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*EFilliated*
06-14-2011, 02:25 PM
:headslap:


And again i do not give 2 shits about what hes done in NYC.

BRING ME THE 250whp ALL MOTOR B SERIES CAR TO MAINSTREAMS DYNO AND IF IT MAKES THAT ILL PAY HIM MONEY.

still waiting on that.........

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 02:27 PM
You are a funny KID yes fuel is the key did I say what kind of fuel no I didn't just like you can't make 800whp on pump in a boosted honda it takes know how with a nitrous car to run big shots. Yes consistancy is key with nitrous but bottle warmers, equal flow distribution blocks, and dedicated fuel or dry systems all work together for n20 consistancy. As for dyno numbers I could care less as long as the car is trapping consistant mph I know what power its making.

oh snap so C16 magically makes ringlands better?!!! good to know. Jesus you guys are so smart, whatever have i been doing all these years. Youre argument has turned from "nitrous is totally reliable with the right fuel" to , "if you run all the right things and correct parts it is consistent"

isnt that the EXACT same god damn arugment i just said?

ahh so all that stuff you listed basically agrees with what i said right? How MOST people dont run the right setup HENCE it leads to blown motors. Bring me a STOCK MOTOR with 150+ on it and take my challenge. Show me how much you really know about nitrous and enlighten us all.

Are you that dense?


As for dyno numbers I could care less as long as the car is trapping consistant mph I know what power its making
sounds like another cop out. Once again when asked for proof or even a shred of evidence, none to be found.

Nitrous cars ESPECIALLY need dyno time, prob more than any other car because of how volatile it is.

So youre telling me you run 150 shots blind ?
sorry i dont buy that for a second

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 02:32 PM
:headslap:

why headslap, am i not anymore fucking clear for you people? Why is it so hard to understand? You guys claim these big numbers and all this street cred from some other state that none of us care about but we are supposed to respect it.

ANd when someone like me comes along who has been involved in the atlanta scene AS LONG as the new york people i somehow dont know what im talking about.

Well i dont act like i know everything about NYC street racing, dont act like you guys know how easy it is to make power in GA.

Again, if that motor exists, lets see it. Im all ears, eyes, and cash is burning a hole in my pocket

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 02:39 PM
you guys are retarded and im not going to waste my time or breath anymore on a bunch of people that refuse to even offer any kind of proof to back up their rediculous statements.

If you guys empty your pockets and shake out that 250whp B Series, you know how to find me.

*EFilliated*
06-14-2011, 02:41 PM
the whole Bseries HP BS was settled weeks ago so idk y ur bringing that up here with a whole new discussion about nitrous, and dont worry we arnt in to hurry to try and prove people wrong, that will be achieved very soon

"It is my feeling that Time ripens all things; with Time all things are revealed; Time is the father of truth."

Francois Rabelais


why headslap, am i not anymore fucking clear for you people? Why is it so hard to understand? You guys claim these big numbers and all this street cred from some other state that none of us care about but we are supposed to respect it.

ANd when someone like me comes along who has been involved in the atlanta scene AS LONG as the new york people i somehow dont know what im talking about.

Well i dont act like i know everything about NYC street racing, dont act like you guys know how easy it is to make power in GA.

Again, if that motor exists, lets see it. Im all ears, eyes, and cash is burning a hole in my pocket

*EFilliated*
06-14-2011, 02:52 PM
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top_speed
06-14-2011, 03:04 PM
you guys are retarded and im not going to waste my time or breath anymore on a bunch of people that refuse to even offer any kind of proof to back up their rediculous statements.

If you guys empty your pockets and shake out that 250whp B Series, you know how to find me.

go jump off a bridge you will see the car soon enough life doesnt revolve around vteckidd life.. when the car is ready you gonna see it on midnights dyno.. you wanna see it on mainstream dyno up the $$$$

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 03:27 PM
go jump off a bridge you will see the car soon enough life doesnt revolve around vteckidd life.. when the car is ready you gonna see it on midnights dyno.. you wanna see it on mainstream dyno up the $$$$

blahblahblahlbah

ghostofnyc
06-14-2011, 03:43 PM
Vteckidd is a clown plain and simple. Asked about consistancy issues I solve them then he says thats what hes been saying all along so which is it consistant or inconsistant lmfao yes mr. almighty vtecKID you are the man and we should all :bow: down to you just cause you haven't seen something doesn't mean it hasn't been done. Notice I said stock block not stock motor you should take your own advice and read what people say k bye now .

tdurr
06-14-2011, 04:24 PM
Lol just putting in my 2cents but from reading just this page vteckidd looks like he was speaking the truth. He did say it's all about consistent and u just said it bout fuel.... Then explained how u make ur set up consistent.... Sooo in this cas vteckidd - 1 Ghostofnyc - 0

jerseyef9
06-14-2011, 04:37 PM
Lol just putting in my 2cents but from reading just this page vteckidd looks like he was speaking the truth. He did say it's all about consistent and u just said it bout fuel.... Then explained how u make ur set up consistent.... Sooo in this cas vteckidd - 1 Ghostofnyc - 0





:dildo:glad we see what u and vteckidd do on your personal time

i know for fact ghostofnyc built more motors then vteck bought just sayin g

tdurr
06-14-2011, 04:41 PM
Lol don't hate on me. Ur boy just played right into vteckidds hands.

jerseyef9
06-14-2011, 04:42 PM
Lol don't hate on me. Ur boy just played right into vteckidds hands.

i bet you my car title there is nothing vteckidd can buy that ghost cant put together and bust his ass
i dont hate no1 i just state facts matter fact i run with your accord if u want me to hate you dig lmk whats up buddy

Moseley
06-14-2011, 05:10 PM
lol so now we have this ghost of nyc. he's all knowing, has more ability than anyone around, his identity is a mystery to most, and he has a bunch of die hard followers. OMG it must be JESUS CHRIST! he's back and building Honda's!

where do I sign up to have my motor built by jesus?! :lmao:

jerseyef9
06-14-2011, 05:18 PM
lol so now we have this ghost of nyc. he's all knowing, has more ability than anyone around, his identity is a mystery to most, and he has a bunch of die hard followers. OMG it must be JESUS CHRIST! he's back and building Honda's!

where do I sign up to have my motor built by jesus?! :lmao:





:yourock::yay: you are my fucking hero moseley can i be like you one day

MidnightAuto
06-14-2011, 05:28 PM
Im not gonna read through all of this all Im gonna say is maybe the reason you guys havent been able to reach some of the goals that other people in other states have is because you guys are so small minded. So what if you dont know ghostofnyc, you also dont know what he has done.. You guys need to start opening your mind up to things going on outside of Georgia, and maybe you wouldnt find this stuff so hard to believe. Because IT IS HAPPENING..... I told you Im gonna prove it to you just give us time, we havent even opened yet. With that said CARRY ONNNNN.

stretch
06-14-2011, 05:35 PM
oh, and by the way vtecckidd, i know we cool and all but im almost taking to take offense to all this NYC shit u talking.... we are talking about cars not cities, and irep my city hard. so plz im asking u to ease of the NYC bullshit sir .. thanx....CARRY ON

jerseyef9
06-14-2011, 05:38 PM
oh, and by the way vtecckidd, i know we cool and all but im almost talking to take offense to all this NYC shit u talking.... we are talking about cars not cities, and irep my city hard. so plz im asking u to ease of the NYC bullshit sir .. thanx....CARRY ON

word
pedo speaking in this hoe lol

stretch
06-14-2011, 05:39 PM
lol so now we have this ghost of nyc. he's all knowing, has more ability than anyone around, his identity is a mystery to most, and he has a bunch of die hard followers. OMG it must be JESUS CHRIST! he's back and building Honda's!

where do I sign up to have my motor built by jesus?! :lmao:

well moseley not for nothing, but, u dont know ghostofnyc so u cant assume he doesnt know wat he is talking about cause he does.... he has been around for a very very very very long time and he has also been around and worked with the best of them in NYC... so im not defending him cause he can defend himself, but yall shouldnt jump the gun at something or someone u dont know

Moseley
06-14-2011, 05:42 PM
well I never said shit about "getting it done in GA"... so when you say "you guys are so small minded" I hope you aren't referring to me. You have to realize how clowny it is to have some random guy come into a thread and start talking shit like this when 90% of the people on here have no idea who he is.

there's a lot better ways to earn respect if that is what he is after.

As far as the other states thing goes, I don't think there's any voodoo here in GA but it is humid and fairly high altitude in areas. Maybe that comes out to .1 or .2 in the 1/4 and a couple of mph trap speed. With that being said I think there are some fast cars here already. Don't expect to make a stock K run 11.60 down here like it can at sea level in dry air. and look at your uncorrected #s on the dyno because they probably suck and SAE power doesn't drive a car down a track.

ghostofnyc
06-14-2011, 05:43 PM
tdurr and vteckidd you KIDS are great I strive to be just like you two almighty honda guru's

ghostofnyc
06-14-2011, 05:54 PM
Entertainment for me at work I love it. You guys are right I know nothing about cars I have a bus pass. What is this nitrous stuff that you speak of.

ghostofnyc
06-14-2011, 05:56 PM
Whats good stretch been awhile since I last saw you

ghostofnyc
06-14-2011, 06:17 PM
lol so now we have this ghost of nyc. he's all knowing, has more ability than anyone around, his identity is a mystery to most, and he has a bunch of die hard followers. OMG it must be JESUS CHRIST! he's back and building Honda's!

where do I sign up to have my motor built by jesus?! :lmao:

Really when did I say I was all knowing and have more ability than anyone around I don't remember that part hummm. Must be the old age getting to me, Moseley I don't know you or who you are either but I don't care if you dont know me or if you like me really I could give two shits this is the internet and a public forum so like I said to your butt buddy vteckidd if you don't like what I have to say hit exit or back button ummmm kay.

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 06:30 PM
I'm at the gym , expect a nice response when I get home.

The hypocrisy is so funny

tdurr
06-14-2011, 06:48 PM
i bet you my car title there is nothing vteckidd can buy that ghost cant put together and bust his ass
i dont hate no1 i just state facts matter fact i run with your accord if u want me to hate you dig lmk whats up buddy

Rofl. That is the stupidest statement I have ever heard any car guy say. Do u not know the golden rule, there is always someone faster. But I never talked down on ur NYC or ghostofny. I just said he sounded dumb in that lil argument. He had no point but "fuel"
I hate no1 unless they talk shit like chustion lol. But if u REALLY wanna run me cuz I said ur buddy couldn't argue lmk. I gotta fix some stuff but I'll make u think twice bout ur shit talkin ;)


tdurr and vteckidd you KIDS are great I strive to be just like you two almighty honda guru's

And pump ur brakes there. I never said I knew anything bout anything or anything to give u that idea. So don't start ur pointless shit talkin either.

Kthxbai

jerseyef9
06-14-2011, 07:02 PM
Rofl. That is the stupidest statement I have ever heard any car guy say. Do u not know the golden rule, there is always someone faster. But I never talked down on ur NYC or ghostofny. I just said he sounded dumb in that lil argument. He had no point but "fuel"
I hate no1 unless they talk shit like chustion lol. But if u REALLY wanna run me cuz I said ur buddy couldn't argue lmk. I gotta fix some stuff but I'll make u think twice bout ur shit talkin ;)



And pump ur brakes there. I never said I knew anything bout anything or anything to give u that idea. So don't start ur pointless shit talkin either.

Kthxbai

i will continue talking shit
oh you wanna be big and bad let me finish my other set up we can run for cash lmk what you wanna do buddy
oh yeah make me stop talking shit buddy im not the one bruh so watch your tone with me boy
im done talking i will let the cars talk for themselves

Moseley
06-14-2011, 07:07 PM
Really when did I say I was all knowing and have more ability than anyone around I don't remember that part hummm. Must be the old age getting to me, Moseley I don't know you or who you are either but I don't care if you dont know me or if you like me really I could give two shits this is the internet and a public forum so like I said to your butt buddy vteckidd if you don't like what I have to say hit exit or back button ummmm kay.

lol vteckidd and I were at each other's necks last year so you don't even know wtf you are talking about.

just because I take up the same position as him then that makes us in this together? please...

So what's your name, where's your car... and who'd you build motors for?


JESUS BUILT
have faith in your fuel

DarKStaR
06-14-2011, 07:20 PM
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silversol
06-14-2011, 07:35 PM
All I have seen from Nyc Is talk plain and simple. Vteckidd put is money up seems no one wants to put there 250whp na b series on the dyno and take his money. Nope they just want to talk about how its done in nyc! News flash your not in nyc anymore!

*EFilliated*
06-14-2011, 07:57 PM
did u also kno that car is missing a $600 clutch kit, u gonna cough that up to so yall can be proven wrong? thats what i thought, dont talk if u dont kno the situation. :goodjob:


All I have seen from Nyc Is talk plain and simple. Vteckidd put is money up seems no one wants to put there 250whp na b series on the dyno and take his money. Nope they just want to talk about how its done in nyc! News flash your not in nyc anymore!

silversol
06-14-2011, 07:58 PM
did u also kno that car is missing a $600 clutch kit, u gonna cough that up to so yall can be proven wrong? thats what i thought, dont talk if u dont kno the situation. :goodjob:

It takes weeks to get a clutch kit in the mail?????

