turbo civic putting in work

[112480]

Hell i'll role race you gregg just so we can see how your car is in the quarter lol.

By George, I think we have a Winner!! ding ding ding:goodjob:

[112480]

Im just talking shit i bought pro 3s lol.

Your gonna need fucking pro 4's:ninja: Wait do they make those:thinking:

[h22 jones]

Im sure i want even get the full capabillity out of the pro 3s but they will do what i want to do . Hell the pro 2s would do what i want to do . Honestly the motor in my dads car hooked to a h2b tranny in a lighter chasis would do what i want to .

DRAG GREGGS SHIT BOX DOWN THE ROAD LMAO.

[112480]

DRAG GREGGS SHIT BOX DOWN THE ROAD LMAO.

Well mike by all means, you can be the first to do so:taun::yes:

[h22 jones]

By the grocery getter first? since we role racing anyway im sure it will hold its on.

Im also sure the grocery getter will tow your k series down the track lol.

[stretch]

Over what? That you act like an assclown online most of the time? I mean you're amusing to watch and I get some grins for sure but man have you ever gone back and read what you have written?

amen

[stretch]

Now why would i do that when i can continue to piss u and stretch off!!??

lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

ur crazy if u think ur pissing us off,,,, we zre laughing at u buddy, u r hilarious....... all lip and no action, so we laugh at flakers...laugh

[1civic]

No racing?? WTF people, all this "ass talking" (talking out your ass) and no action!! Worthless bunch of Hillbilly's damn!!

Lets get busy, buy parts, buy a car, something!!

Mikejones said he'd build a K, donate that shit and he'll be in the game!!

Hell someone donate a K to me and I'll piss on it!!!

LOL

Later!!

[h22 jones]

last race out west that i kept up with all motor street had a 10.5 h2b car ,10.5 b series car and a couple 10.5 k series cars . Yes the k series pepsie car went 10.4 and 10.2 but broke lol.

point being i just cant see why gregg is stuck on k series is the greastest and only motor . Do i think you have to have a k series to compete in all motor pro out west sure but this isnt out west and either motor is capable of doing what were trying to do if its built right (b series just cost to much not worth it).

Has anybody ever built a 400 hp na h series nope but unless you are a shop you are not going to own one either . It takes either a tone of money to build plus keep up a motor when it gets to a certain point and its going to happen if you cant build it yourself . I would say 320hp is about the limit of any na motor thats going to stay together long enough to make it worth somebody other then a shop to maintain .


Gregg can shout 400hp all he wants but it will . If he ever makes over 300 hp ill be impressed . Hell i know all the tricks and if i make over 300 hp i will be impressed . Its just not that easy . I dont care if you knew every part off a 350-400hp motor there are only a hand ful of people that could assemble a motor of that caliber simple as that . I know it doesnt matter what i say nobody will understand just how hard it is till they get into it . Hell you wouldnt beleive the work that goes into building a 250hp na motor more or less one over 300.

gregg in the quarter mile how much time do you think you will dropp going from 27*hp to 320 hp ? That fifty hp might make 4 tenths difference if everything is set up perfect . Hp isnt everything .

[112480]

ur crazy if u think ur pissing us off,,,, we zre laughing at u buddy, u r hilarious.

Its about time you get it stretch. remember your "gregg we're cool so lets keep it that way" comment? surely you werent mad,ticked off or annoyed then right:crazy::crazy::crazy:

Damn stretch think about it. If i dont act like an assclown(on here) or bobby doesnt talk shit the way he does or if vteckidd doesnt give his opinion and piss people off etc etc, the kills forum would be boring.

Look back at threads in the kills forum and tell me which threads got the most views and reply in it. I think you will see that i'm an "assclown" in all of them and vteckidd giving his "opinions" and bobby talking shit etc etc etc.

Wheres the thread with 2500+views and 250+ comments thats just "casual" talk as of late?:thinking: LOL! Have fun dog and stop getting serious!:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::boobies::boob ies::boobies::crazy::crazy::crazy:

[112480]

By the grocery getter first? since we role racing anyway im sure it will hold its on.

