turbo civic putting in work

[Vteckidd]

Mainstream, Batlground, Topspeed, all have inertia dynos without load bearing option to my knowledge last i checked

[Vteckidd]

Info posted is nice to know, Still seems track tuning I.E street tuning would be the the best.. Given it's really hard to street tune, location and safety factors come into play.. Any thoughts on this? My understanding was dyno is only an aid for a tuner, a good tuner would come to the track and review the logs.. Then make changes as needed!! Comments are welcome!!!

problem with street tuning is its really hard to do a 4th gear pull to 140mph on the street safely, and you cant drive and tune at the same time. you can log and then make changes. Its best to have someone else drive it, while you tune it, etc. Plus its not a controlled environment.

Track is always good but even then , how do you get to the point of running your car all out, you have to have a workable tune first, and "trying it out" by running a track run is dangerous.

its usually best to go "tune it" on a dyno, then make tweaks at the track with data logging. but not everyone can invest in a personal tuner, or have the equipment to tune a car themselves.

[1civic]

Nasty Shit right here!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT3-U...1&feature=fvwp

[112480]

Info posted is nice to know, Still seems track tuning I.E street tuning would be the the best.. Given it's really hard to street tune, location and safety factors come into play.. Any thoughts on this? My understanding was dyno is only an aid for a tuner, a good tuner would come to the track and review the logs.. Then make changes as needed!! Comments are welcome!!!

Hey bobby, let me ask you....... why would i show my graph above?

[1civic]

Hey bobby, let me ask you....... why would i show my graph above?

You posted it for someone to compare.. Unless your leaning to a new point of conversation with me.. Explain!

[112480]

You posted it for someone to compare.. Unless your leaning to a new point of conversation with me.. Explain!

eh, just wondering if you were wondering why i would show my graph knowing that a "few select" group of people are looking on in the shadows

[1civic]

eh, just wondering if you were wondering why i would show my graph

Naw, I want you to come out the bushes so I can put the smack down on you with the B series..

[SRCRX]

lot of info. in here!!

[1civic]

Tuning is one thing in which I never picked up on.. The intimidation factor has always been there, kind of like jumping on a bike the first time!!

I'd love to learn, but damn if I want to blow the shit up!!! LOL

[Vteckidd]

Tuning is one thing in which I never picked up on.. The intimidation factor has always been there, kind of like jumping on a bike the first time!!

I'd love to learn, but damn if I want to blow the shit up!!! LOL

lol thats how i feel about engine building. I was always like god damn thats a lot of work just to fuck up and ruin something.

But if you can build an engine, if you know how an engine works, then tuning is just something you gotta jump into but knowing how and why always helps.

Like i said the EFI 101 class is a great place to start, it teaches you a ton of info and really make you understand what dyno time is really all about. I honestly thought i KNEW more in 2 days than a lot of so called tuners know.

Anyone can turn sit behind a computer and hit numbers till the a/f "looks right". but understanding WHY a car makes power a certain way, and how to reach that point, is far more important.

[EmminoDaGreat]

Dynojets have load bearing option

[MidnightAuto]

Dynojets have load bearing option

Shhhhhhhhhhhh! Your not supposed to tell...

[1civic]

Shhhhhhhhhhhh! Your not supposed to tell...

Morris, I got a Tag for that hooptie!! LOL

[Vteckidd]

Shhhhhhhhhhhh! Your not supposed to tell...

and ill tell you i have not seen 1 Dynojet in Georgia with the optional Eddy Current Load Absorption Unit add on. If one exists thats cool id like to see it used

[112480]

Dynojets have load bearing option

That is nothing new james............well to those who know

[David88vert]

Dynojets have load bearing option

Some DynoJets have load bearing - most of the older units are inertia only.

[Vteckidd]

Last time i was on a dyno ws 09, so if someone picked one up thats cool , has anyone tuned with it versus a dyno dynamics?

[1civic]

240hp B owns any all motor K in GA... True story!!

[112480]

240hp B owns any all motor K in GA... True story!!

Moseley you want to take this one? lol

[1civic]

Moseley you want to take this one? lol

He lost to a B already!! He can't save you...LOL

[112480]

He lost to a B already!! He can't save you...LOL

Well actually LUIS lost to you. Moseley hasnt.

[112480]

240hp B owns any all motor K in GA... True story!!

Well i would guess you would have to beat a few all motor k's here to prove that theory right?

[DarKStaR]

Dont count out the H's......lol

[1civic]

Dont count out the H's......lol

H needs a B tranny so it fails!!...LOL

[DarKStaR]

might need a b series tranny but they make power.....I hear theres a few coming out real soon

[1civic]

might need a b series tranny but they make power.....I hear theres a few coming out real soon

Bring it!! Give me more of a reason too build something faster... LOL

[1civic]

By all means I'm not the fastest here.. All I say is right now a B series runs the fastest times down the 1/4 in GA.. No one has knocked on that door!! Not an H or a K.. Roll racing is fun and safer, but I never cared for them.. I've done it to adapt and continue having fun!!

[Moseley]

5g's wouldn't matter. the only way you can make big power with a B is to rev it to the moon. so go build a 10.5k motor for 5g's. it'll make 250-260 and need a rebuild after a few dozen passes down the track. why even do that, when for the same money, you can make 10 less hp on a stock K that'll last 150,000 miles being ragged out every day.

