Few specs on New Skyline!!!

[Ran]

Meh, it's not super car material, not even close. Speed isn't the only thing that makes a super car, other wise there would be hundreds of Supra "super cars"

Please define me a supercar. There's speed, handling, aerodynamics, ect...

The new GT-R is supposed to be pumping out some heavy horses, the suspension tweaked on the Nurburgring(sp?), aerodynamics have been altered to help stabalize the car (note ugly C-Pillar), and the interior is a hell of a lot more attractive than the baby-sh*t colored suede in the new Lambo.

[man]

Please define me a supercar. There's speed, handling, aerodynamics, ect...

The new GT-R is supposed to be pumping out some heavy horses, the suspension tweaked on the Nurburgring(sp?), aerodynamics have been altered to help stabalize the car (note ugly C-Pillar), and the interior is a hell of a lot more attractive than the baby-sh*t colored suede in the new Lambo.

They do aerodynamics testing on minivans. Losing the look of your C pillars is not a commitment to aero. Designing the car from ground up with aerodynamics in mind is what makes a super car. Suspension tweaking means nothing, any car can have a good suspension, but not every car can have a good chassis, and the GT-R isn't going to be able to even come close to modern super cars at its price. And the interior, you're absolutely insane if you think it looks better than a Lambo. Plus it's not about looks, it's about quality, cheap plastics can look great, but at the end, you're polishing a turd.

[IDCoconut]

And the interior, you're absolutely insane if you think it looks better than a Lambo. Plus it's not about looks, it's about quality, cheap plastics can look great, but at the end, you're polishing a turd.

Dude I agree with you on some points, but Quality and Lamborghini should not be in the same sentence. Lambos are probably the cheapest peices of **** supercars out of them all that just happens to cost a lot.

A great example of quality is Ferrari.

[Ran]

They do aerodynamics testing on minivans. Losing the look of your C pillars is not a commitment to aero. Designing the car from ground up with aerodynamics in mind is what makes a super car. Suspension tweaking means nothing, any car can have a good suspension, but not every car can have a good chassis, and the GT-R isn't going to be able to even come close to modern super cars at its price.

Last I checked, the new GT-R was built from the ground up to challenge the Porsche 911 Turbo and the Carrera GT. Are you saying the GT-R just doesn't have a good chassis? Also, at the price under $100,000 I'd say it's pretty competitive for it's price range.

And the interior, you're absolutely insane if you think it looks better than a Lambo.

Lambo has always looked like a Down Syndrome Ferrari built with Legos.

Plus it's not about looks, it's about quality, cheap plastics can look great, but at the end, you're polishing a turd.

I don't know about you, but I'd rather have good looking cheap plastic than some hideous material that just happens to cost a lot.

[man]

Last I checked, the new GT-R was built from the ground up to challenge the Porsche 911 Turbo and the Carrera GT. Are you saying the GT-R just doesn't have a good chassis? Also, at the price under $100,000 I'd say it's pretty competitive for it's price range.

How can you look at the GT-R and tell me that it was designed to push the limits of what aerodynamics will allow? It isn't even close. The GT-R is still based on the G35, so no it wasn't built from the ground up. Also, it was meant to challenge the Carrera GT, but it isn't even close around the Nurburgring. And yes it did beat the 911 Turbo marginally, but the 911 Turbo is not a super car.

Lambo has always looked like a Down Syndrome Ferrari built with Legos.

I don't really understand how you fail to see the brilliance in Lamboghini's design. Are you really going to try to tell me a Diablo or Murcielago look retarded?

I don't know about you, but I'd rather have good looking cheap plastic than some hideous material that just happens to cost a lot.

Well, the interior colors are customizable. Does this look cheap to you?

[Ran]

How can you look at the GT-R and tell me that it was designed to push the limits of what aerodynamics will allow? It isn't even close. The GT-R is still based on the G35, so no it wasn't built from the ground up. Also, it was meant to challenge the Carrera GT, but it isn't even close around the Nurburgring. And yes it did beat the 911 Turbo marginally, but the 911 Turbo is not a super car.

Recent reports have indicated that the car is still undergoing final testing at the Nurburgring before being unveiled at the 2007 Tokyo Motor Show. Spies have reported the test cars as being able to lap the 'Ring somewhere around 7 minutes 35 seconds which is already faster than the Chevrolet Corvette Z06 and the Porsche 911 Turbo, Nissan is reportedly going after the lap record of the Porsche Carrera GT.

^ From Wiki

I don't really understand how you fail to see the brilliance in Lamboghini's design. Are you really going to try to tell me a Diablo or Murcielago look retarded?

Well, the interior colors are customizable. Does this look cheap to you?

Yes, quite easily at that. The cars are ugly as sin. You could give a blind man a bucket of Lincoln Logs and get better looking car designs. I have never been impressed the starship designs of European "supercars".

Lamborghini Reventon

On the flip side of your comment, I don't see how you can look at that car and not vomit. As my post in that thread states...

It's like they took the Galardo and tried to make it even more hideous than it already was. The exterior design looks like it got to the graph paper stage before then the artist said "f*ck it", and called it a day. The interior is a flamboyantly failed mixture of carbon fiber, leather, and what appears to be baby sh*t smeared on suede. I could piss in a rusty bucket after a vasectomy and it wouldn't look that bad.

It amazes me what the rich will waste their money on.

Now what makes you say that the GT-R interior will be "cheap plastic" like a lesser 350Z? This car is a huge step for Nissan and I would believe that the interior would get the same refinement.

Now I'm by no standard a GT-R fanboy. I like the older R32 and that's pretty much about it. I don't praise it's factory performance but I do respect it's heritage and the potential of the car. Now with the new GT-R, I'm not a fan of the styling at all, but I do respect the fact that a common company like Nissan is actually taking a stab at creating a car that is aiming to be competitive in a higher market. The reported performance of the new GT-R also leaves me looking at how it will do in final production form. If the new Vette can be thrown into "supercar" status, then I see no reason why the GT-R can't if it possess the same performance numbers.

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^ From Wiki

Then they failed.

[Ran]

Then they failed.

The details in your argument are overwhelming.

Come on man, throw me something more that just that.