Im also sure the grocery getter will tow your k series down the track lol.

Mike i want YOUR grocery getter first:taun:

[112480]

last race out west that i kept up with all motor street had a 10.5 h2b car ,10.5 b series car and a couple 10.5 k series cars . Yes the k series pepsie car went 10.4 and 10.2 but broke lol.

point being i just cant see why gregg is stuck on k series is the greastest and only motor . Do i think you have to have a k series to compete in all motor pro out west sure but this isnt out west and either motor is capable of doing what were trying to do if its built right (b series just cost to much not worth it).

Has anybody ever built a 400 hp na h series nope but unless you are a shop you are not going to own one either . It takes either a tone of money to build plus keep up a motor when it gets to a certain point and its going to happen if you cant build it yourself . I would say 320hp is about the limit of any na motor thats going to stay together long enough to make it worth somebody other then a shop to maintain .


Gregg can shout 400hp all he wants but it will . If he ever makes over 300 hp ill be impressed . Hell i know all the tricks and if i make over 300 hp i will be impressed . Its just not that easy . I dont care if you knew every part off a 350-400hp motor there are only a hand ful of people that could assemble a motor of that caliber simple as that . I know it doesnt matter what i say nobody will understand just how hard it is till they get into it . Hell you wouldnt beleive the work that goes into building a 250hp na motor more or less one over 300.

[quote]Hp isnt everything .

man dont i know.lol!


Who said anything about 400hp? who said anything about 320hp? LOL! Mike you know i'm fucking with you just so you can rise the h2b world out of darkness:crazy::goodjob: Especially since k series is "so expensive" vs the all mighty (UBER LOW COSTING) h2b:yes: And mike when exactly did i say K series was the greatest all motor platform?? I like h2b but i like fucking with you more:crazy:

[David88vert]

Well david lets see if you can do it:D

Not a problem. I should be back at the track next month, and will be spending a little time getting some seat time in it (haven't driven it in a while). You can bring your race car then, and take a shot at my DD.

[justnprsh07]

Im just talking shit i bought pro 3s lol.

I bought some pro3s for $50 oe of the ears on the exhaust cam was broke off so I just welded it up and machined it back down so saved about 600 on that one

[h22 jones]

Thats hardened steal and its alot weaker since you welded it up but good luck . I bought a brand new set for 500 brand new i like my deal better lol.

[Moseley]

Hey Gregg maybe you should just let Justin weld up your cams and you'll be good to go :taun:

[05dc5s]

Hey Gregg maybe you should just let Justin weld up your cams and you'll be good to go :taun:

And you say I am relentless? Lol.

Well then again I did call him an assclown.

[112480]

Hey Gregg maybe you should just let Justin weld up your cams and you'll be good to go :taun:

LOL!

[1civic]

It's fuckin hot outside!!!

Just sayin!!

Later!

[91s13]

who wanna meet me at commerce

[1civic]

who wanna meet me at commerce

NHRA stuff going on no TNT (LUCAS OIL DRAG RACING SERIES)

http://www.atlantadragway.com/apcm/templates/schedule.asp?articleid=44005&zoneid=38&navsource=2011%20Schedule

[91s13]

NHRA stuff going on no TNT

http://www.atlantadragway.com/apcm/templates/schedule.asp?articleid=44005&zoneid=38&navsource=2011%20Schedule

thought that was last weekend

[1civic]

We can go to steele!!!

http://www.alabamainternationaldragway.com/index.html

[1civic]

thought that was last weekend

(LUCAS OIL DRAG RACING SERIES)

[112480]

Well then again I did call him an assclown.

And u hurt my feelings:cry::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

[1civic]

And u hurt my feelings:cry::lmfao::lmfao::lmfao:

Tell james to fix your junk so I can butt hurt you with my B series!!! :P

[91s13]

We can go to steele!!!

http://www.alabamainternationaldragway.com/index.html

Is that in Montgomery. Nevermind that drive is too far for me today.