[1civic]

5g's wouldn't matter. the only way you can make big power with a B is to rev it to the moon. so go build a 10.5k motor for 5g's. it'll make 250-260 and need a rebuild after a few dozen passes down the track. why even do that, when for the same money, you can make 10 less hp on a stock K that'll last 150,000 miles being ragged out every day.

ya, ya.. all comes down to race car or street car..

[Vteckidd]

5 grand won't get you a 250-260whp b series. It'll take more than that and it'll take skill, the only 3 motors making over 230 were either built by Bisi (streetstuff) or DFE (me and chip).

I'd be very surprised to see a real 250whp b series on a dynojet in Georgia. I do not believe one exists.

Bobby seriously the whole "bought" vs "built" should not be an argument. Unless you cam build a similar motor we are all in the same boat IE we aren't as good as some of the top engine builders in the state/country.

Some people like to build it themselves to learn (chunky and you) some would rather pay a professional to assemble the motor they want built (me, matt etc).

No problem with either way IMO

[1civic]

5 grand won't get you a 250-260whp b series. It'll take more than that and it'll take skill, the only 3 motors making over 230 were either built by Bisi (streetstuff) or DFE (me and chip).

I'd be very surprised to see a real 250whp b series on a dynojet in Georgia. I do not believe one exists.

Bobby seriously the whole "bought" vs "built" should not be an argument. Unless you cam build a similar motor we are all in the same boat IE we aren't as good as some of the top engine builders in the state/country.

Some people like to build it themselves to learn (chunky and you) some would rather pay a professional to assemble the motor they want built (me, matt etc).

No problem with either way IMO

No, info on the RSX was he bought the longblock for 5K, I'm not knocking the guy.. I'm sure the bill came to be much more if the shop did all the work.. Just trying to stir them up a bit!!!

EDIT:

Moseley, run the Midnight hatch.. It's the same setup in the RSX homie!!

[*EFilliated*]

Owe it exists. Just hasn't came out to the track yet

5 grand won't get you a 250-260whp b series. It'll take more than that and it'll take skill, the only 3 motors making over 230 were either built by Bisi (streetstuff) or DFE (me and chip).

I'd be very surprised to see a real 250whp b series on a dynojet in Georgia. I do not believe one exists.

Bobby seriously the whole "bought" vs "built" should not be an argument. Unless you cam build a similar motor we are all in the same boat IE we aren't as good as some of the top engine builders in the state/country.

Some people like to build it themselves to learn (chunky and you) some would rather pay a professional to assemble the motor they want built (me, matt etc).

No problem with either way IMO

[1civic]

Owe it exists. Just hasn't came out to the track yet

He isn't ready to hear all that.. Shhh, let him see it!! LOL

[Vteckidd]

Owe it exists. Just hasn't came out to the track yet

Haha that's awesome that's a lot of power. Good luck :p

I think the real motor that has best Hp/dollar is h2b personally. Relatively stock motors making 240-250whp with the tq is awesome paired with b series gearing.

J32 is cheapest but then you're a 6 cylinder and can't compete against other 4s at the track

[B18c1Turboed]

And im sorry the turbo jumped big time, and that supra was weak.

[h22 jones]

And im sorry the turbo jumped big time, and that supra was weak.

I love how people skipp fifteen pages and post some dumb shit about a turbo car when everybody is talking about all motor cars lol.

Ill tell you what bring me any 300hp turbo car you want and ill bust his ass with a 500 pound heavier car and 50 less hp. Thats why we go all motor.

[smote]

"5 grand won't get you a 250-260whp b series. It'll take more than that and it'll take skill, the only 3 motors making over 230 were either built by Bisi (streetstuff) or DFE (me and chip).

I'd be very surprised to see a real 250whp b series on a dynojet in Georgia. I do not believe one exists."

For the record, Chip built his own motor. DFE only ported the head. As for the amount of power it makes, I won't say. But, it did run 11.6 a couple of weeks ago and he's got some more in the bag.

[stretch]

"5 grand won't get you a 250-260whp b series. It'll take more than that and it'll take skill, the only 3 motors making over 230 were either built by Bisi (streetstuff) or DFE (me and chip).

I'd be very surprised to see a real 250whp b series on a dynojet in Georgia. I do not believe one exists."

For the record, Chip built his own motor. DFE only ported the head. As for the amount of power it makes, I won't say. But, it did run 11.6 a couple of weeks ago and he's got some more in the bag.

niceeeeeeee..... yall should bring it out to play sometime.... we would love to see it

[*EFilliated*]

"5 grand won't get you a 250-260whp b series. It'll take more than that and it'll take skill, the only 3 motors making over 230 were either built by Bisi (streetstuff) or DFE (me and chip).

I'd be very surprised to see a real 250whp b series on a dynojet in Georgia. I do not believe one exists."

For the record, Chip built his own motor. DFE only ported the head. As for the amount of power it makes, I won't say. But, it did run 11.6 a couple of weeks ago and he's got some more in the bag.

[1civic]

Don't they not know a b20/v with cams will make 230.. WTF is wrong with him and Vteckidd??


LOL