*EFilliated*
06-14-2011, 08:00 PM
sorry we dont all shit bricks like silversol, we all have a life aside from cars also :goodjob:


It takes weeks to get a clutch kit in the mail?????

stretch
06-14-2011, 08:03 PM
All I have seen from Nyc Is talk plain and simple. Vteckidd put is money up seems no one wants to put there 250whp na b series on the dyno and take his money. Nope they just want to talk about how its done in nyc! News flash your not in nyc anymore!

man go sit ur ass down somewhere. u see cool people arguing here u sticking ur nose in.... unlike most other people we came out and raced. where were u....... we have a 250 b series car right here in GA that just needs the clutch replaced, but we are setting up shop so dont really care to do that right now as we have more important things to take care of buddy..... u hear us talk but u never seen us back down from NOBODY on this site, period............. we sure aint claiming to be the fastest, and if other people on here that has seen our work wanna give us prop, i cant stop them n i will gladly accept it cause we work hard at this shit...... when people come on here and talk about mainstream , balance and all the other shop u dont see us calling them groupies, cause they rep who they want. so next time? be a part of an entire thread before u step in where u dont belong buddy................ im out

silversol
06-14-2011, 08:06 PM
sorry we dont all shit bricks like silversol, we all have a life aside from cars also :goodjob:

Any one that knows me knows I have been inthe hospital for the past few months cars are the last thing on my mind i do have a project in the works but im not going to run my mouth about a car thats down or not ready. If you cant pay to play then you dont play.

silversol
06-14-2011, 08:13 PM
man go sit ur ass down somewhere. u see cool people arguing here u sticking ur nose in.... unlike most other people we came out and raced. where were u....... we have a 250 b series car right here in GA that just needs the clutch replaced, but we are setting up shop so dont really care to do that right now as we have more important things to take care of buddy..... u hear us talk but u never seen us back down from NOBODY on this site, period............. we sure aint claiming to be the fastest, and if other people on here that has seen our work wanna give us prop, i cant stop them n i will gladly accept it cause we work hard at this shit...... when people come on here and talk about mainstream , balance and all the other shop u dont see us calling them groupies, cause they rep who they want. so next time? be a part of an entire thread before u step in where u dont belong buddy................ im out

Why all the hate? why do you got to talk like your the shit becase your from Nyc big deal. If your setting up shop it should be important to get the car out there and getting you name out there not let it sit needing a clutch? come one man with a lift thats a hour job. You will not here me prazing any shop I moved to real cars not hondas I keep my honda for a gas saver.

*EFilliated*
06-14-2011, 08:14 PM
and if u knew anything about what has gone down in this thread this whole bseries HP BS was settled like 3weeks ago, Jesus vteckidd on the other hand likes the attention hints y he has brought old shit back into play cause he sleeps lonely at night and needs attention on IA. anything else silversol? on the other hand Y are U talking about shit u dont kno? wats up wit the whole NYC guys this and that, our Bseries has been in GA for a more than a year and yes it has made it out to import showdown and competed. wat u gonna come up with now?


Any one that knows me knows I have been inthe hospital for the past few months cars are the last thing on my mind i do have a project in the works but im not going to run my mouth about a car thats down or not ready. If you cant pay to play then you dont play.

stretch
06-14-2011, 08:15 PM
Any one that knows me knows I have been inthe hospital for the past few months cars are the last thing on my mind i do have a project in the works but im not going to run my mouth about a car thats down or not ready. If you cant pay to play then you dont play.

and because i know that i left u alone from the last smart comment u made weeks ago.... i even told ur boy Jordan JJ Gravelle that i wasnt gonna fucc with u outa respect for u and ur incident....... but stop coming out ur face when u only know half the story and little u know that we are cool with moseley, vtecckidd,1 civic , etc............... so this is just heated car talk
as for the 250 b series car, the owner just bought a house so u tell me if a clutch is more important that getting ur car together to prove hp to someone...... we are almost done setting up, and when we done its watever, trust me

stretch
06-14-2011, 08:19 PM
Why all the hate? why do you got to talk like your the shit becase your from Nyc big deal. If your setting up shop it should be important to get the car out there and getting you name out there not let it sit needing a clutch? come one man with a lift thats a hour job. You will not here me prazing any shop I moved to real cars not hondas I keep my honda for a gas saver.

like i just stated, the 250 hpp bseries car is a customers car and he just bought a house and is dealing with that right now, hence why we told vtecckidd WEEKS AGO that we will take him up on his offer but just give us a minute to finish wat we doing..... see if u were following the thread u wouldve known that buddy.....
also u should have read a couple post before this and from the beginning that we are not claiming to be the best, but we are relevant and we are looking to make racing nice in georgia, with the help from fellow georgians of course... but once again u werent following the thread so u wouldnt know

silversol
06-14-2011, 08:21 PM
and because i know that i left u alone from the last smart comment u made weeks ago.... i even told ur boy Jordan JJ Gravelle that i wasnt gonna fucc with u outa respect for u and ur incident....... but stop coming out ur face when u only know half the story and little u know that we are cool with moseley, vtecckidd,1 civic , etc............... so this is just heated car talk
as for the 250 b series car, the owner just bought a house so u tell me if a clutch is more important that getting ur car together to prove hp to someone...... we are almost done setting up, and when we done its watever, trust me

Fuck with me for what talk? Pot calling the kettle black, told you when your ready for domestics I will be ready didnt I? Some people take the internet way to serious, If you have been in the raceing game so long you should have thick skin to talk especially being from Ny.

silversol
06-14-2011, 08:25 PM
I would also like to see this 250+ whp na bseries not shit talking just being honest if it makes it my hats off to you!

Moseley
06-14-2011, 08:34 PM
someone better take the bet... its mainstream's dyno after all. if you make 235 SAE anywhere else you might make 250 there lol.

I remember a year ago when my car was "invited" (more like called out) to see if it could break 218whp on that dyno ;)

...and I want to line up with the first B to break 250 there. K powa!

*EFilliated*
06-14-2011, 08:36 PM
lol yea i dont think u ready for this B. just saying. but then again well c what happens when the time comes


someone better take the bet... its mainstream's dyno after all. if you make 235 SAE anywhere else you might make 250 there lol.

I remember a year ago when my car was "invited" (more like called out) to see if it could break 218whp on that dyno ;)

...and I want to line up with the first B to break 250 there. K powa!

1civic
06-14-2011, 08:36 PM
I would also like to see this 250+ whp na bseries not shit talking just being honest if it makes it my hats off to you!

I'm almost ready to post a dyno sheet and collect 100 bones!! :crazy:

LOL

silversol
06-14-2011, 08:39 PM
I'm almost ready to post a dyno sheet and collect 100 bones!! :crazy:

LOL

From mainstreams dyno? Im sure he is going to want to be there to see it, and im sure you will want him there to collect the money from him correct?

gforce71
06-14-2011, 08:39 PM
LOL, its gotten interesting up in here!

DeeAOne
06-14-2011, 08:41 PM
LOL, its gotten interesting up in here!

It has. I'm enjoying all the shit talking. Lol

gforce71
06-14-2011, 08:45 PM
I'm just wondering since alot of all motor guys have shown up, where are the turbo people? haha

Moseley
06-14-2011, 08:50 PM
lol yea i dont think u ready for this B. just saying. but then again well c what happens when the time comes

yep we'll see. What about your car though? still want to run on street tires?

DeeAOne
06-14-2011, 08:53 PM
They are too busy trying to keep them running. Lol

I just think all motor is where the competition is right now, leaving the turbo guys to have no one to run with, so they stop posting.

Moseley
06-14-2011, 08:55 PM
btw EFiliated... you mentioned stock cars not running 13.4... when my hatch was first done in '06... it ran a 13.4 @ 105 on street tires. bone stock K20a2, stock RBB intake manifold, base map from kpro with a lame A/F tune. basically a header and 2.5" crush bent exhaust dropped in the car and nothing else. full interior too. I hope you have something for this K with all that big talk!

gforce71
06-14-2011, 08:55 PM
I agree DeeAOne, it sucks. lol

1civic
06-14-2011, 08:58 PM
From mainstreams dyno? Im sure he is going to want to be there to see it, and im sure you will want him there to collect the money from him correct?

Doesnt really matter to me, I just know that their are some 250+hp B series here... :goodjob:

DeeAOne
06-14-2011, 08:59 PM
I agree DeeAOne, it sucks. lol

Join us! Who wants to wait for the power to come in anyway? By then its already too late. Lol

*EFilliated*
06-14-2011, 09:03 PM
yea definetley, i wanna see if i can hang with my stock motor. i live in NC so its kinda hard for me to get it done faster. if everything goes as planned i will be there the 23rd to finish it. and by street tires we are on the same page about STREET and not RADIALS correct? and when have i said i was fast? sry never have


yep we'll see. What about your car though? still want to run on street tires?

Moseley
06-14-2011, 09:05 PM
yea definetley, i wanna see if i can hang with my stock motor. i live in NC so its kinda hard for me to get it done faster. if everything goes as planned i will be there the 23rd to finish it. and by street tires we are on the same page about STREET and not RADIALS correct?

ok but if you saw my street tires you might cry. I don't run 205s lol

gforce71
06-14-2011, 09:07 PM
Join us! Who wants to wait for the power to come in anyway? By then its already too late. Lol

lol, boost is just to much fun!

*EFilliated*
06-14-2011, 09:11 PM
lol well damn, its watever well c if i can hang, if not no biggie, cnt expect much from a bone stock motor


ok but if you saw my street tires you might cry. I don't run 205s lol

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 09:17 PM
I'm almost ready to post a dyno sheet and collect 100 bones!! :crazy:

LOL

learn to read. no one wants a dyno sheet, i want to see it.

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 09:19 PM
Doesnt really matter to me, I just know that their are some 250+hp B series here... :goodjob:

THen bring that shit out QUIT TALKING AND BRING IT OUT THIS WEEK.

which one is it, is it BEING BUILT or are there plenty of them around?

Quit fucking stalling you cant have it both ways. BRING THAT CAR OUT OR SHUT THE FUCK UP

DeeAOne
06-14-2011, 09:20 PM
Oh snap!

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 09:21 PM
i know for fact ghostofnyc built more motors then vteck bought just sayin g
oh look the same old retarded argument all the haters use.

Listen dumbass, are you going to tell your CUSTOMERS that? Is Midnight gonna tell their customers "let me build your motor but youre a loser cause you have to have me do it"

get real.

SO i didnt build my 240whp motor, SO WHAT. Its still more power than ANY of you have made and i say that because i can PROVE IT. it existed, it dynoed it ran it street raced.

all the rest is a bunch of shit talking from a bunch of cheerleaders

stretch
06-14-2011, 09:22 PM
I would also like to see this 250+ whp na bseries not shit talking just being honest if it makes it my hats off to you!

when things slow down we will finish it... shit is just crazy right now... but have dyno sheets and graph to prove it... but like yall said the air is different up here right, so we will see wat it does...also yall want it on mainstream dyno so we will do it and see wat it does... but like i said , when we done setting up and open then we worry about that.
the shit talking is not wat i was tight at u about, its when i got banned and u said some shit about it i got tight...fyi

1civic
06-14-2011, 09:22 PM
THen bring that shit out QUIT TALKING AND BRING IT OUT THIS WEEK.

which one is it, is it BEING BUILT or are there plenty of them around?

Quit fucking stalling you cant have it both ways. BRING THAT CAR OUT OR SHUT THE FUCK UP


First track appearance Friday!! I don't expect much, only to have fun!!

I'll run the RSX anytime of the week if that will satisfy you master!!

Later!!!

Moseley
06-14-2011, 09:24 PM
I'll run the RSX anytime of the week if that will satisfy you master!!

Later!!!

Damn what does the RSX have to do with this? LOL

1civic
06-14-2011, 09:25 PM
Damn what does the RSX have to do with this? LOL

Well, I figured a revenge to my loss.. THEN RUN YOU FRIDAY CRACKA!!

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 09:27 PM
First track appearance Friday!! I don't expect much, only to have fun!!

I'll run the RSX anytime of the week if that will satisfy you master!!

Later!!!
Are you stupid.

I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WHAT IT RUNS AT THE TRACK, YOU WANT TO TALK WHP NUMBERS< THEN COME BACK UP THE WHP CLAIMS. ITS SIMPLE.

BRING IT TO MAINSTREAM ANY DAY THIS WEEK AND RUN IT ON THEIR DYNO.

YOU REALLY THINK THAT MOTOR YOU GOT FROM SWEET CHEEKS IS GOING TO BUST 250? ITS A DON MOTOR BOBBY.

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 09:29 PM
when things slow down we will finish it... shit is just crazy right now... but have dyno sheets and graph to prove it... but like yall said the air is different up here right, so we will see wat it does...also yall want it on mainstream dyno so we will do it and see wat it does... but like i said , when we done setting up and open then we worry about that.
the shit talking is not wat i was tight at u about, its when i got banned and u said some shit about it i got tight...fyi
WAIT which is it.

Is it done or not? Does it run now or not? Bobby says there are multiple cars running around, now you guys say "oh it runs, just not right now"

and now its "oh it dynoed in NY not here".

You guys need to get your stories straight.

I WAS CLEAR. I WANT TO SEE A 250whp IN GEORGIA. YOU GUYS DO NOT HAVE IT. PERIOD. IF IT HAS NOT DYNOED HERE THEN IT DOESNT EXIST IN GEORGIA.

How can you not see that LOL. THats like me making 250 on Churchs dyno and acting like its the same here. HAHA

do you guys compare all tracks the same way too regardless of location?

laughable

1civic
06-14-2011, 09:31 PM
Are you stupid.

I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WHAT IT RUNS AT THE TRACK, YOU WANT TO TALK WHP NUMBERS< THEN COME BACK UP THE WHP CLAIMS. ITS SIMPLE.

BRING IT TO MAINSTREAM ANY DAY THIS WEEK AND RUN IT ON THEIR DYNO.

YOU REALLY THINK THAT MOTOR YOU GOT FROM SWEET CHEEKS IS GOING TO BUST 250? ITS A DON MOTOR BOBBY.


WOW, where did you get your info? I've got a LS/V!!!

Moseley
06-14-2011, 09:33 PM
Well, I figured a revenge to my loss.. THEN RUN YOU FRIDAY CRACKA!!

I hope you don't try to come out on those ET streets!

1civic
06-14-2011, 09:35 PM
I hope you don't try to come out on those ET streets!

Naw, i'll use them for roll racing!!

*EFilliated*
06-14-2011, 09:40 PM
:lmfao:


WAIT which is it.

Is it done or not? Does it run now or not? Bobby says there are multiple cars running around, now you guys say "oh it runs, just not right now"

and now its "oh it dynoed in NY not here".

You guys need to get your stories straight.