[112480]

Tell james to fix your junk so I can butt hurt you with my B series!!! :P

LOL! U could never butt hurt me:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao: U have other pressing matters right now:yes:

[1civic]

LOL! U could never butt hurt me:lmfao::lmfao::lmfao: U have other pressing matters right now:yes:

My shit runs though.. :)

[1civic]

Anything wrong here? lmao.. 9500rpms takes it's toll after 2 years!!
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt292/RUHOLY/IMAG0290.jpg

[112480]

My shit runs though.. :)

This is true, but so does my crx. LOL! so what? u still have other pressing matters to attend to:yes: lol! u could never get to me bobby as this is racing which i do not take seriously:taun:

[1civic]

This is true, but so does my crx. LOL! so what? u still have other pressing matters to attend to:yes: lol! u could never get to me bobby as this is racing which i do not take seriously:taun:

But you do, or I will make you :P .. Come with that CRX, I need some gas money!! LOL

[justnprsh07]

Thats hardened steal and its alot weaker since you welded it up but good luck . I bought a brand new set for 500 brand new i like my deal better lol.

Never said I welded it... I just know ppl that can do shit like that and make it work. Im not trying to build a daily...

[1civic]

Greg!!! Where you at Greg?? Come out the bushes Greg!! LOL......

[112480]

Greg!!! Where you at Greg?? Come out the bushes Greg!! LOL......

Shit i told you yesterday or the other day we could do this and to meet me at mainstream. i was there tuesday. where were u? lol! D16z6 with DX tranny FTW on ur ass!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! u were scared. thats why you never replied:lmfao:

[1civic]

Shit i told you yesterday or the other day we could do this and to meet me at mainstream. i was there tuesday. where were u? lol! D16z6 with DX tranny FTW on ur ass!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! u were scared. thats why you never replied:lmfao:

I can't hurt your feelings like that, tell you what I'll do.. I'll let you pick a certain turbo accord!!! Kk?:boobies:

[112480]

I can't hurt your feelings like that, tell you what I'll do.. I'll let you pick a certain turbo accord!!! Kk?:boobies:

?? what accord?

[1civic]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoY7oLmnMW0&NR=1

[1civic]

?? what accord?

Your engine builder and butt buddy's car... Bring it!!

:hump: :look:


:cheers:

[112480]

Your engine builder and butt buddy's car... Bring it!!

:hump: :look:


:cheers:

Sounds like u got beef with him? call him and you guys can make up:haha:

[112480]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoY7oLmnMW0&NR=1

nice:goodjob:

[1civic]

Sounds like u got beef with him? call him and you guys can make up:haha:

No beef, he's my shaft man!!:bannana:

[EmminoDaGreat]

I'm the giver not the receiver damnit

[h22 jones]

Never said I welded it... I just know ppl that can do shit like that and make it work. Im not trying to build a daily...

more of a question then a statement im not up on all that stuff. I mean they have to weld regrinds just thought there was more of a process to it either way 50 bucks who cares lol. Personaly i would just order the one that broke unless they cut them in paisr which i doubt on a mass produced cam .

[h22 jones]

Anything wrong here? lmao.. 9500rpms takes it's toll after 2 years!!
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt292/RUHOLY/IMAG0290.jpg

Clean the old spring out and get another two years out of it or weld the old spring back in and get three more years true story ok maybe not lol.

[h22 jones]

assclown lmao.

Could anybody imagine greggs big ass in a clown suit id pay to see that shit lmao.

[1civic]

Got bored since greg will not come out the bushes!
http://youtu.be/zkiP7zEAjkk

[h22 jones]

weak :)

[1civic]

weak :)

I know, that's why I posted it..:tongue1:

[jerseyef9]

Got bored since greg will not come out the bushes!
http://youtu.be/zkiP7zEAjkk


:gay:

[smote]

"5 grand won't get you a 250-260whp b series. It'll take more than that and it'll take skill, the only 3 motors making over 230 were either built by Bisi (streetstuff) or DFE (me and chip).

I'd be very surprised to see a real 250whp b series on a dynojet in Georgia. I do not believe one exists."

