Opinions on new Cobalt

[Maniaç]

Should be interesting running into one on the hwy.

[DrivenMind]

No more SVT brand is just not good for the Ford Franchise.......

No kidding, I don't care for Ford but I used to swear by SVT. Anything they touched turned to gold. Look at the 03' gen Cobras, they were ****ing monsters. Not to mention the Lighting, and uber sweet handling, and sounding SVT Focus.

SVT Contour anyone? That thing was soo clean, and pretty damned peppy too.

I think SVT was the backbone of Ford performance, now they're trying to give us a 500hp Mustang with the name "Shelby" on it, and hope that maybe we will all overlook the fact that it weighs nearly 4,000lbs. Not me. **** power, and **** torque, the first thing I look at when guesstimating the performance of a new car is it's weight.

American car manufacturer's have got to quit trying to take short cuts on making good cars, especially to their home audience. The automotive obesity epidemic might be overlooked by soccer moms, and dip ****s driving polished up Tahoes (read: H2 & H3) but for those of us with performance in mind, we aren't going to be fooled by power figures alone anymore.

[Ran]

Where's my Ion Redline? lol

[blown_ss]

^^I've never actually heard of your problems and I was one of the first members to join cobaltss.net along with "Da Satchmoe" (i think that was his CSS name). Though I wasn't severly active like here we provided a lot of information to a couple of the guys over there so it atleast sounded as if they knew what they were talking about. Also, as far as your car goes, were you driving it like an ass hauling everywhere you went? Redlining every chance you felt the need to hear it wind up? If so I can absolutely understand why it took a **** on you

im not trying to start anything but you must have not went on there that much or looked into the cars that much. there are more then 50 members just on that web site that have had their cats clogged. hell one guy had like 23 miles on his car and the cat clogged, the dealership told another guy that he used leaded gas and thats why his clogged but he didnt even know where to get leaded gas. if you search on there you will find all of the problems. also i didnt drive mine that hard. hell i didnt even get on it until it had 5k miles on it, well besides the test drive. i never even took my car to the track. these cars suck. hell i even have the pistons to show you guys what happen to me. this car was a waste of money for GM to make. i have talked to alot of people that have them and they wish they could get rid of them. dont get me wrong the car was fun as hell to drive and it was quick, hell i even kept up with a stock twin turbo supra from a dig (a few members on here would vouch for that) all im saying is that i would never even think of buying another FI I4 car from GM, they dont know what they are doing. thats my .02

[Dietcoke]

Where's my Ion Redline? lol

Discountinued for the Astra. No turbo motor in the astra (yet). One is offered overseas.

[Bballjamal]

im not trying to start anything but you must have not went on there that much or looked into the cars that much. there are more then 50 members just on that web site that have had their cats clogged. hell one guy had like 23 miles on his car and the cat clogged, the dealership told another guy that he used leaded gas and thats why his clogged but he didnt even know where to get leaded gas. if you search on there you will find all of the problems. also i didnt drive mine that hard. hell i didnt even get on it until it had 5k miles on it, well besides the test drive. i never even took my car to the track. these cars suck. hell i even have the pistons to show you guys what happen to me. this car was a waste of money for GM to make. i have talked to alot of people that have them and they wish they could get rid of them. dont get me wrong the car was fun as hell to drive and it was quick, hell i even kept up with a stock twin turbo supra from a dig (a few members on here would vouch for that) all im saying is that i would never even think of buying another FI I4 car from GM, they dont know what they are doing. thats my .02

You're right, I was barely on there but figured I'd hear something about it with how I cruise around car sites and by knowing a few friend that own them around the country! Interesting.....

I totally trust the 2.2 Eco they started with, as I've seen nothig but good things from a good tune, forged internals, and 15+ psi. <---Thats not stating everything but you get the jist. Were the SS's just ran super rich out of the factory or do people know what caused the problems?

[Ran]

Discountinued for the Astra. No turbo motor in the astra (yet). One is offered overseas.

Ion > Astra

[Dietcoke]

Ion > Astra

Having owned an IRL, I think the Ion looks better, but the astra is a superior platform.

[Bballjamal]

there's still commision to be had? I didnt get my license because the market took a hit so bad

Commission is garunteed no matter how depreciated the value of the house gets. No matter what you're doing your job in listing, finding, inspecting, and finalizing the purchase on the house. The market right now is only in bad shape for those wanting to sale their house. It's a buyers market and with more people buying the more chances you have to be their agent

[Glides]

Take a **** in your hand, hold it up to the light and that is my opinion on the Cobalt.

[Bballjamal]

Take a **** in your hand, hold it up to the light and that is my opinion on the Cobalt.

All I got was a weird feeling in my hand and poo covering up the light Is this right?

[WTF?]

it will cost to much IMO just like the ones now....but they can be impressive

[Bballjamal]

it will cost to much IMO just like the ones now....but they can be impressive

This is VERY true! I could never spend $20k on another cavalier especially when the first one i got only cost half.......