I WAS CLEAR. I WANT TO SEE A 250whp IN GEORGIA. YOU GUYS DO NOT HAVE IT. PERIOD. IF IT HAS NOT DYNOED HERE THEN IT DOESNT EXIST IN GEORGIA.

How can you not see that LOL. THats like me making 250 on Churchs dyno and acting like its the same here. HAHA

do you guys compare all tracks the same way too regardless of location?

laughable

stretch
06-14-2011, 09:42 PM
WAIT which is it.

Is it done or not? Does it run now or not? Bobby says there are multiple cars running around, now you guys say "oh it runs, just not right now"

and now its "oh it dynoed in NY not here".

You guys need to get your stories straight.

I WAS CLEAR. I WANT TO SEE A 250whp IN GEORGIA. YOU GUYS DO NOT HAVE IT. PERIOD. IF IT HAS NOT DYNOED HERE THEN IT DOESNT EXIST IN GEORGIA.

How can you not see that LOL. THats like me making 250 on Churchs dyno and acting like its the same here. HAHA

do you guys compare all tracks the same way too regardless of location?

laughable

LISTEN TO ME AND LISTEN TO ME GOOD......... the all motor b series is a customer car and he is on the forum in this thread. the car needs a clutch which he is now getting, but he just bought a house and he doesnt have time for this right now. also as YOU know we are trying to finish set up so we dont really have time to do the car just to prove to you.... so make this official.... WE WILL TAKE U UP ON UR OFFER FOR A ALL MOTOR B SERIES MAKING 250HP.......... BUT IT WILL BE AFTER WE FINISH TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS................ U OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW ITS BUSINESS FIRST....
now the next thing vtecckidd, bobby speaks for himself. when u talk with bobby im sure u see bobby speaking for himself, so u shouldnt take wat bobby says and throw it over at me saying im beating around the bush... bobby talking about his car cause he got it done now i believe... we are talking about a totally different call that we built and tuned.... bobby is our friend yes and we back him up in time of need, but in this forum he is talking about his car........... the car is up and running it just needs a clutch... the car was dynoed in NY and hasnt been dynoed here as yet, hence why i said we will finish it, strap it up and see wat it does

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 09:45 PM
Ok hold onto your hats lets get this all over with. Concerning the NITROUS TALK. Lets see what i said


Sorry kid most people dont run nitrous on their hondas the RIGHT way, and because of that it is inconsistent and i stand by my statement.


You are a funny KID yes fuel is the key did I say what kind of fuel no I didn't just like you can't make 800whp on pump in a boosted honda it takes know how with a nitrous car to run big shots. Yes consistancy is key with nitrous but bottle warmers, equal flow distribution blocks, and dedicated fuel or dry systems all work together for n20 consistancy. As for dyno numbers I could care less as long as the car is trapping consistant mph I know what power its making.
ISNT THAT EXACTLY WHAT I FUCKING SAID IN THE FIRST PLACE>???????

Furthermore i dont GIVE respect to some jackass that comes on IA and his first post is "SMH". Even further i could give two shits what hes done in NYC, NEWSFLASH PEOPLE THIS ISNT NEW YORK. YOU ARE IN OUR SANDBOX NOW. I dont go to NYC and proclaim to know everything about the NYC street racing and import culture, dont come to Atlanta and act like you are gods gift to imports.

All i have heard is talk talk talk talk talk. NYC2ATL has been here for more than a year so if this car that makes 250whp REALLY DOES EXIST it should be SIMPLE to produce. Bring it out, strap it down, dyno it, case closed. Whats the hold up?

I mean you guys talk about street racing, but bobby runs his mouth and his cars been down for months, the K24 hatch took 4 hours after a callout to get an axle, this magical other car is down now because of a clutch. I mean a clutch is a 1 hour job? you guys cant find 1 hour to put it together? Your dyno is in, i didnt see 45 cars in the parking lot you cant be that busy? is the car even IN GA?

All im saying is you guys want respect, but you dont want to earn it. You just want everyone to be like OMG YOU GUYS ARE FROM NY YOU GET INSTANT AWESOMENESS. But when guys like me and chunky, guys that have been here for 10+ years in ATLANTA, you guys want to act like we dont know what WE are talking about. Well respect goes both ways guys. YOu gotta give it to earn it.

Stretch youre a nice guy, doesnt mean im not gonna disagree with you. Doesnt mean im not gonna say what i wanna say. I dont keep my mouth shut for anyone. That i promise you. I dont expect any different from you. Doesnt mean i hate you or anything.

If you guys rep NY so bad, WHY ARE YOU IN ATL? I could care less about the city rivalries, this isnt a Young Jeezy video im not "reppin" anything.

SO lets recap:

1) What i said about nitrous was that most people dont run it correctly, dont spend the money to do it right, and it blows motors up. WHich is EXACTLY what your cheerleader came in here to say , AFTER he was super condescending hiding behind his screename.

2) This 250whp B Series NA motor DOESNT EXIST IN GA, IT HASNT DYNOED IN GA , YOU DONT KNOW WHAT ITS GOING TO MAKE IN GA. SO stop acting like its here. WHen it makes it, ill be the first to pay up, and first to say "AWESOME". but until that happens, i stand by my statement and bobby can honestly run his mouth all he wants we all know the score now

3) To the little cheerleader kids, no one gives a shit what you say.

4) The problem you guys have with me is im not afraid to say im not impressed, or say my opinion. You guys obviously arent used to that. Well sorry, its the way i am.

5) This whole "bought" vs "built" is bullshit. DONT BRING IT UP AGAIN it just shows how absolutely retarded you guys are who do mention it. Once again, ive worked on plenty of cars , i CHOSE to have someone BETTER than me build my RACE ENGINE. SO THE FUCK WHAT. You guys RUN A SHOP, you realise you DEPEND on people to have YOU Perform work because THEY CANT. So are you going to chastize all your customers too? didnt think so, so dont do it to me.

6) I have nothing to do in the street racing scene anymore but hang out. But your on a forum ive been on for 10+ years, and helped grow, pay for, advertise on , etc. SO sorry, this is my pond. I will voice my opinion. I would expect the same if i went on a NY forum.

7) I had plenty of beef with Mosely last year, we met up, he accepted my challenge, he dynoed, i bought him, matt and luis dinner afterwards, and that was that. Im not too proud to admit i was wrong, or have a debate or discussion with people. But difference between Mosely and me is he taught me some things, and i explained some things to him. We were both willing to hear the other side, and if we disagree, so be it.

SO this "small minded" argument frankly is a copout from someone who is afraid of proving me wrong. No one is saying morris sucks or cant tune or anything of that nature. WHat we are saying is, whatever your resume is in NY, means nothing here. and vice versa. So instead of making claims, make HP. Cause right now all i see is a bunch of talk, not a lot of action, and no one taking me up on any bet at all.

Atlanta is just as good as NYC. We have guys making the power they make up there. Scotty has tuned 1000+cars, hes making 800+whp on stovers car. so i dont buy this "we dont know what we are doing we must have the NY guys show us" bullshit.

ANd thats the bottom line.

*EFilliated*
06-14-2011, 09:53 PM
:lmfao::lmfao: how many times u gotta repeat ur self. dis ***** dont listen


LISTEN TO ME AND LISTEN TO ME GOOD......... the all motor b series is a customer car and he is on the forum in this thread. the car needs a clutch which he is now getting, but he just bought a house and he doesnt have time for this right now. also as YOU know we are trying to finish set up so we dont really have time to do the car just to prove to you.... so make this official.... WE WILL TAKE U UP ON UR OFFER FOR A ALL MOTOR B SERIES MAKING 250HP.......... BUT IT WILL BE AFTER WE FINISH TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS................ U OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW ITS BUSINESS FIRST....
now the next thing vtecckidd, bobby speaks for himself. when u talk with bobby im sure u see bobby speaking for himself, so u shouldnt take wat bobby says and throw it over at me saying im beating around the bush... bobby talking about his car cause he got it done now i believe... we are talking about a totally different call that we built and tuned.... bobby is our friend yes and we back him up in time of need, but in this forum he is talking about his car........... the car is up and running it just needs a clutch... the car was dynoed in NY and hasnt been dynoed here as yet, hence why i said we will finish it, strap it up and see wat it does

1civic
06-14-2011, 09:56 PM
WOW, My car was just running to race a RSX, I then pulled the head two weeks later to be fixed and found another problem.. Car was down 2 weeks max!!

It has a street tune, and will soon see a dyno.. One part of me wants to rub it in, but really the true side of me could careless.. I've never been one to brag about dyno numbers, do they really matter?

Black4DrEK
06-14-2011, 09:58 PM
DAMN!

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 09:59 PM
Two weeks ago Bobby we were standing in the parkinglot of midnight auto.

Your car has been down far linger than that. It's been down since before the last event.

You cannot say "I don't care about dyno numbers" then in the same breath USE DYNO NUMBERS TO BRAG.

If I did that shit you would laugh me off the forum.

Prove it big man. Otherwise quit quoting numbers because it HASN'T EVEN BEEN ON A DYNO YET

Moseley
06-14-2011, 09:59 PM
SO lets recap:

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BOOM FIREWORKS!

:couch:

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 10:00 PM
And if it dynos and makes 250whp, CONGRATS!

But don't put the cart before the horse. All I'm saying

Moseley
06-14-2011, 10:01 PM
does it take more horsepower to push a cart or pull a cart :thinking:

stretch
06-14-2011, 10:03 PM
Ok hold onto your hats lets get this all over with. Concerning the NITROUS TALK. Lets see what i said




ISNT THAT EXACTLY WHAT I FUCKING SAID IN THE FIRST PLACE>???????

Furthermore i dont GIVE respect to some jackass that comes on IA and his first post is "SMH". Even further i could give two shits what hes done in NYC, NEWSFLASH PEOPLE THIS ISNT NEW YORK. YOU ARE IN OUR SANDBOX NOW. I dont go to NYC and proclaim to know everything about the NYC street racing and import culture, dont come to Atlanta and act like you are gods gift to imports.

All i have heard is talk talk talk talk talk. NYC2ATL has been here for more than a year so if this car that makes 250whp REALLY DOES EXIST it should be SIMPLE to produce. Bring it out, strap it down, dyno it, case closed. Whats the hold up?

I mean you guys talk about street racing, but bobby runs his mouth and his cars been down for months, the K24 hatch took 4 hours after a callout to get an axle, this magical other car is down now because of a clutch. I mean a clutch is a 1 hour job? you guys cant find 1 hour to put it together? Your dyno is in, i didnt see 45 cars in the parking lot you cant be that busy? is the car even IN GA?

All im saying is you guys want respect, but you dont want to earn it. You just want everyone to be like OMG YOU GUYS ARE FROM NY YOU GET INSTANT AWESOMENESS. But when guys like me and chunky, guys that have been here for 10+ years in ATLANTA, you guys want to act like we dont know what WE are talking about. Well respect goes both ways guys. YOu gotta give it to earn it.

Stretch youre a nice guy, doesnt mean im not gonna disagree with you. Doesnt mean im not gonna say what i wanna say. I dont keep my mouth shut for anyone. That i promise you. I dont expect any different from you. Doesnt mean i hate you or anything.

If you guys rep NY so bad, WHY ARE YOU IN ATL? I could care less about the city rivalries, this isnt a Young Jeezy video im not "reppin" anything.

SO lets recap:

1) What i said about nitrous was that most people dont run it correctly, dont spend the money to do it right, and it blows motors up. WHich is EXACTLY what your cheerleader came in here to say , AFTER he was super condescending hiding behind his screename.

2) This 250whp B Series NA motor DOESNT EXIST IN GA, IT HASNT DYNOED IN GA , YOU DONT KNOW WHAT ITS GOING TO MAKE IN GA. SO stop acting like its here. WHen it makes it, ill be the first to pay up, and first to say "AWESOME". but until that happens, i stand by my statement and bobby can honestly run his mouth all he wants we all know the score now

3) To the little cheerleader kids, no one gives a shit what you say.

4) The problem you guys have with me is im not afraid to say im not impressed, or say my opinion. You guys obviously arent used to that. Well sorry, its the way i am.

5) This whole "bought" vs "built" is bullshit. DONT BRING IT UP AGAIN it just shows how absolutely retarded you guys are who do mention it. Once again, ive worked on plenty of cars , i CHOSE to have someone BETTER than me build my RACE ENGINE. SO THE FUCK WHAT. You guys RUN A SHOP, you realise you DEPEND on people to have YOU Perform work because THEY CANT. So are you going to chastize all your customers too? didnt think so, so dont do it to me.

6) I have nothing to do in the street racing scene anymore but hang out. But your on a forum ive been on for 10+ years, and helped grow, pay for, advertise on , etc. SO sorry, this is my pond. I will voice my opinion. I would expect the same if i went on a NY forum.

7) I had plenty of beef with Mosely last year, we met up, he accepted my challenge, he dynoed, i bought him, matt and luis dinner afterwards, and that was that. Im not too proud to admit i was wrong, or have a debate or discussion with people. But difference between Mosely and me is he taught me some things, and i explained some things to him. We were both willing to hear the other side, and if we disagree, so be it.

SO this "small minded" argument frankly is a copout from someone who is afraid of proving me wrong. No one is saying morris sucks or cant tune or anything of that nature. WHat we are saying is, whatever your resume is in NY, means nothing here. and vice versa. So instead of making claims, make HP. Cause right now all i see is a bunch of talk, not a lot of action, and no one taking me up on any bet at all.

Atlanta is just as good as NYC. We have guys making the power they make up there. Scotty has tuned 1000+cars, hes making 800+whp on stovers car. so i dont buy this "we dont know what we are doing we must have the NY guys show us" bullshit.

