I just want to get everybodys opion on how much hp it takes for a turboed car to run with a all motor car. For example in my experience it takes around 185hp for a all motor car to run mid 13s . It takes around 240hp for a turboed car to run mid 13s. A 250hp all motor car will run high 11s low 12s while it takes around 350 turboed hp to run this. I know there are a tone of other factors that control what a car runs but lets just keep it to allmotor and turboed hp in this thread. If you want to give the weight of the car to make it a little easier to compare thats fine but dont get into tire size , trany gearing , etc.

I just realy thought this would make for some good reading and maybe help some of the new guys decide weither they wanna go allmotor or turbo. I know its hard for turbo guys and all motor guys to have a discussion with out all the hating and bashing but please keep that crap out of this thread this should realy be a good discussion.

I have nothing against turbo cars honestly the reason i got into all motor ( ten years ago) was a gsr swap cost 3500 and a decent turbo kit was 3000 thats 6500 dollars in just the swap to run mid 13s. I ordered a jdm h22 with a lsd m2b4 trany shipped to the door for 2200 dollars . I paid 100 dollars for mounts , 120 dollars for axles, 40 dollars for accord jack shaft, 20 dollars for slim fan , 75 dollars for accord shifter and shift linkage,. I spent around 2600 on my swap and ran mid 13s and still had the option to turbo later it was all about running the same times at the track for less then half the price. All my friends hated on me when i ordered my swap untill they road in it one of them actualy have a h22 swapped hatch right now ( i did the swap about a year ago) and the other one has bought two or three h22 swaps just never finished them. Ive just always stuck with h22s every since then but thats besides the point post up your opions on the difference in how much hp it takes to run what times with either all motor or turboed.

Please post what you know from experience not what you have read . What i mean by this is we all know 300hp all motor will get you tens in calafornia and canada and 350 turboed hp will get you tens in canada lol. lets keep it local cars so they can be actualy compared if you dont understand why cars run so much faster on the west coast trust me when you bring them to the east cost they run no faster then we do nor do they make any more hp its all about the air so no way to compare a car from the east coast that you read about keep it local ( somebodys car that you actualy are friends with or your own car).