f22b engine??

[brittoknee]

and you instantly feel better about who you are.

LMAO.... hahahahahaa


gah what a loser

[BlkCD5]

^ . Brittonee, could you give him some enlightenment on the Vtec head conversion. I heard that you had a H23 block with a H22 head.

[93H22ACX]

so how much money will i be spending in total to put a h22 or h23 vtec head on my dohc f22b engine??

just depends on how lucky you are in finding parts...

H22 head= $300-$500
h22 timing belit= $50
h22 hg= $40
h22 waterpump=$100
h22 timing gear=$30
h22 water neck pipe=$30

while ad it..i'd get arp head studs also....

keep in mind..the pricing above is just an estimate.. could be more, could be less..depends on how good you are in finding deals.

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not really. the cost is cheaper then getting a complete h22 swap. all you are paying for is the h22 hg, timing belt, waterpump, and timing gear for the crank besides a head (which i have for sale for $350 complete). those are something you would "NEED" to do to any motor you buy. That is less than $1000+ for a h22 longblock.

Not only just the cost, but theres a lot of work involved. Its not a weekend project. LS/VTEC for the honda big block. guess you could call it LX/VTEC (for the accord LX motor and VTEC head maybe?

[93H22ACX]

Not only just the cost, but theres a lot of work involved. Its not a weekend project. LS/VTEC for the honda big block. guess you could call it LX/VTEC (for the accord LX motor and VTEC head maybe?

if you can change a timing belt then you can do this. might take a whole day but its doable in a weekend. when i had mine it only took 4hours to do....

[allmotoronly]

if you can change a timing belt then you can do this. might take a whole day but its doable in a weekend. when i had mine it only took 4hours to do....

It takes a lot longer than 4 hours to do the swap on a F series. There is more skill involved than being able to change a timing belt. Before you put the head on you have to drill out the oil passage block off in the block. To put the head on you have to take the cams out of the head. You also have to know the proper technique for torquing the head. Then you have to put the cams back in. Theres a lot of stuff you have to do. Its not like you can unbolt the stock head and bolt the H22A head right up.

Calling this combination a "G" series or a "G22" is a stupid name since honda actually has a G series, and calling the Fseries block/H series head combination a G series makes it even more confusing. These engines usually have issues, which is the reason why every person with an F series engine hasn't performed the conversion.

[93H22ACX]

i'm talking about the h23vtec, not the f22/vtec. and honestly, i don't see the f22 taking any longer than a h23vtec conversion if you know what you're doing.

Peter's always done my motors for me and it doesnt take long

It takes a lot longer than 4 hours to do the swap on a F series. There is more skill involved than being able to change a timing belt. Before you put the head on you have to drill out the oil passage block off in the block. To put the head on you have to take the cams out of the head. You also have to know the proper technique for torquing the head. Then you have to put the cams back in. Theres a lot of stuff you have to do. Its not like you can unbolt the stock head and bolt the H22A head right up.

Calling this combination a "G" series or a "G22" is a stupid name since honda actually has a G series, and calling the Fseries block/H series head combination a G series makes it even more confusing. These engines usually have issues, which is the reason why every person with an F series engine hasn't performed the conversion.

[turkeyracer]

i would say turbo just cause if i did it i wouldnt wana deal with all the wiring and having a nice bov is soooooooooo pretty

[an0therh22]

i would say turbo just cause if i did it i wouldnt wana deal with all the wiring and having a nice bov is soooooooooo pretty

ricer talk... jk.

[Kevykev]

jk.

you sure? cause i thought you were accurate!

[G.C]

what do you mean by issues? allmotoronly.