ANd thats the bottom line.

im not begging for ur respect sir... ur a cool guy in person too, but ur an asshole on the forums sometimes, much like myself so im cool with that..... but u keep going on and on about this when i set the record straight in my last text.... ur an ass for saying its all talk, WE callout moseley,and WE ran him didnt we...... we had a bad axle and instead of saying yow we cant do it, we had and axle brought here from lithonia just to honour the race, which was a fuccin fun ass race even with no traction.... so morris and i talk but we back it the fucc up vtecckidd... how dare u say some shit like that...... u came to our spot and saw we under construction..
the all motor b series is not our car so whenever the customer is ready to spend his hard earned money he will , which he just called me while im typing this saying all this shit talk got him tight so he ready.... so soon we will put the car on the dyno and see wat it does..... and cut the talk bout a clutch is a 1hr job cause we know that, its just that the car is in georgia but at the customers house til HE IS READY.....

*EFilliated*
06-14-2011, 10:08 PM
:yes:


im not begging for ur respect sir... ur a cool guy in person too, but ur an asshole on the forums sometimes, much like myself so im cool with that..... but u keep going on and on about this when i set the record straight in my last text.... ur an ass for saying its all talk, WE callout moseley,and WE ran him didnt we...... we had a bad axle and instead of saying yow we cant do it, we had and axle brought here from lithonia just to honour the race, which was a fuccin fun ass race even with no traction.... so morris and i talk but we back it the fucc up vtecckidd... how dare u say some shit like that...... u came to our spot and saw we under construction..
the all motor b series is not our car so whenever the customer is ready to spend his hard earned money he will , which he just called me while im typing this saying all this shit talk got him tight so he ready.... so soon we will put the car on the dyno and see wat it does..... and cut the talk bout a clutch is a 1hr job cause we know that, its just that the car is in georgia but at the customers house til HE IS READY.....

05dc5s
06-14-2011, 10:16 PM
Ok it's not the size of the shot just like with a turbo car not the size of turbo the key to making power and staying safe with N/A, Boost and Spray is fuel so if you provide adequate fuel for your goals it will be fine. Any car you build for performance will have variables so thats not a factor anyone who build's a performance car and expects it to do 200k miles is crazy. I have sprayed 150++ shots on STOCK bottom end B16's, GSR's, ITR's and H22's took motors apart to do maintenance and no issues no smoking nothing so with n20 you either know what your doing or you don't simple.

Ok here is the thing though. Nothing of what he said really warranted a SMH response IMHO. Nor did it disagree with what you said. So that is why I asked. What he said is true and nitrous simply isn't as stable or repeatable as a turbo. Does that mean it's wholly unsafe though? Does that mean nitrous cannot be done safely? No and he did not say that. Doest that mean that it cannot be controlled and done succesfully? No and he did not say that either.

While is true that any car you build will have variables and any car you build will almost certainly have a high exchange cost of durability for performance I think it would be very fair to say that with nitrous there is a finer line to be walking on compared to other things that can be done to a car i.e. a turbo, s/c, or a built motor. You dont agree there is a larger margin for error with those as compared to a nitrous car?

Your last comment actuall really solidifies this. If you either know what you're doing or you dont then wouldn't that mean you are walking a precarious line?

:cheers:

1civic
06-14-2011, 10:19 PM
Two weeks ago Bobby we were standing in the parkinglot of midnight auto.

Your car has been down far linger than that. It's been down since before the last event.

You cannot say "I don't care about dyno numbers" then in the same breath USE DYNO NUMBERS TO BRAG.

If I did that shit you would laugh me off the forum.

Prove it big man. Otherwise quit quoting numbers because it HASN'T EVEN BEEN ON A DYNO YET


Listen, I don't have to explain myself to you or anyone else.. BUT I do know this, you are not up on your info!!

05dc5s
06-14-2011, 10:24 PM
First track appearance Friday!! I don't expect much, only to have fun!!

I'll run the RSX anytime of the week if that will satisfy you master!!

Later!!!

What the hell does that fat and slow rsx have to do anything?

1civic
06-14-2011, 10:27 PM
What the hell does that fat and slow rsx have to do anything?

Re-run to redeem my status!!

05dc5s
06-14-2011, 10:31 PM
WOW, My car was just running to race a RSX, I then pulled the head two weeks later to be fixed and found another problem.. Car was down 2 weeks max!!

It has a street tune, and will soon see a dyno.. One part of me wants to rub it in, but really the true side of me could careless.. I've never been one to brag about dyno numbers, do they really matter?

So there won't be any excuses this time right B.O.B.?

05dc5s
06-14-2011, 10:32 PM
Re-run to redeem my status!!

Ok I told you that when I am up and running again I will run you. Haven't I?

1civic
06-14-2011, 10:33 PM
So there won't be any excuses this time right B.O.B.?

I didn't make any before.. 20-120, or dig, name the day!!

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 10:33 PM
Listen, I don't have to explain myself to you or anyone else.. BUT I do know this, you are not up on your info!!

Oh look same excuse as always.

This is getting boring now.

Step up or keep talking.

Either way pressure all on you now

05dc5s
06-14-2011, 10:37 PM
I didn't make any before.. 20-120, or dig, name the day!!

As I said we can sort out the specifics later when I have a car to run. And Bobby I know you think many of us are stupid but are you questioning our memories now? You did make excuses man. You would say no excuses and then makes pages of them. In fact you just did earlier a few posts up!

1civic
06-14-2011, 10:37 PM
Oh look same excuse as always.

This is getting boring now.

Step up or keep talking.

Either way pressure all on you now


No pressure on me, it is what it is.. Don't mainstreams dyno read high though?

bus-a-vtec
06-14-2011, 10:38 PM
stretch i thought u knew it HALF these of cats on here that jus like to flop there gums n take shit personal... AND AAH 112480 WASH YOUR MOUTH OUT WHEN YOUR DONE SUCKING OFF VTEKKID OR VICE VERSA...JUST A SUGGESTION....lol watch how much feedback i get now?

1civic
06-14-2011, 10:39 PM
As I said we can sort out the specifics later when I have a car to run. And Bobby I know you think many of us are stupid but are you questioning our memories now? You did make excuses man. You would say no excuses and then makes pages of them. In fact you just did earlier a few posts up!

Ok, I posted about the car smoking because I was asked.. Not an excuse, it was an argument with VtecFagg!!

Unless me saying you guys caught me slipping is an excuse.. Umm no, I said good race and gave you a hand shake!!

Nothing, I've posted was to be an excuse.. I did post facts since the motor was hurt, I only confirmed that when I pulled the head...

BUT, I'm not saying that is why you won.. You had the better car that night!! End of story!

I switched trannys and have a fresh motor, Figured it's worth a shot, that's why I ask..

05dc5s
06-14-2011, 10:43 PM
Ok, I posted about the car smoking because I was asked.. Not an excuse, it was an argument with VtecFagg!!

It was more than that but ok B.O.B.

EmminoDaGreat
06-14-2011, 10:45 PM
Mike the motor you're thinking of is in an eg, and another guy has it..

Ps.. Fuck this I'm from jersey....son....!

EmminoDaGreat
06-14-2011, 10:47 PM
Ps our dyno must read high, I put my car on there Saturday and it made more ;P must be the dyno, but ill take it ;)

tdurr
06-14-2011, 10:48 PM
i will continue talking shit
oh you wanna be big and bad let me finish my other set up we can run for cash lmk what you wanna do buddy
oh yeah make me stop talking shit buddy im not the one bruh so watch your tone with me boy
im done talking i will let the cars talk for themselves

Ahaahahahaha plz tell me ur running faster then u did at the track. I guess u dono who I is anymore... But I'll deff shut that na civic down.
And I'm not finishing my set up, I'm just fixing my cooling problems ;)
So in a month wanna run? We can have a few diff runs set up for other ppl too

1civic
06-14-2011, 10:48 PM
Ps our dyno must read high, I put my car on there Saturday and it made more ;P must be the dyno, but ill take it ;)

How much higher? 5-10%?

DeeAOne
06-14-2011, 10:50 PM
I just want to see some runs. Stop all the bickering. Lol

*EFilliated*
06-14-2011, 10:54 PM
lol be aware of wat u c. i dont think u ready for that black coupe. lol


Ahaahahahaha plz tell me ur running faster then u did at the track. I guess u dono who I is anymore... But I'll deff shut that na civic down.
And I'm not finishing my set up, I'm just fixing my cooling problems ;)
So in a month wanna run? We can have a few diff runs set up for other ppl too

05dc5s
06-14-2011, 11:01 PM
Ok, I posted about the car smoking because I was asked.. Not an excuse, it was an argument with VtecFagg!!

Unless me saying you guys caught me slipping is an excuse.. Umm no, I said good race and gave you a hand shake!!

Nothing, I've posted was to be an excuse.. I did post facts since the motor was hurt, I only confirmed that when I pulled the head...

BUT, I'm not saying that is why you won.. You had the better car that night!! End of story!

I switched trannys and have a fresh motor, Figured it's worth a shot, that's why I ask..

Fair enough and like I said we will run...unless of course you once again live up to your name B.O.B.

Moseley
06-14-2011, 11:04 PM
How much higher? 5-10%?

I thought you didn't care about dyno numbers! but I know you want to believe it is 10% high right?

is that because I made 240 there and you want to believe I only make a legit 216? lol

tdurr
06-14-2011, 11:05 PM
lol be aware of wat u c. i dont think u ready for that black coupe. lol


Hahaha u have no idea. I know that guy, and his car. Idk why he's tryin to chump me. But u guys dono wits done to my car or even wut motor I have so u beware of my pedocord ;)

1civic
06-14-2011, 11:05 PM
Fair enough and like I said we will run...unless of course you once again live up to your name B.O.B.

My shit could be slower, who knows!! It will always be slow, but I'll enjoy it!!

1civic
06-14-2011, 11:08 PM
I thought you didn't care about dyno numbers! but I know you want to believe it is 10% high right?

is that because I made 240 there and you want to believe I only make a legit 216? lol

I'd like to dig up post but it takes forever.. I keep hearing its higher, so lets get a ball park %...

Be funny to make 230 on Morris dyno then 240-50 on Mainstream in the same day.. Be hard with this heat, but fuck it's only a # right?

LOL

1civic
06-14-2011, 11:18 PM
Yeah I mean this was a long time ago. Here's why I think that way:

My 237whp Crx dynoed at mainstream at 10am, then I drove 10 miles to batlground for a "Honda tEch "meet and at 1115 I dynoed 228whp on their dyno

Shaggys itr eg made 172whp at balanced and 12 hours later made 185whp at mainstream

I've seen a ton of guys dyno higher at balanced that at mainstream

And I worked 3 years at mainstream and a year at batlground prob dynoed over 500-600 cars total.

But this was before MAINSTREAMS new dyno, and I haven't kept up with who makes what now and vice versa


Found a post!!!

So VtecKidd list a % higher on average!! I would like to crunch numbers :goodjob:

*EFilliated*
06-14-2011, 11:25 PM
:lmfao:


Hahaha u have no idea. I know that guy, and his car. Idk why he's tryin to chump me. But u guys dono wits done to my car or even wut motor I have so u beware of my pedocord ;)

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 11:29 PM
No way to really tell because too many variables and those are cars that dynoed on MAINSTREAMS old 2wd dyno.

And frankly I'm willing to concede the "possible" % higher if it's even true which I don't know haven't dynoed enough on thR new dyno.

So I will assume that all things remain equal.

If someone makes a legitimate 250whp STD On MAINSTREAMS dyno(yes STD) I will pay them $100. No excuses.

If it makes 250 on Morris dyno and 230 on mainstreams then I'm not paying but I will def say "nice motor"

If it makes 230 on Morris dyno but 250 on mainstreams I'll pay

stretch
06-14-2011, 11:33 PM
No way to really tell because too many variables and those are cars that dynoed on MAINSTREAMS old 2wd dyno.

And frankly I'm willing to concede the "possible" % higher if it's even true which I don't know haven't dynoed enough on thR new dyno.

So I will assume that all things remain equal.

If someone makes a legitimate 250whp STD On MAINSTREAMS dyno(yes STD) I will pay them $100. No excuses.

If it makes 250 on Morris dyno and 230 on mainstreams then I'm not paying but I will def say "nice motor"

If it makes 230 on Morris dyno but 250 on mainstreams I'll pay

who paying for the dyno time at mainstream

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 11:39 PM
If it makes 250whp me

If it doesn't you.

But it's like $50 for 3 pulls that should be all you need.

1civic
06-14-2011, 11:47 PM
If it makes 250whp me

If it doesn't you.

But it's like $50 for 3 pulls that should be all you need.

Are your going to boohoo about the set-up? Meth, water injection, c16, e85 etc?

Just wondering!! LOL

05dc5s
06-14-2011, 11:48 PM
No way to really tell because too many variables and those are cars that dynoed on MAINSTREAMS old 2wd dyno.

And frankly I'm willing to concede the "possible" % higher if it's even true which I don't know haven't dynoed enough on thR new dyno.

So I will assume that all things remain equal.

If someone makes a legitimate 250whp STD On MAINSTREAMS dyno(yes STD) I will pay them $100. No excuses.

If it makes 250 on Morris dyno and 230 on mainstreams then I'm not paying but I will def say "nice motor"

If it makes 230 on Morris dyno but 250 on mainstreams I'll pay

Wow Mike. Honestly I would love to see someone come take your money. :goodjob:

Vteckidd
06-14-2011, 11:57 PM
Are your going to boohoo about the set-up? Meth, water injection, c16, e85 etc?

Just wondering!! LOL

I'd prefer pump gas, but I'll allow c16 , it doesn't add that much power anyway.

All my numbers were quoted STD and so are almost any other numbers out of mainstream. So it's only fair I give them the same courtesy.

I made 240 on 93 octane if they need c16 to do the same so be it

1civic
06-15-2011, 12:13 AM
To bad it's not for more money, any more people want to add to the pot so it's worth the time? As soon as you make the pull everyone will start texting, then you will have to switch shells just to catch a race!! LMAO... Funny how news and rumors start to fly around, LOL at Mike thinking I bought a motor from a beaner!!.... That was to funny!!

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 12:37 AM
You have MY word that if you want the dyno secret I'll keep it that way.

I can even arrange it so it's on a day when no one is there, prob late at night.