For the record, Chip built his own motor. DFE only ported the head. As for the amount of power it makes, I won't say. But, it did run 11.6 a couple of weeks ago and he's got some more in the bag.

[David88vert]

For $5K, you'd better get a lot more than 250 hp. $5K can get 700+ rwhp on a Windsor or LSX platform. That makes up for the weight increase.

[stretch]

"5 grand won't get you a 250-260whp b series. It'll take more than that and it'll take skill, the only 3 motors making over 230 were either built by Bisi (streetstuff) or DFE (me and chip).

I'd be very surprised to see a real 250whp b series on a dynojet in Georgia. I do not believe one exists."

For the record, Chip built his own motor. DFE only ported the head. As for the amount of power it makes, I won't say. But, it did run 11.6 a couple of weeks ago and he's got some more in the bag.

niceeeeeeee..... yall should bring it out to play sometime.... we would love to see it

[smote]

It was the blue CRX at Import Showdown

[1civic]

For $5K, you'd better get a lot more than 250 hp. $5K can get 700+ rwhp on a Windsor or LSX platform. That makes up for the weight increase.

Again your back on the V8 vs Honda shit.... But to argue, I don't see anyone buying a foxbody, winsor block, and good heads for 5k then making 700hp.. The motor alone with parts and machine work would net you maybe 450-500hp, and that's a 420ci 351, then you would need the kool aid to hit 600-700..:thinking: Turbo kit would cost to much, unless your a fabricator..

I see your point, but go ride in a 250-300hp N/A honda that weighs 1800lbs..:goodjob:

[*EFilliated*]

:lmfao:


"5 grand won't get you a 250-260whp b series. It'll take more than that and it'll take skill, the only 3 motors making over 230 were either built by Bisi (streetstuff) or DFE (me and chip).

I'd be very surprised to see a real 250whp b series on a dynojet in Georgia. I do not believe one exists."

For the record, Chip built his own motor. DFE only ported the head. As for the amount of power it makes, I won't say. But, it did run 11.6 a couple of weeks ago and he's got some more in the bag.

[1civic]

It was the blue CRX at Import Showdown

You must be VtecKidd's brother huh? Stuck in '05 much... LOL

[1civic]

:lmfao:

Don't they not know a b20/v with cams will make 230.. WTF is wrong with him and Vteckidd??:fire:


LOL

[jerseyef9]

Don't they not know a b20/v with cams will make 230.. WTF is wrong with him and Vteckidd??:fire:


LOL

you be surprise how many 250 bseries are acturally in ga :cry::bigsmilie

[1civic]

you be surprise how many 250 bseries are acturally in ga :cry::bigsmilie

I do know a bunch of people don't care to post numbers!!!

I'm sure we have a few close to that 250 mark though.. ;)

[*EFilliated*]

lol


Don't they not know a b20/v with cams will make 230.. WTF is wrong with him and Vteckidd??:fire:


LOL

[1civic]

http://youtu.be/fZjcHX0EmMc

[smote]

2005 got the all motor pro class smoked in 2011.

[David88vert]

Again your back on the V8 vs Honda shit.... But to argue, I don't see anyone buying a foxbody, winsor block, and good heads for 5k then making 700hp.. The motor alone with parts and machine work would net you maybe 450-500hp, and that's a 420ci 351, then you would need the kool aid to hit 600-700..:thinking: Turbo kit would cost to much, unless your a fabricator..

I see your point, but go ride in a 250-300hp N/A honda that weighs 1800lbs..:goodjob:

I can build a 408 stroker out of a 351W, put some TFS TW 225s on it, OTS cam, and that will make over 500rwhp all day long. 250 shot in it and you are over 700. That is a lot more power, and foxbodys can be lightened to under 2700 with ease.

[1civic]

I can build a 408 stroker out of a 351W, put some TFS TW 225s on it, OTS cam, and that will make over 500rwhp all day long. 250 shot in it and you are over 700. That is a lot more power, and foxbodys can be lightened to under 2700 with ease.

