Meh, it's not super car material, not even close. Speed isn't the only thing that makes a super car, other wise there would be hundreds of Supra "super cars"![]()
Meh, it's not super car material, not even close. Speed isn't the only thing that makes a super car, other wise there would be hundreds of Supra "super cars"![]()
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exactlyOriginally Posted by fcman
cars that come to mind when i think supercar is Mclaren F1 or Jaguar XJ220
the nissan GTR is not on that level,there are very few japanesse cars if any that are on that level
Please define me a supercar. There's speed, handling, aerodynamics, ect...Originally Posted by fcman
The new GT-R is supposed to be pumping out some heavy horses, the suspension tweaked on the Nurburgring(sp?), aerodynamics have been altered to help stabalize the car (note ugly C-Pillar), and the interior is a hell of a lot more attractive than the baby-sh*t colored suede in the new Lambo.
They do aerodynamics testing on minivans. Losing the look of your C pillars is not a commitment to aero. Designing the car from ground up with aerodynamics in mind is what makes a super car. Suspension tweaking means nothing, any car can have a good suspension, but not every car can have a good chassis, and the GT-R isn't going to be able to even come close to modern super cars at its price. And the interior, you're absolutely insane if you think it looks better than a Lambo. Plus it's not about looks, it's about quality, cheap plastics can look great, but at the end, you're polishing a turd.Originally Posted by Ran
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Dude I agree with you on some points, but Quality and Lamborghini should not be in the same sentence. Lambos are probably the cheapest peices of **** supercars out of them all that just happens to cost a lot.Originally Posted by fcman
A great example of quality is Ferrari.
Last I checked, the new GT-R was built from the ground up to challenge the Porsche 911 Turbo and the Carrera GT. Are you saying the GT-R just doesn't have a good chassis? Also, at the price under $100,000 I'd say it's pretty competitive for it's price range.Originally Posted by fcman
Lambo has always looked like a Down Syndrome Ferrari built with Legos.Originally Posted by fcman
I don't know about you, but I'd rather have good looking cheap plastic than some hideous material that just happens to cost a lot.Originally Posted by fcman
How can you look at the GT-R and tell me that it was designed to push the limits of what aerodynamics will allow? It isn't even close. The GT-R is still based on the G35, so no it wasn't built from the ground up. Also, it was meant to challenge the Carrera GT, but it isn't even close around the Nurburgring. And yes it did beat the 911 Turbo marginally, but the 911 Turbo is not a super car.Originally Posted by Ran
I don't really understand how you fail to see the brilliance in Lamboghini's design. Are you really going to try to tell me a Diablo or Murcielago look retarded?Originally Posted by Ran
Well, the interior colors are customizable. Does this look cheap to you?Originally Posted by Ran
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Recent reports have indicated that the car is still undergoing final testing at the Nurburgring before being unveiled at the 2007 Tokyo Motor Show. Spies have reported the test cars as being able to lap the 'Ring somewhere around 7 minutes 35 seconds which is already faster than the Chevrolet Corvette Z06 and the Porsche 911 Turbo, Nissan is reportedly going after the lap record of the Porsche Carrera GT.Originally Posted by fcman
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Yes, quite easily at that. The cars are ugly as sin. You could give a blind man a bucket of Lincoln Logs and get better looking car designs. I have never been impressed the starship designs of European "supercars".Originally Posted by fcman
Lamborghini Reventon
On the flip side of your comment, I don't see how you can look at that car and not vomit. As my post in that thread states...
Now what makes you say that the GT-R interior will be "cheap plastic" like a lesser 350Z? This car is a huge step for Nissan and I would believe that the interior would get the same refinement.Originally Posted by Ran
Now I'm by no standard a GT-R fanboy. I like the older R32 and that's pretty much about it. I don't praise it's factory performance but I do respect it's heritage and the potential of the car. Now with the new GT-R, I'm not a fan of the styling at all, but I do respect the fact that a common company like Nissan is actually taking a stab at creating a car that is aiming to be competitive in a higher market. The reported performance of the new GT-R also leaves me looking at how it will do in final production form. If the new Vette can be thrown into "supercar" status, then I see no reason why the GT-R can't if it possess the same performance numbers.
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Then they failed.Originally Posted by Ran