But again that's a dumb argument. If you don't want people knowing your numbers why go around saying you make 250 or will make 250. Why not just say it "makes enough"

The whole issue of whp is because people from that camp claim it exists, my challenge is merely there to have them prove it in a dyno I trust.

Period.

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 12:39 AM
Not worth the time? It's a free $100, most of you guys race for FREE. This isn't even a race. It's a dyno pull.

tdurr
06-15-2011, 02:57 AM
:lmfao:

ur so foolish. it amuses me.

jerseyef9
06-15-2011, 09:15 AM
Ahaahahahaha plz tell me ur running faster then u did at the track. I guess u dono who I is anymore... But I'll deff shut that na civic down.
And I'm not finishing my set up, I'm just fixing my cooling problems ;)
So in a month wanna run? We can have a few diff runs set up for other ppl too




first off i cant drive and im slow cool glad you clear that up for me and everyone
i want you to shut down my N/A civic :yes:
making it clear dig for cash :2up:

DarKStaR
06-15-2011, 10:06 AM
calm down jersey, from what i read on fb his car might be stolen...

DarKStaR
06-15-2011, 10:09 AM
Everyone should know what car the midnight people are talking about......I do believe there is a car or 2 that will make 250 on a bseries on mainstreams dyno, i was going to try with my last setup but decided to go a different route. Lets stop the bickering and make something happen. Vteckidd is starting to write paragraphs like h22 jones lol.

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 10:29 AM
I made 237 on pump gas. I know what it takes to make 250whp IN GEORGIA, I don't believe it exists.

if it does, I'd love to see it, hence the dyno challenge.

What I won't accept is a bunch of ricer claims that it's out there but won't come forward, it's dynoed in NY, or it isn't ready, it's being built blah blah blah

Before my motor was done I didn't go around on forums claiming i made 240 , I only posted what my car made AFTER IT MADE IT.

If this car dynoed 250+ in ny, awesome. That's means nothing to me. My challenge is make a legit 250whp IN GEORGIA. I know how hard it is to dyno in GA. Which is why my challenge TAKES PLACE IN GA.

But it seems people are too Fucking stupid to understand that.

EmminoDaGreat
06-15-2011, 10:43 AM
Bobby my car made roughly 3% over the last numbers @ the same low boost setting (1 year ago on the same dyno.) Loose is fast!! and on the edge of outta control!

PS. I will donate the dyno for this cause.

DarKStaR
06-15-2011, 10:46 AM
There you have it folks ^^^^^

tdurr
06-15-2011, 11:10 AM
first off i cant drive and im slow cool glad you clear that up for me and everyone
i want you to shut down my N/A civic :yes:
making it clear dig for cash :2up:

why u mad bro?
lol if u cant drive why u want a dig? JW

calm down jersey, from what i read on fb his car might be stolen...

yup. sad day... bout to hit up a shady tow company and see if they dono wut a honda accord is...

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 11:21 AM
SMH at the stupidity in this thread.....

jerseyef9
06-15-2011, 12:01 PM
why u mad bro?
lol if u cant drive why u want a dig? JW



yup. sad day... bout to hit up a shady tow company and see if they dono wut a honda accord is...

like i said sir i will run you from a dig cause i cant drive
oh yeah im mad on a internet forum lmao this just something to do at work when it slow so...................am i really mad lmao smh
sorry about the stolen car and stop being butt hurt

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 12:44 PM
SMH at the stupidity in this thread.....

feelings mutual

ghostofnyc
06-15-2011, 12:54 PM
Ok here is the thing though. Nothing of what he said really warranted a SMH response IMHO. Nor did it disagree with what you said. So that is why I asked. What he said is true and nitrous simply isn't as stable or repeatable as a turbo. Does that mean it's wholly unsafe though? Does that mean nitrous cannot be done safely? No and he did not say that. Doest that mean that it cannot be controlled and done succesfully? No and he did not say that either.

While is true that any car you build will have variables and any car you build will almost certainly have a high exchange cost of durability for performance I think it would be very fair to say that with nitrous there is a finer line to be walking on compared to other things that can be done to a car i.e. a turbo, s/c, or a built motor. You dont agree there is a larger margin for error with those as compared to a nitrous car?

Your last comment actuall really solidifies this. If you either know what you're doing or you dont then wouldn't that mean you are walking a precarious line?

:cheers:
I was just going off what he said about stock motors where Morris disagreed as I do. For all the real tuner's out there they will tell you that it is possible to run 125-150 shots on stock block and yes fuel and tuning are the what keeps motors together. Since he claim the ringlands are so weak and etc etc what causes them to crack and break hummm detonation so if octane that is used is raised that will yeild a higher detonation point but again what do I know. I'm glad you said any car you build has variables thats so true say a turbo car with bad wg placement or a boost leak sound like variables to me but hay it is what it is. I prefer n20 car over a turbo car anyday Morris can tell you this, with nitrous cars thinking inside the box it seems like they have smaller margin for error but once you step out of the box and try different things the light comes on. Nitrous can be just as repeatable as a turbo car in my opinion from things I have tried and done along the way but opinions are like asshole everyone's got one.

05DC5 you seem like a aight guy :cheers:

top_speed
06-15-2011, 01:03 PM
Listen vteckidd and listen carefully

Car made 250+ in ny. Car is in georgia but currently down .. "I" will have car running soon.. Car needs a clutch kit.. I just purchased a home my family comes first if you or any1 cant understand my prioritys .. Then go kill yourself. So be patient i have no issues taking your challange on. Now that i owner of the car spoke should be no reason to keep going on and off about it.. Ill have midnight call u when we ready

ghostofnyc
06-15-2011, 01:05 PM
SMH at the stupidity in this thread.....

I agree

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 01:07 PM
Listen vteckidd and listen carefully

Car made 250+ in ny. Car is in georgia but currently down .. "I" will have car running soon.. Car needs a clutch kit.. I just purchased a home my family comes first if you or any1 cant understand my prioritys .. Then go kill yourself. So be patient i have no issues taking your challange on. Now that i owner of the car spoke should be no reason to keep going on and off about it.. Ill have midnight call u when we ready

congrats, that is not what was said over the last few months. Amazing how its taken 40+ pages and months to get someone to ACTUALLY volunteer the right information.

Your boys, and your shop were saying its been done, its been dynoed, its in GA blah blah blah. Thats not the case obviously.

Statements were made by morris, bobby, and effiliated that this car exists and has DYNOED IN GA. Obviously that was an exaggeration at the least, an outright lie at the most.

Ill be waiting.

ghostofnyc
06-15-2011, 01:12 PM
BTW vtecKID that wasn't my 1st post and if you look and read my sign up date is before Morris's. Do I know Morris yes I do he is basically family so no cheerleader BS here I give respect where respect is due with that said FUCK YOU and have a nice day

top_speed
06-15-2011, 01:14 PM
Car was dynoed in atl when he came to visit few months back.. Problem was bought a cc clutch kit and broke the pressure plate went back to cc they gave me a new kit installed it and car dynod in atl.. 2weeks later went to commerce and now car doesnt go into gears while car is on.. So im looking to go act now

ghostofnyc
06-15-2011, 01:22 PM
silversol really neg rep awww i'm gonna cry LMFAO

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 01:23 PM
Car was dynoed in atl when he came to visit few months back.. Problem was bought a cc clutch kit and broke the pressure plate went back to cc they gave me a new kit installed it and car dynod in atl.. 2weeks later went to commerce and now car doesnt go into gears while car is on.. So im looking to go act now

Why are we still explaining what doesnt need to be explained, in due time, he will get his proof until then let them get their panties all in a bunch... We know what's true so why worry about the ignorance of others..

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 01:26 PM
congrats, that is not what was said over the last few months. Amazing how its taken 40+ pages and months to get someone to ACTUALLY volunteer the right information.

Your boys, and your shop were saying its been done, its been dynoed, its in GA blah blah blah. Thats not the case obviously.

Statements were made by morris, bobby, and effiliated that this car exists and has DYNOED IN GA. Obviously that was an exaggeration at the least, an outright lie at the most.

Ill be waiting.

Keep waiting.....:screwy:

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 01:31 PM
Car was dynoed in atl when he came to visit few months back.. Problem was bought a cc clutch kit and broke the pressure plate went back to cc they gave me a new kit installed it and car dynod in atl.. 2weeks later went to commerce and now car doesnt go into gears while car is on.. So im looking to go act now

where did it dyno and what did it dyno.

These are your own peoples WORDS:


I do know a bunch of people don't care to post numbers!!!

I'm sure we have a few close to that 250 mark though.. ;)


you be surprise how many 250 bseries are acturally in ga :cry::bigsmilie


So the ORIGINAL statement by 2 shop cheerleaders are there are cars IN GEORGIA Making that power. I asked for proof. Then i got a bunch of condescending talk from Morris about how he has dyno charts to prove it, and how we are small minded and we must not know what we are doing because we arent in NYC. NYC is so much more superior.

Well if this car exists, BRING IT OUT. otherwise , its all BULLSHIT

stretch
06-15-2011, 01:31 PM
i think he is like this on purpose..... its impossible to be that slow....smfh

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 01:35 PM
Why are we still explaining what doesnt need to be explained, in due time, he will get his proof until then let them get their panties all in a bunch... We know what's true so why worry about the ignorance of others..

look im just pointing out how your cheerleaders are full of shit. Thats all. I was clear in my statment. You guys like to twist things around to fit YOUR narrative.

your cheerleaders say you have a 250whp B Series
I say i doubt it , not in GA
they say OH THERES SEVERAL CARS MAKING THAT POWER
i say prove it
you say i have dyno charts from NY, now from GA

fuck Stretch said YESTERDAY the car has NEVER DYNOED IN GA, now it has?

you guys all needt to take lessons in keeping a story straight.

DarKStaR
06-15-2011, 01:36 PM
You know what this thread needs......







More cowbell..
http://www.altnation.com/forums/attachments/music-equipment-tech-talk/68397d1192332707-yas-i-need-more-cowbell-more_cowbell.jpg

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 01:38 PM
look im just pointing out how your cheerleaders are full of shit. Thats all. I was clear in my statment. You guys like to twist things around to fit YOUR narrative.

your cheerleaders say you have a 250whp B Series
I say i doubt it , not in GA
they say OH THERES SEVERAL CARS MAKING THAT POWER
i say prove it
you say i have dyno charts from NY, now from GA

fuck Stretch said YESTERDAY the car has NEVER DYNOED IN GA, now it has?

you guys all needt to take lessons in keeping a story straight.

Well you know what Mike, I want to see proof you made 237 and I dont want a dyno sheet or a vid I want to see it make it in front of me... Or I dont believe it.... LMAO Come on man stop it. I said you would get proof so leave it at that. Im not rushing for you.

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 01:39 PM
So which one is it guys, sounds like either your customer doesnt know whats going on or YOU dont know whats going on


LISTEN TO ME AND LISTEN TO ME GOOD......... the all motor b series is a customer car and he is on the forum in this thread. the car needs a clutch which he is now getting, but he just bought a house and he doesnt have time for this right now. also as YOU know we are trying to finish set up so we dont really have time to do the car just to prove to you.... so make this official.... WE WILL TAKE U UP ON UR OFFER FOR A ALL MOTOR B SERIES MAKING 250HP.......... BUT IT WILL BE AFTER WE FINISH TAKING CARE OF BUSINESS................ U OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW ITS BUSINESS FIRST....
now the next thing vtecckidd, bobby speaks for himself. when u talk with bobby im sure u see bobby speaking for himself, so u shouldnt take wat bobby says and throw it over at me saying im beating around the bush... bobby talking about his car cause he got it done now i believe... we are talking about a totally different call that we built and tuned.... bobby is our friend yes and we back him up in time of need, but in this forum he is talking about his car........... the car is up and running it just needs a clutch... the car was dynoed in NY and hasnt been dynoed here as yet, hence why i said we will finish it, strap it up and see wat it does

So stretch says it HASNT DYNOED HERE IN GA

then


Car was dynoed in atl when he came to visit few months back.. Problem was bought a cc clutch kit and broke the pressure plate went back to cc they gave me a new kit installed it and car dynod in atl.. 2weeks later went to commerce and now car doesnt go into gears while car is on.. So im looking to go act now


Listen vteckidd and listen carefully

Car made 250+ in ny. Car is in georgia but currently down .. "I" will have car running soon.. Car needs a clutch kit.. I just purchased a home my family comes first if you or any1 cant understand my prioritys .. Then go kill yourself. So be patient i have no issues taking your challange on. Now that i owner of the car spoke should be no reason to keep going on and off about it.. Ill have midnight call u when we ready

So has the car dynoed here or not?

stretch
06-15-2011, 01:41 PM
where did it dyno and what did it dyno.

These are your own peoples WORDS:






So the ORIGINAL statement by 2 shop cheerleaders are there are cars IN GEORGIA Making that power. I asked for proof. Then i got a bunch of condescending talk from Morris about how he has dyno charts to prove it, and how we are small minded and we must not know what we are doing because we arent in NYC. NYC is so much more superior.

Well if this car exists, BRING IT OUT. otherwise , its all BULLSHIT

whoa whoa whoa, nobody said only ny people know wat they are doing, u took it there not us........ yes u are small minded when it comes to stuff like this...... if thats the case we have never seen ur crx make 237hp, all u have is people to vouch, dyno sheets and video, and thats usable material for u... but us on the other hand, our dyno sheets and videos and people vouching for us is NOT usable to u right ! cmon kid, ur better than this:screwy:

top_speed
06-15-2011, 01:41 PM
I am the owner of the car and car made 250+ in ny and in georgia when morris came.. You said you dont wanna see dyno charts so ill just prove it to you. No problems with that.. Let me get my prioritys str8 first.. Now that i spoke shouldnt be no misunderstandings..

*EFilliated*
06-15-2011, 01:42 PM
:lmfao:


You know what this thread needs......







More cowbell..
http://www.altnation.com/forums/attachments/music-equipment-tech-talk/68397d1192332707-yas-i-need-more-cowbell-more_cowbell.jpg

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 01:44 PM
So which one is it guys, sounds like either your customer doesnt know whats going on or YOU dont know whats going on



So stretch says it HASNT DYNOED HERE IN GA

then





So has the car dynoed here or not?