I know all that man, still need a light car, and susp.. Your comparing apples to oranges though!! Go back to your V8 thread
I've been there done that, my dad raised me on pushrods, and circle tracks! I've worked on the mud motors, I'm good man.. I have no where near 5k in my whole car!! I might have 3k in my motor/tranny, then the 600 shell which has every part in-tacked!!

[*EFilliated*]

Let's not talk for other peoples cars, if disco monkey wanna come in here and brag about his car then let him do say. Until then sit in the stands and spectate.


2005 got the all motor pro class smoked in 2011.

[David88vert]

I know all that man, still need a light car, and susp.. Your comparing apples to oranges though!! Go back to your V8 thread
I've been there done that, my dad raised me on pushrods, and circle tracks! I've worked on the mud motors, I'm good man.. I have no where near 5k in my whole car!! I might have 3k in my motor/tranny, then the 600 shell which has every part in-tacked!!

So if you want to stick to 4 cylinder only, and your main arguments are cost and weight, then get a bike. Cheaper and faster by far, especially if you are gutting a car to cut weight.
Gets better MPG also.

Sent from my HTC HD2 using Tapatalk

[boosted347]

Whats more fun, getting sideways in a rwd or torque steer in a fail wheel drive, just saying...

[Vteckidd]

It was the blue CRX at Import Showdown

I'm just going by what Don told me 5-6 years ago. I delivered chip his PRO2 cams somewhere outside savannah I think on a trip back from Dons.

I swear don said he built his motor, or engine dynoed it. He also did tell me chips made less than mine but wouldn't tell me an exact number. But again that was 5-6 years ago

[Vteckidd]

I do know a bunch of people don't care to post numbers!!!

I'm sure we have a few close to that 250 mark though.. ;)

I call bullshit I'm sorry. It's easy to say "oh I make that but I'm not gonna post or show numbers". 250whp is not easy to make and I know what it takes on a b series. It takes $2000-3000 jenveys, PRO3 cams, 12+ compression, 2.0+, and precision assembly. You can't just slap it together.

I'll pay ANYONE $100 and pay for their dyno time if they show up at mainstream and break 250whp with a B SERIES. So there's your chance to prove it. Email me [email protected] and I will keep it confidential.

That's how positive I am that maybe 1-2 exist if that.

And b20/vtec don't make 230 with just cams. If they do, again I'd love to see it. I went out and street raced in 2009 and early 2010. NO ONE had anything remotely fast all motor unless it was an h2b or k series.

El-canigri had a 2.0l he bought/traded from me that DFE built that made 220-230 IIRC.

If you are out there, I just gave you an easy way to make $100.

If people want to sit there and say "oh they are everywhere but dont want to post numbers" then I'll say I built a motor last week that made more than 260, but you'll never see it, and I won't post an proof. There that's the exact same ludicrous claim. But I bet no one will let me get awa with it, so I'm not gonna let anyone else either.

[Vteckidd]

2005 got the all motor pro class smoked in 2011.

I'll give the new guys credit, k series and h2b is cool and there's some guys making good power. But they haven't touched what we did 5 years ago with B series. That's a fact.

But it doesn't matter because we are old and they'll just say "oh we dont have to prove anything " or were living in the past or some other excuse.

Or it'll be how don ported chips head andhe can't build anything, or how I had don build my motor and I don't know what I'm talking about blah blah blah

Smote, me, chip, Johnzm, Ken, chunky, cory garcia, Jason Wallace, we were all making 210-240 when everyone else was making nothing

[MidnightAuto]

I call bullshit I'm sorry. It's easy to say "oh I make that but I'm not gonna post or show numbers". 250whp is not easy to make and I know what it takes on a b series. It takes $2000-3000 jenveys, PRO3 cams, 12+ compression, 2.0+, and precision assembly. You can't just slap it together.

I'll pay ANYONE $100 and pay for their dyno time if they show up at mainstream and break 250whp with a B SERIES. So there's your chance to prove it. Email me [email protected] and I will keep it confidential.

That's how positive I am that maybe 1-2 exist if that.

And b20/vtec don't make 230 with just cams. If they do, again I'd love to see it. I went out and street raced in 2009 and early 2010. NO ONE had anything remotely fast all motor unless it was an h2b or k series.

El-canigri had a 2.0l he bought/traded from me that DFE built that made 220-230 IIRC.

If you are out there, I just gave you an easy way to make $100.

If people want to sit there and say "oh they are everywhere but dont want to post numbers" then I'll say I built a motor last week that made more than 260, but you'll never see it, and I won't post an proof. There that's the exact same ludicrous claim. But I bet no one will let me get awa with it, so I'm not gonna let anyone else either.
What about if I just post a Dynojet dyno sheet can I get the $100.:D And if I post more than one, can I get a 100 per sheet? Cuz if so you're gonna owe me about a $1000...lol

[Vteckidd]

Anyways who all is making it tomorrow? I'm gonna try to get down there , 3 hour drive??!!

Good luck to ANYONE competing, even Bobby. Well, maybe not him, but anyone else :p

Jk

[Vteckidd]

What about if I just post a Dynojet dyno sheet can I get the $100.:D And if I post more than one, can I get a 100 per sheet? Cuz if so you're gonna owe me about a $1000...lol

no, cause dyno can be manipulated, dynapacs aren't the same as dynojets, etc

I was clear . 250whp+ on MAINSTREAMS DYNO WITH A B SERIES AND I WILL PAY THAT PERSON $100

I want it on the same dyno as the other high Hp motors dyno in the state. That's legit and fair

[MidnightAuto]

Anyways who all is making it tomorrow? I'm gonna try to get down there , 3 hour drive??!!

Good luck to ANYONE competing, even Bobby. Well, maybe not him, but anyone else :p

Jk
I dont think we are gonna make it (Gregg is prolly gonna have a field day with that). But we are still setting up shop and there is too much to do.

[MidnightAuto]

no, cause dyno can be manipulated, dynapacs aren't the same as dynojets, etc

I was clear . 250whp+ on MAINSTREAMS DYNO WITH A B SERIES AND I WILL PAY THAT PERSON $100

I want it on the same dyno as the other high Hp motors dyno in the state. That's legit and fair
How can I manipulate the dynojet to read higher... Cuz you would be teaching me something I dont know how to do?

[MidnightAuto]

no, cause dyno can be manipulated, dynapacs aren't the same as dynojets, etc

I was clear . 250whp+ on MAINSTREAMS DYNO WITH A B SERIES AND I WILL PAY THAT PERSON $100

I want it on the same dyno as the other high Hp motors dyno in the state. That's legit and fair
How long is this offer on the table????

[Vteckidd]

I dont think we are gonna make it (Gregg is prolly gonna have a field day with that). But we are still setting up shop and there is too much to do.

Nah that's respectable man shop> race. There's always another race. Getting your doors open to make your money is more important I totally agree.

I'm off all day if you need any help :p

[MidnightAuto]

Nah that's respectable man shop> race. There's always another race. Getting your doors open to make your money is more important I totally agree.

I'm off all day if you need any help :p

Thanx for the offer...

[Vteckidd]

How long is this offer on the table????

You email me when you're ready. $100 is worth me seeing a 250whp b series all motor.

[MidnightAuto]

Nah that's respectable man shop> race. There's always another race. Getting your doors open to make your money is more important I totally agree.

I'm off all day if you need any help :p

Thanx for the offer...

[Vteckidd]

How long is this offer on the table????

You email me when you're ready. $100 is worth me seeing a 250whp b series all motor.

[*EFilliated*]

Mike u wanna pay for towing fees also. Lol. Mainstream ain't around the corner

[Vteckidd]

Mike u wanna pay for towing fees also. Lol. Mainstream ain't around the corner
That's the only dyno I trust, dynoed on, etc

So you'd have to drive there. Hey if "you" make it and don't want to prove it that's perfectly fine, no big deal.

I made an offer of anyone wants to take me up on it

[MidnightAuto]

That's the only dyno I trust, dynoed on, etc

So you'd have to drive there. Hey if "you" make it and don't want to prove it that's perfectly fine, no big deal.