You really are a DICK or you're just bored!?!?!? The car in question made 252 in NY but had clutch issues here and made in the high 230s here but LIKE I SAID BEFORE IT HAD ISSUES and now it has been sitting... We dont count the dyno here because it wasnt at 100%... Is that clear enough for you????

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 01:44 PM
Well you know what Mike, I want to see proof you made 237 and I dont want a dyno sheet or a vid I want to see it make it in front of me... Or I dont believe it.... LMAO Come on man stop it. I said you would get proof so leave it at that. Im not rushing for you.

youre 5 years too late, but here you go

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1480598

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1419428

Had you been around here 5 years ago you would have seen it at almost every dyno contest in GA and at the street races. The problem with your argument is i didnt move to NYC and claim that NYC is full of a bunch of close minded people that dont know what they are doing, and that my car was vastly superior to theirs, and claim ive made more power than anyone else in NYC all motor, but not want to prove it.

So its not the same difference

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 01:46 PM
thats the case we have never seen ur crx make 237hp, all u have is people to vouch, dyno sheets and video, and thats usable material for u... but us on the other hand, our dyno sheets and videos and people vouching for us is NOT usable to u right ! cmon kid, ur better than this:screwy:

I can prove it. I can prove i made 237 on MULTIPLE dynoes in GA.

you CANNOT prove you made 250+ HERE IN GA.

If you posted a dyno sheet from Mainstream saying 250+ id say cool, love to see it sometime.

but you cant. so its mike +1290381209478038129 you guys -29013829018309120

*EFilliated*
06-15-2011, 01:48 PM
your gonna have to translate that to Aramaic,Hebrew,or greek, he is Jesus remember :lmfao:


You really are a DICK or you're just bored!?!?!? The car in question made 252 in NY but had clutch issues here and made in the high 230s here but LIKE I SAID BEFORE IT HAD ISSUES and now it has been sitting... We dont count the dyno here because it wasnt at 100%... Is that clear enough for you????

stretch
06-15-2011, 01:49 PM
So which one is it guys, sounds like either your customer doesnt know whats going on or YOU dont know whats going on



So stretch says it HASNT DYNOED HERE IN GA

then





So has the car dynoed here or not?

well i stand to be corrected........ we had a dyno day at 3 face racingdyno where we dynoed a few cars. the video i put up of my integra fresh of the dyno u will see this car in the video. morris began dynoing the car and the dyno was acting screwwy, graphs were mad choppy and one dyno wheel was cool and one was red hot, as if something was wrong with the brakes on the dyno, so they took the car off... there is video to prove all of wat we are saying u just said u dont want any videos................. so like i said, i typed the wrong thing, I STAND CORRECTED............ the car did see a pull on a dyno in georgia

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 01:49 PM
youre 5 years too late, but here you go

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1480598

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=1419428

Had you been around here 5 years ago you would have seen it at almost every dyno contest in GA and at the street races. The problem with your argument is i didnt move to NYC and claim that NYC is full of a bunch of close minded people that dont know what they are doing, and that my car was vastly superior to theirs, and claim ive made more power than anyone else in NYC all motor, but not want to prove it.

So its not the same difference
Take it however you like..... You said something stupid, and I corrected you.. You dont like it, o well. You want proof, you will get it. You dont wanna wait, then dont. I could care less.. Its that simple.

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 01:50 PM
I can prove it. I can prove i made 237 on MULTIPLE dynoes in GA.

you CANNOT prove you made 250+ HERE IN GA.

If you posted a dyno sheet from Mainstream saying 250+ id say cool, love to see it sometime.

but you cant. so its mike +1290381209478038129 you guys -29013829018309120

Whats with this hang up on GA, is there some magical factor that makes this diff from the rest of the real world??? No one can make power in GA??? Is that what you're saying?

EmminoDaGreat
06-15-2011, 01:52 PM
Whats with this hang up on GA, is there some magical factor that makes this diff from the rest of the real world???

Fuck yes its magical.

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 01:54 PM
Fuck yes its magical.

LMAO @ James... I wanna understand, cuz if I can make power EVERYWHERE else, why would GA be any diff????

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 01:55 PM
Whats with this hang up on GA, is there some magical factor that makes this diff from the rest of the real world??? No one can make power in GA??? Is that what you're saying?

youll see im sure.

I suppose you believe a stock K20A2 with Skunk2 Stage 1s makes 250whp , i mean it does in Cali according to Churchs Dyno..........

I dont have time to sit here and explain to you the difference between bragging about making the highest whp NA b series ever in GA, and using a dyno from a different state to qualify.

If thats the case i should have driven my car to Cali and made 280 and been crowned king for all eternity.

If you cant understand what my point is, oh well, youll learn in time the more and more cars you build and the more and more you dyno

good luck

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 01:56 PM
Bottom line is Mike said he doesnt believe anyone in GA can make 250 on a NA Bseries. Which I think is stupid and closed minded because its happening all over the world.. So how am I wrong?

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 01:56 PM
LMAO @ James... I wanna understand, cuz if I can make power EVERYWHERE else, why would GA be any diff????

cause 250whp in CALI isnt the same as 250whp IN GA. 250whp IN NYC ISNT THE SAME AS 250WHP IN ATLANTA.

Are you really being this naive?

ill see you guys in person its obvious this is going nowhere

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 01:57 PM
Bottom line is Mike said he doesnt believe anyone in GA can make 250 on a NA Bseries. Which I think is stupid and closed minded because its happening all over the world.. So how am I wrong?

THATS NOT WHAT I SAID MOTHERFUCKER

i said "I DONT BELIEVE A 250whp CAR EXISTS IN GA AND HASNT DYNOED IN GA"

By YOUR OWN STATEMENTS YOU AGREED WITH ME, THE CAR HAS NOT DYNOED HERE, SO YOU CANNOT SAY IT MAKES 250whp.

PERIOD

christ its like im hitting my head against a brick wall.

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 01:57 PM
youll see im sure.

I suppose you believe a stock K20A2 with Skunk2 Stage 1s makes 250whp , i mean it does in Cali according to Churchs Dyno..........

I dont have time to sit here and explain to you the difference between bragging about making the highest whp NA b series ever in GA, and using a dyno from a different state to qualify.

If thats the case i should have driven my car to Cali and made 280 and been crowned king for all eternity.

If you cant understand what my point is, oh well, youll learn in time the more and more cars you build and the more and more you dyno

good luck

You're being an asshole again... Thats 2 diff dynos. Im speakin of dynojet. You still havent explained how you can cheat a dynojet????

stretch
06-15-2011, 01:58 PM
I can prove it. I can prove i made 237 on MULTIPLE dynoes in GA.

you CANNOT prove you made 250+ HERE IN GA.

If you posted a dyno sheet from Mainstream saying 250+ id say cool, love to see it sometime.

but you cant. so its mike +1290381209478038129 you guys -29013829018309120

but we have been telling u we are taking u up on ur challenge for 2 days now, and ur still going on about it... iwe can make u here the car start and run, the shit just doesnt go into gear cause the clutch broke... the man bought a house for him and his family, have some fuccin respect and let the man handle his business then he will get back to u... ur challenge was accepted, that should be enough, so fuccin wait on the man to get the house situated then he will get to u.........

i keep tellin u , me nor morris came out here claiming to be the fastest, at all....... we did say YOU VTECCKIDD and a few others are close minded, because u feel that if u couldnt real a ceratin goal with ur car that goal is not attainable by anyone else... get over urself man......... the game has changed a lot since u were in it 5 yyrs ago...... u feel nothing else can be done cause uve done it all..... ur crazy dude, real fuccin crazy.... the fucc up thing is ur a FAKE ASS MOTHERFUCKER, and even after we prove u wrong we know that wont earn ur respect, so why the fucc bother........ we are gonna prove just because we want to, just for shits and giggles, we dont want ur pennies buddy.

DarKStaR
06-15-2011, 01:59 PM
This convo wasnt going anywhere the last thread it was in....what makes it different now?

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 01:59 PM
THATS NOT WHAT I SAID MOTHERFUCKER

i said "I DONT BELIEVE A 250whp CAR EXISTS IN GA AND HASNT DYNOED IN GA"

By YOUR OWN STATEMENTS YOU AGREED WITH ME, THE CAR HAS NOT DYNOED HERE, SO YOU CANNOT SAY IT MAKES 250whp.

PERIOD

christ its like im hitting my head against a brick wall.

Your original statements said you dont think its possible in Ga and you know what it takes to do it. I have plenty of 260+ cars in NY so if I brought them here you dont think they would make 260???

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 01:59 PM
You're being an asshole again... Thats 2 diff dynos. Im speakin of dynojet. You still havent explained how you can cheat a dynojet????

its a simple text file, dont tell me you cant modify it, i can show you how if you want

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 02:00 PM
Your original statements said you dont think its possible in Ga and you know what it takes to do it. I have plenty of 260+ cars in NY so if I brought them here you dont think they would make 260???

NO I DONT.

stretch
06-15-2011, 02:02 PM
THATS NOT WHAT I SAID MOTHERFUCKER

i said "I DONT BELIEVE A 250whp CAR EXISTS IN GA AND HASNT DYNOED IN GA"

By YOUR OWN STATEMENTS YOU AGREED WITH ME, THE CAR HAS NOT DYNOED HERE, SO YOU CANNOT SAY IT MAKES 250whp.

PERIOD

christ its like im hitting my head against a brick wall.

ahhhhhhhhhhhh..... read ur post again and maybe u will see u retyped almost the identical thing to wat morris typed...LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 02:02 PM
but we have been telling u we are taking u up on ur challenge for 2 days now, and ur still going on about it... iwe can make u here the car start and run, the shit just doesnt go into gear cause the clutch broke... the man bought a house for him and his family, have some fuccin respect and let the man handle his business then he will get back to u... ur challenge was accepted, that should be enough, so fuccin wait on the man to get the house situated then he will get to u.........

im going on about it because 1) bored 2) your cheerleaders keep fucking up, im just calling them out on it.


i keep tellin u , me nor morris came out here claiming to be the fastest, at all....... we did say YOU VTECCKIDD and a few others are close minded, because u feel that if u couldnt real a ceratin goal with ur car that goal is not attainable by anyone else... get over urself man......... the game has changed a lot since u were in it 5 yyrs ago...... u feel nothing else can be done cause uve done it all..... ur crazy dude, real fuccin crazy.... the fucc up thing is ur a FAKE ASS MOTHERFUCKER, and even after we prove u wrong we know that wont earn ur respect, so why the fucc bother........ we are gonna prove just because we want to, just for shits and giggles, we dont want ur pennies buddy.

im not fake at all, and if it makes it, ill pay up, and ill say congrats. But im not going to give props unless props is warranted. and you guys dont get that.

you want me to to be all impressed with your NY resume, but you want to talk down about my GA resume.

agree to disagree. cant argue with hypocrites

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 02:02 PM
My last reply... Mike how many cars have you dynoed in other places????? Cuz I have done cars in NY, CT, NJ, FL, GA, Toronto, Vancouver, Victoria, Portugal, Virgin Islands and a few others. So I think my experience with altitudes and humidity and weather changes and dynos out weighs yours.

EmminoDaGreat
06-15-2011, 02:03 PM
LMAO @ James... I wanna understand, cuz if I can make power EVERYWHERE else, why would GA be any diff????


Well the only thing I have seen is the temperature and humidity and altitude are harder on the cars...
But I also think there are cars that make tons of power, that don't let people know about it wether it be all motor or turbo, they keep it down low.

It was 95 on the dyno saturday, and I let my car cool for about 10-15 minutes inbetween runs and it picked up around 20-40 wheel depending on how long it sat between the pulls.

** also on a side note, I am pretty sure the dynojets are calibrated to compesate for where altitude etc, to keep consistency among them. but don't quote me.

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 02:04 PM
ahhhhhhhhhhhh..... read ur post again and maybe u will see u retyped almost the identical thing to wat morris typed...LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

i would NEVER say its NOT POSSIBLE.

If i did show me and i will retract it.

What i said was, "I KNOW WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE 250whp IN GA, AND I DONT THINK ONE EXISTS"

and you guys argued, but at the end of the day you just agreed with me ^^^

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 02:04 PM
its a simple text file, dont tell me you cant modify it, i can show you how if you want

But you said you wouldnt trust my dyno with your own eyes.... How could I modify it and you not see it if you are standing right there???

stretch
06-15-2011, 02:05 PM
so for example, CHRIS MILLER is from NY, and is a friend of ours....... he races his car all over the US and is still running 8s all day irrespective of where he goes. he is the record holder and has the fastest outlaw fwd car ...... or lemme guess that not a good example

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 02:05 PM
Well the only thing I have seen is the temperature and humidity and altitude are harder on the cars...
But I also think there are cars that make tons of power, that don't let people know about it wether it be all motor or turbo, they keep it down low.

It was 95 on the dyno saturday, and I let my car cool for about 10-15 minutes inbetween runs and it picked up around 20-40 wheel depending on how long it sat between the pulls.
Trust me James in mid summer it gets almost as hot in NY as it does here. And its just as humid.

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 02:07 PM
im going on about it because 1) bored 2) your cheerleaders keep fucking up, im just calling them out on it.



im not fake at all, and if it makes it, ill pay up, and ill say congrats. But im not going to give props unless props is warranted. and you guys dont get that.

you want me to to be all impressed with your NY resume, but you want to talk down about my GA resume.

agree to disagree. cant argue with hypocrites

I never talked down about your GA resume, all I said is i disagree with your statements about the power that can be made with a bseries in GA

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 02:09 PM
o and Im gonna let that "MOTHERFUCKER" statement pass but only once.

EmminoDaGreat
06-15-2011, 02:09 PM
Trust me James in mid summer it gets almost as hot in NY as it does here. And its just as humid.

Yea, and tiny apartments with no central air :(

Then here is my intervention

GA sucks the power out of cars w/ magic.

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 02:10 PM
Yea, and tiny apartments with no central air :(

Then here is my intervention

GA sucks the power out of cars w/ magic.

LMAO It would seem so...

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 02:17 PM
o and Im gonna let that "MOTHERFUCKER" statement pass but only once.

I'm trembling I assure you

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 02:18 PM
I'm trembling I assure you
Im not on a childish level, wasnt sayin it for you to tremble. But funny how thats the only thing you responded to.

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 02:20 PM
so for example, CHRIS MILLER is from NY, and is a friend of ours....... he races his car all over the US and is still running 8s all day irrespective of where he goes. he is the record holder and has the fastest outlaw fwd car ...... or lemme guess that not a good example
The argument isn't about whether the car runs xx time in the quarter. That's why dyno are subjective. 250whp in one state isn't the same as another, neither is track times though but that's another argument.

It's foolish to think that some tracks aren't faster than other.

It's foolish to think that one dyno may not be more "forgiving" than another.

Ok who says my motor wouldn't hhave made 260 in NY? I dint know, I never went to NY so I never would have tried to claim that.

Again it's all in presentation. YOUR statement were that this car dynoed 250 in ga, that's obviously false.

I never said it didn't do that in NY, but what I did say is it hasn't done it in GA and that is CORRECT.

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 02:22 PM
The argument isn't about whether the car runs xx time in the quarter. That's why dyno are subjective. 250whp in one state isn't the same as another, neither is track times though but that's another argument.

It's foolish to think that some tracks aren't faster than other.

It's foolish to think that one dyno may not be more "forgiving" than another.

Ok who says my motor wouldn't hhave made 260 in NY? I dint know, I never went to NY so I never would have tried to claim that.

Again it's all in presentation. YOUR statement were that this car dynoed 250 in ga, that's obviously false.

I never said it didn't do that in NY, but what I did say is it hasn't done it in GA and that is CORRECT.

Ok you win. GA sucks the power out of cars w/ magic. Thanx James for the new sig...

stretch
06-15-2011, 02:25 PM
The argument isn't about whether the car runs xx time in the quarter. That's why dyno are subjective. 250whp in one state isn't the same as another, neither is track times though but that's another argument.

It's foolish to think that some tracks aren't faster than other.

It's foolish to think that one dyno may not be more "forgiving" than another.

Ok who says my motor wouldn't hhave made 260 in NY? I dint know, I never went to NY so I never would have tried to claim that.

Again it's all in presentation. YOUR statement were that this car dynoed 250 in ga, that's obviously false.

I never said it didn't do that in NY, but what I did say is it hasn't done it in GA and that is CORRECT.

here u go again.... we never said that..... U SAID U DONT THINK ONE EXIST HERE, AND WE SAID WE DO, U SAID PROVE IT, WE SIAD WE WILL..... so simple even a new yorker can understand....lmaoooooooo

justnprsh07
06-15-2011, 02:26 PM
man im moving to ny so maybe my car will make 900

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 02:27 PM
man im moving to ny so maybe my car will make 900

Its the magic.....

top_speed
06-15-2011, 02:27 PM
seems like you have a hate for midnight im sure once we put 250 on the dyno there will be another argument on something else.. we not ready shop aint fully up and we all got personal shit so why try to bash us when we are down.. just wait till we are ready and if we cant produce then go blog crazy.. till then be eazy

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 02:28 PM
Like said you are extremely 1 dimensional tuning if you don't get it. Weather patterns, geography changes power output.

I had guys making 240+ in Florida on DYNOJETS, come to batlground and make 217.

I see guys making 230-240 on dynojets on k20a.org with k20a2 and cams I/h/e. Then guys with the SAME setup make 215-220 here.

So no not all dynos are the same, surprised a "tuner" doesn't understand that

The more motors you build in ga the more you'll understand that. If it made 252 in ny and it makes 252 here, then you guys will get a ton of NA BUSINESS, and I'll be impressed.

But if it makes 220 here, I'll say "I warned you" and maybe you'll understand.

justnprsh07
06-15-2011, 02:29 PM
Its the magic.....

thats whats up... hows the traction up there? im guessing it makes the car lighter also?

stretch
06-15-2011, 02:29 PM
man im moving to ny so maybe my car will make 900

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

top_speed
06-15-2011, 02:31 PM
Like said you are extremely 1 dimensional tuning if you don't get it. Weather patterns, geography changes power output.

I had guys making 240+ in Florida on DYNOJETS, come to batlground and make 217.

I see guys making 230-240 on dynojets on k20a.org with k20a2 and cams I/h/e. Then guys with the SAME setup make 215-220 here.

So no not all dynos are the same, surprised a "tuner" doesn't understand that

The more motors you build in ga the more you'll understand that. If it made 252 in ny and it makes 252 here, then you guys will get a ton of NA BUSINESS, and I'll be impressed.

But if it makes 220 here, I'll say "I warned you" and maybe you'll understand.

all in due time we will see... fuck it.. i say we put the blue eg on dyno and compare ny dyno chart to ga dyno chart>>> MORRIS????????

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 02:32 PM
Like said you are extremely 1 dimensional tuning if you don't get it. Weather patterns, geography changes power output.

I had guys making 240+ in Florida on DYNOJETS, come to batlground and make 217.

I see guys making 230-240 on dynojets on k20a.org with k20a2 and cams I/h/e. Then guys with the SAME setup make 215-220 here.

So no not all dynos are the same, surprised a "tuner" doesn't understand that

The more motors you build in ga the more you'll understand that. If it made 252 in ny and it makes 252 here, then you guys will get a ton of NA BUSINESS, and I'll be impressed.

But if it makes 220 here, I'll say "I warned you" and maybe you'll understand.

I understand that, but its not as drastic as you are makin it seem.. Like I said before even tho I am 1 dimensional tuning whatever that means, I still have MORE EXPERIENCE than YOU. :P

top_speed
06-15-2011, 02:32 PM
yo yo yo stretch was up yo

justnprsh07
06-15-2011, 02:32 PM
Like said you are extremely 1 dimensional tuning if you don't get it. Weather patterns, geography changes power output.

I had guys making 240+ in Florida on DYNOJETS, come to batlground and make 217.

I see guys making 230-240 on dynojets on k20a.org with k20a2 and cams I/h/e. Then guys with the SAME setup make 215-220 here.

So no not all dynos are the same, surprised a "tuner" doesn't understand that

The more motors you build in ga the more you'll understand that. If it made 252 in ny and it makes 252 here, then you guys will get a ton of NA BUSINESS, and I'll be impressed.

But if it makes 220 here, I'll say "I warned you" and maybe you'll understand.

weather will make a diff but not that much if your car is fast it will still be fast and if its slow its still gonna be slow.. every dyno is diff and none putt out the same number but hp really does not matter that much for example i make 3x as much hp as you do but does that mean im 3x as fast?

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 02:33 PM
all in due time we will see... fuck it.. i say we put the blue eg on dyno and compare ny dyno chart to ga dyno chart>>> MORRIS????????

He wont believe it anyway, he'll say I modified it... LMAO

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 02:34 PM
weather will make a diff but not that much if your car is fast it will still be fast and if its slow its still gonna be slow.. every dyno is diff and none putt out the same number but hp really does not matter that much for example i make 3x as much hp as you do but does that mean im 3x as fast?

Wow, and hes not tuner. He can still understand....

justnprsh07
06-15-2011, 02:34 PM
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

or yal can putt a dehumidifier in the shop and turn the ac on when i bring my car up there and bam

justnprsh07
06-15-2011, 02:35 PM
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

lol double post sorry

top_speed
06-15-2011, 02:40 PM
He wont believe it anyway, he'll say I modified it... LMAO

vteckidd bring a 24 pack and we compare the blue eg which has been dynoed in ny and dyno it in atlanta to see the diffrence

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 02:41 PM
vteckidd bring a 24 pack and we compare the blue eg which has been dynoed in ny and dyno it in atlanta to see the diffrence

I told you he wont believe it cuz the magic of GA wont let him

justnprsh07
06-15-2011, 02:42 PM
what i want to know is when you guys gonna setup a open house or dyno day?????

top_speed
06-15-2011, 02:42 PM
after 48 pages later i finally clicked the link to see what video it was lmaooooooo.... that night i fucked up my spike lee jordans and made 300 deffinlly a good run

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 02:44 PM
what i want to know is when you guys gonna setup a open house or dyno day?????

Tryin to setup for the grand opening, which if everything goes right will be July 4th weekend.

top_speed
06-15-2011, 02:45 PM
Tryin to setup for the grand opening, which if everything goes right will be July 4th weekend.

werd bbq, strippers, and cars gotta say its gonna be good

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 02:50 PM
here u go again.... we never said that..... U SAID U DONT THINK ONE EXIST HERE, AND WE SAID WE DO, U SAID PROVE IT, WE SIAD WE WILL..... so simple even a new yorker can understand....lmaoooooooo
I disagree it wasn't that simple but it's no use arguing. Let me know when you're ready

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 03:25 PM
I understand that, but its not as drastic as you are makin it seem.. Like I said before even tho I am 1 dimensional tuning whatever that means, I still have MORE EXPERIENCE than YOU. :P

1 dimensional means you honestly think that hp numbers are identical from state to state.

Im telling you they are NOT. Not all dynos are the same. ive seen 10whp differences from 1 dynojet to another IN GA from two shops 10 miles apart. If someone bet me i made 230whp in 2006, i would have won on mainstreams dyno (237) and lost on BGs dyno (228). I dynoed within 30 minutes of each other, shops BOTH have dynojets and are within 10 miles of each other.

So when people start bragging about NUMBERS , and they claim a REALLY HIGH NUMBER, THE HIGHEST EVER FOR A B SERIES IN GA, you should expect people to ask for proof.

The reason why i ask for it to be on Mainstreams dyno is because all previous OTHER highest hp cars NA in GA have dynoed there. So its a good MEASURING stick. We dont know about YOUR dyno and what it displays.

If you start churning out 250whp cars and they run 13s, we know your dyno is way higher than mainstreams. So why would i bet to have you prove it on YOUR dyno when it hasnt dynoed any of the other high hp cars here?

Thats just common sense.

If it makes 250 on your dyno in woodstock, awesome, you can say you have a car that makes 250whp. And i wont be able to dispute that. But you cant even say THAT RIGHT NOW.

Define Experience? I bet even your BEST year you didnt touch the sales kiddracing did :) I have business experience, i was never a grease monkey. Not my thing. :)

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 03:28 PM
vteckidd bring a 24 pack and we compare the blue eg which has been dynoed in ny and dyno it in atlanta to see the diffrence

sure. Dyno it at midnight and dyno it same day at mainstream. That would do a lot. Im down.

justnprsh07
06-15-2011, 03:37 PM
sure. Dyno it at midnight and dyno it same day at mainstream. That would do a lot. Im down.

still not gonna prove anything bc its not gonna make your car any faster... now if you if you were to take it the shop and let them work on it and try diff things then take it to the other shop and let them try there tricks and then you could compare shops. but is far as im concerned you pick you shop from either being cheaper "wich is normally not a good idea" or you like the ppl and environment

stretch
06-15-2011, 03:37 PM
which car the blue car ?

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 03:43 PM
which car the blue car ?

sure. If the blue car makes 300 on midnights and 300 on mainstreams, then that would show at minimum the dynos are consistent or close to each other. hell it doesnt EVEN HAVE TO BE THE RACE CAR.

dyno my stock TL. NO VARIABLES with that car. ill even bring beer for everyone. Or do the blue EG, i know thats their "race car" so i would understand if they dont want its dyno numbers out.

Doesnt change the fact id like to see the "250" car dyno at mainstream, but if they can show that the dynos are consistent to each other, then you would know any future cars that make big power there people can assume they are equal to output that mainstream/bg puts out.

if you do the Blue EG you can compare its NY numbers with its Atlanta numbers.....that is if the setup is still the same as it was in NY, and same time of year, etc

stretch
06-15-2011, 03:48 PM
nothing has changed with the blue car besides engine oil and state it is in... and that car is a STREET CAR... registered and everything... we just take the seats out to race...lol

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 03:49 PM
nothing has changed with the blue car besides engine oil and state it is in... and that car is a STREET CAR... registered and everything... we just take the seats out to race...lol

well i meant it was your "racing car" like you guys street race in it. so if you didnt want to post its dyno numbers or have someone see what it makes i would understand.

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 04:09 PM
1 dimensional means you honestly think that hp numbers are identical from state to state.

Im telling you they are NOT. Not all dynos are the same. ive seen 10whp differences from 1 dynojet to another IN GA from two shops 10 miles apart. If someone bet me i made 230whp in 2006, i would have won on mainstreams dyno (237) and lost on BGs dyno (228). I dynoed within 30 minutes of each other, shops BOTH have dynojets and are within 10 miles of each other.

So when people start bragging about NUMBERS , and they claim a REALLY HIGH NUMBER, THE HIGHEST EVER FOR A B SERIES IN GA, you should expect people to ask for proof.

The reason why i ask for it to be on Mainstreams dyno is because all previous OTHER highest hp cars NA in GA have dynoed there. So its a good MEASURING stick. We dont know about YOUR dyno and what it displays.

If you start churning out 250whp cars and they run 13s, we know your dyno is way higher than mainstreams. So why would i bet to have you prove it on YOUR dyno when it hasnt dynoed any of the other high hp cars here?

Thats just common sense.

If it makes 250 on your dyno in woodstock, awesome, you can say you have a car that makes 250whp. And i wont be able to dispute that. But you cant even say THAT RIGHT NOW.

Define Experience? I bet even your BEST year you didnt touch the sales kiddracing did :) I have business experience, i was never a grease monkey. Not my thing. :)

So does that mean because you dynoed at 237 and at 228 that your car doesnt make 237? Ahhhh ha.... LMAO you contradict yourself so much you dont even realize it.

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 04:20 PM
1 dimensional means you honestly think that hp numbers are identical from state to state.

Im telling you they are NOT. Not all dynos are the same. ive seen 10whp differences from 1 dynojet to another IN GA from two shops 10 miles apart. If someone bet me i made 230whp in 2006, i would have won on mainstreams dyno (237) and lost on BGs dyno (228). I dynoed within 30 minutes of each other, shops BOTH have dynojets and are within 10 miles of each other.

So when people start bragging about NUMBERS , and they claim a REALLY HIGH NUMBER, THE HIGHEST EVER FOR A B SERIES IN GA, you should expect people to ask for proof.

The reason why i ask for it to be on Mainstreams dyno is because all previous OTHER highest hp cars NA in GA have dynoed there. So its a good MEASURING stick. We dont know about YOUR dyno and what it displays.

If you start churning out 250whp cars and they run 13s, we know your dyno is way higher than mainstreams. So why would i bet to have you prove it on YOUR dyno when it hasnt dynoed any of the other high hp cars here?

Thats just common sense.

If it makes 250 on your dyno in woodstock, awesome, you can say you have a car that makes 250whp. And i wont be able to dispute that. But you cant even say THAT RIGHT NOW.

Define Experience? I bet even your BEST year you didnt touch the sales kiddracing did :) I have business experience, i was never a grease monkey. Not my thing. :)
So stick to what you know....

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 04:33 PM
So does that mean because you dynoed at 237 and at 228 that your car doesnt make 237? Ahhhh ha.... LMAO you contradict yourself so much you dont even realize it.

You really don't get it do you.

MidnightAuto
06-15-2011, 04:34 PM
You really don't get it do you.

Uh uhhh

top_speed
06-15-2011, 04:38 PM
:facepalm:

Moseley
06-15-2011, 05:11 PM
The reason why i ask for it to be on Mainstreams dyno is because all previous OTHER highest hp cars NA in GA have dynoed there. So its a good MEASURING stick.


I see guys making 230-240 on dynojets on k20a.org with k20a2 and cams I/h/e. Then guys with the SAME setup make 215-220 here.

Mike I have to bust your balls on this one... I think these claims are nuts. ever heard of John Kauffman? I bet he had the highest hp NA honda 4 cylinder in GA for 10-15 years.

And Ks here make power from what I've seen. but I have only seen K cars on dynos that I know have pretty good setups (no issues). Evan's car needs a tune badly and it still made 218 @ mainstream. so I'm pretty certain that any k20a2 without issues and the right bolt ons and tune will make 220+ at mainstream.

David88vert
06-15-2011, 05:20 PM
More cars have dyno'ed at Dynolab than any other dyno in GA, that is for certain. Arthur (the owner) hasn't changed his setup on it since 1999. If you want consistency, that is the place for it.

1civic
06-15-2011, 05:44 PM
Well I'm going to jack my dick while drive my slow ass honda!!


Later!!

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 06:01 PM
Mike I have to bust your balls on this one... I think these claims are nuts. ever heard of John Kauffman? I bet he had the highest hp NA honda 4 cylinder in GA for 10-15 years.

And Ks here make power from what I've seen. but I have only seen K cars on dynos that I know have pretty good setups (no issues). Evan's car needs a tune badly and it still made 218 @ mainstream. so I'm pretty certain that any k20a2 without issues and the right bolt ons and tune will make 220+ at mainstream.

John Kauffman? Lol the biggest rip off artist there ever was? Yeah right.

Chunky had plenty ipsk2 ssr header rbc intake kproed rsxs that never cracked 215-220. Yet everyone on k20a claims 230-240+

Evans made good power but the swapped k cars seem to make 5-10whp more anyway .

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 06:04 PM
I can name 10 cars that never made that kind of power here. So I dunno.

Mainstream has the highest whp

H22- several 230-250whp
B series-237whp multiple 220+
k series -Gregg and many others (mose etc)

Mspi dynoed the most hondas that's fact

EmminoDaGreat
06-15-2011, 06:15 PM
Nobody wants any of Maurice's 91 prelude with the h22!! making 250 for years!! sleeperrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr style

Morris, if you're going to quote me damnit, I at least want credit in the sig.

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 06:42 PM
Sorry matt I just know at least 5 people kaufmann blatantly ripped off. One guy spent $10000 and got a b20block that rod knocked on start up.

Moseley
06-15-2011, 06:55 PM
Sure Kauffman might have been shady but having seen his car (road race car) hang with 500hp tube framed GT1 cars it makes you think his claims were valid. 2.2L high compression, race gas, mikuni carbs, 300crank hp. this was all back in the mid 90s. he used to tear down and modify bike motors as a hobby and did know his shit about building old school hondas.

And matt's RSX at balanced made what seems to be the equivalent of 240whp at mainstream. cams I/H/E and kpro. I have another friend completely unkown to most who made 224whp SAE with a stock K20a w/ bolt ons.

And so Gregg's car is the K series record holder just because it is the only one to have been on mainstream's dyno? lmao.

DarKStaR
06-15-2011, 06:59 PM
This is giving me an idea for a thread to go in the 1/4 mile section.....

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 07:27 PM
Maybe I'm not making myself clear or I'm not asserting myself.

Kaufmann I only know from KMS. Which never turned out anything but lies and blown motors

I don't know about his road racing.

Mainstream has dynoed MOST of the high whp cars around. I dont know who makes the "most" but I can say that mainstream is prob the best measuring stick because the most card hVe dynoed there.

IMO

Don't really care if anyone agrees or not.

Balanced may be the only other shop with a good mix of NA Honda cars.

05dc5s
06-15-2011, 07:29 PM
Sorry matt I just know at least 5 people kaufmann blatantly ripped off. One guy spent $10000 and got a b20block that rod knocked on start up.

My name is Matt and I never knew John Kauffman. But it sounds like fortunately so.

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 07:29 PM
Kaufmann never built any motor I ever saw that made over 176whp, and I never saw any of his motors last longer than 3 months

I can name names and cars

John reminds me of Larry from endyn

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 07:30 PM
My name is Matt and I never knew John Kauffman. But it sounds like fortunately so.

Mosely changed his sig on my phone looks like an RSX MY fault :)

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 07:37 PM
Now we are arguing over semantics.

Stretch knows how to get in touch with me when they are ready

05dc5s
06-15-2011, 07:46 PM
Mosely changed his sig on my phone looks like an RSX MY fault :)

No worries I was just confused as to why you named me. :cheers:

And sweet my dc5 looks like an e92! I wish I had a carbon fiber roof. :D

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 08:47 PM
For the record I actually LIKE stretch and Morris. Well I don't think I've met Morris, but stretch is a cool guy. I actually talked to him on the phone today.

I would actually LOVE to see Midnight succeed and continue to churn out nice cars that forces everyone else to keep up. It's boring when no one pushes the envelope. it's always good to see new competition as well.

So regardless of what happens on the Internet, I dont HATE or SERIOUSLY dislike anyone.

I love NA hondas, whether they make 250 or 200. A well built car is a well built car, period.

stretch
06-15-2011, 09:16 PM
This is giving me an idea for a thread to go in the 1/4 mile section.....

im curious to hear wat ur crafting up mr darkstar

DarKStaR
06-15-2011, 09:29 PM
Something similar to this thread.... http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?152192-****NA-ALL-MOTOR-WHP-REGISTRY**** But this one is outdated. We need something more current, and im thinking about breaking it down into k,b,h,d, etc... make a category for all motor and turbo, etc.. Will have to have dyno graph proof or graph in video...Maybe have a top 10 in each category. Just something ive been tinkering with.

Vteckidd
06-15-2011, 10:07 PM
Good idea. It's what I attempted to do.

I'd say just post shop and engine, mods, honor system is fine.

Be good to see who makes what and where.

jerseyef9
06-15-2011, 10:12 PM
Something similar to this thread.... http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?152192-****NA-ALL-MOTOR-WHP-REGISTRY**** But this one is outdated. We need something more current, and im thinking about breaking it down into k,b,h,d, etc... make a category for all motor and turbo, etc.. Will have to have dyno graph proof or graph in video...Maybe have a top 10 in each category. Just something ive been tinkering with.

great mind think alot morris was thinking about same thing

DarKStaR
06-15-2011, 10:18 PM
Yea, heres what im thinking, when you post your numbers...

Example: DarKStaR-2xxwhp/1xxwtq Z series mainstream......and then post graph/video/proof on numbers, maybe even a vouch.

I wouldnt get into mods besides the usuall bolt ons/cam/IM, i know some people want to keep some stuff a secret

stretch
06-15-2011, 10:32 PM
Yea, heres what im thinking, when you post your numbers...

Example: DarKStaR-2xxwhp/1xxwtq Z series mainstream......and then post graph/video/proof on numbers, maybe even a vouch.

I wouldnt get into mods besides the usuall bolt ons/cam/IM, i know some people want to keep some stuff a secret

isnt there a thread like that already, or maybe it was quarter mile times by h22 jones.... by the way my 11.7 aint up on that list either, wats up with that....lmao

tdurr
06-16-2011, 01:55 AM
like i said sir i will run you from a dig cause i cant drive
oh yeah im mad on a internet forum lmao this just something to do at work when it slow so...................am i really mad lmao smh
sorry about the stolen car and stop being butt hurt

haha me being but hurt? i just posted my 2cents in here and u took it personal. I forgot who u were until someone sent me a txt and i laughed harder. I never take anything seriously and am still getting a kick outta u wanting to run me cuz i said some random dude who's the "boss" of nyc failed miserably at an page of argument wit mike, who just talks shit cuz no1 ever takes him up on his offers.
and my car is slow too but i HAD fun driving it and making ppl go wtf, was that an accord?? :/

butt anyways i dont really wanna post in here anymore. too many pages happened in one day. pm me if u really take ia seriously, ill prob check back in a few weeks or so.

*EFilliated*
06-16-2011, 06:49 AM
:gay:



haha me being but hurt? i just posted my 2cents in here and u took it personal. I forgot who u were until someone sent me a txt and i laughed harder. I never take anything seriously and am still getting a kick outta u wanting to run me cuz i said some random dude who's the "boss" of nyc failed miserably at an page of argument wit mike, who just talks shit cuz no1 ever takes him up on his offers.
and my car is slow too but i HAD fun driving it and making ppl go wtf, was that an accord?? :/

butt anyways i dont really wanna post in here anymore. too many pages happened in one day. pm me if u really take ia seriously, ill prob check back in a few weeks or so.

boosted347
06-16-2011, 05:50 PM
Something similar to this thread.... http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?152192-****NA-ALL-MOTOR-WHP-REGISTRY**** But this one is outdated. We need something more current, and im thinking about breaking it down into k,b,h,d, etc... make a category for all motor and turbo, etc.. Will have to have dyno graph proof or graph in video...Maybe have a top 10 in each category. Just something ive been tinkering with.

I like the idea, but I think a dyno graph or video should mandatory...that would eliminate any doubt

1civic
06-16-2011, 05:57 PM
I like the idea, but I think a dyno graph or video should mandatory...that would eliminate any doubt

With Photoshop and screen shot edits, that alone can make any number a doubt... LOL

No matter what I ever post some jackass will call bullshit!!! So it's pointless to ever post the shit.. I learned that a long time ago!!

I will never post a build sheet or a dyno sheet on IA for that reason... Fuck all these sorry ass people who can't handle the truth!!

lol

LATER!!

boosted347
06-16-2011, 06:16 PM
^^^lol the truth hurts some people can't handle it...haters gonna hate :yes:

DarKStaR
06-16-2011, 06:18 PM
With Photoshop and screen shot edits, that alone can make any number a doubt... LOL

No matter what I ever post some jackass will call bullshit!!! So it's pointless to ever post the shit.. I learned that a long time ago!!

I will never post a build sheet or a dyno sheet on IA for that reason... Fuck all these sorry ass people who can't handle the truth!!

lol

LATER!!
You can reverse what someone has photoshopped...but thats why i said to also have someone vouch. But I understand some people dont want others to know what motor/numbers they are making, so that means they wont be on the list.

Vteckidd
06-16-2011, 06:50 PM
With Photoshop and screen shot edits, that alone can make any number a doubt... LOL

No matter what I ever post some jackass will call bullshit!!! So it's pointless to ever post the shit.. I learned that a long time ago!!

I will never post a build sheet or a dyno sheet on IA for that reason... Fuck all these sorry ass people who can't handle the truth!!

lol

LATER!!

not starting anything but........
if theres no reason to lie, then no one will call bullshit.

Just some advice, if you go around telling people you make XXXwhp then you should be able to back it up. If you dont want to, or dont care what people think, or whatever your reason is, then you shouldnt quote a number in the first place. Make sense?

Like if i went around claiming my D series makes 250 NA, i would fully expect people to say "wtf, really?" i better
1) Run 11s
2) Have a dyno sheet

Anything less than that OF COURSE people are going to question you. Thats just common sense, and you would be the same way.

:)

1civic
06-16-2011, 11:32 PM
not starting anything but........
if theres no reason to lie, then no one will call bullshit.

Just some advice, if you go around telling people you make XXXwhp then you should be able to back it up. If you dont want to, or dont care what people think, or whatever your reason is, then you shouldnt quote a number in the first place. Make sense?

Like if i went around claiming my D series makes 250 NA, i would fully expect people to say "wtf, really?" i better
1) Run 11s
2) Have a dyno sheet

Anything less than that OF COURSE people are going to question you. Thats just common sense, and you would be the same way.

:)

Guess I've been a street racer to long, I could care less what it makes on a dyno.. But yes I see your point!!

stretch
06-18-2011, 01:38 AM
Guess I've been a street racer to long, I could care less what it makes on a dyno.. But yes I see your point!!

wowwwwwwwwww.... 1 civic agreed with vtecckidd...oh shit............. someone should sticky this man, it gotta go down in history........LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOO

h22 jones
06-18-2011, 01:46 AM
Hell has froze over.lol

stretch
06-18-2011, 01:48 AM
i agree... vtecc kidd probably passed out from seeing this thats why he aint post nothing else yet. some go to check on mike and make sure he ok...lmaoooooooo

h22 jones
06-18-2011, 08:30 PM
Lol