I made an offer of anyone wants to take me up on it
I will just need some time to get organized.. But back to how to manipulate a dynojet... How?

[smote]

I'm just going by what Don told me 5-6 years ago. I delivered chip his PRO2 cams somewhere outside savannah I think on a trip back from Dons.

I swear don said he built his motor, or engine dynoed it. He also did tell me chips made less than mine but wouldn't tell me an exact number. But again that was 5-6 years ago

You are thinking of Chris. He is working on getting the DTA straightened out. Should be 250-260 whp based off what Don's engine dyno showed.

[Vteckidd]

Really? Chip is from south GA right?

[smote]

yep. We all live in the same town. Chris has the jenvey's and skunk2 head on the 2.0 gsr that don built. Very sick pump gas motor.

[112480]

I dont think we are gonna make it (Gregg is prolly gonna have a field day with that). But we are still setting up shop and there is too much to do.

Naw man. You got to understand something about me. i LOVE talking shit,BUT business is business weather its personal or so forth. This is Racing and IS NOT to be taken serious, UNLESS it was your profession. You build and tune street cars. NOT 8000 hp dragsters! Your shop is MORE IMPORTANT than a damn race at the track. The track is going NOWHERE! The events are going NOWHERE! Handle your business and finish setting up your shop. You guys heave PLENTY of time to race. Next event is July 30 in Montgomery and thats Import Showdown.

[h22 jones]

Mike u wanna pay for towing fees also. Lol. Mainstream ain't around the corner

Ill supply another 100 for towing fees if your car is a b series and hits 250hp.

Im not saying its as hasrd as mike is saying it is but the simple fact is you have to know your shit . So unless there is a shop in georgia that specializes in all motor builds its even going to nbe hard for a shop to do it .

I dont care if you could disco monkey and he gave you his exact setup or i told you what i had in our 250plus motor unless you got a shop that fools with all motor hondas alot your not going to make the power and its not going to stay together.

Simple fact . I can build a h22,Gsr ,Kseries motor in one day as long as all the parts are sitting there that can make over 600hp with a realy nice turbo kist on it.

Unless it is a certain build that you have done numerus times it will take you weeks to build a 250plus all motor build simple as that.

I have much respect for disco monkeys car but he did slap a b series motor together and come kill everybody in the all motor pro class .
Number one calling it a pro class is a joke but i had to get them to do something so we could compete with slicks.
Number two he has had hie setup for along time and done his home work, He knows his shit and for that i give him props he has a very nice set up.
Number three i dont car who you think you are unless you know don or another all motor builder that knows there shit your not going to come into the honda game and build yourself a 250hp b series by yourserlf so you better make some good all motor friends that you can ask a tone of questions or your going to get your feelings hurt fast. The kinda of knowledge you need for these motors is not something you can be told its something you just have to learn .

Not trying to pick on gregg because hopefully he has hie buggs worked out this time . He bought the best parts and did a tone of research hell his car set for four years and he knows anybody he needs to know to figure out what makes power but yet he fail 30hp short of his own goal of 300hp .Once again yes its just that hard .

I have lose 20hp from swapping timing belts and lost 20hp from movind one cam gear one degrees .You have to know your shit.

[h22 jones]

It takes cubic inches to make all motor hp period. Yes you can use rpms to compensate but how long does a motor reving to 10,000 last ? Bobby ,mosely if yaw revee your cars that high and they stay together im happy for you but dont post a smart comment because the people need to know the reality of the all motor world . Odds are it want last and there again it takes a tone of knowledge just to get it to crank up with out self detonating.

Mike has stated several times he never thought the motor in my dads car would make what it makes but i proved him wrong so please you b series guys with these 250hp motors do the same thing ( Although i agree with mike maybe two 250hp b series motors in georgia).

If anybody that thinks there smarter then the average bear on here that has never built a all motor setup and want to prove just how easy it is let me know. I will tell you the ends and outs give you everybit of info i can and tell you what parts to buy and still after the build you will be calling me wondering were that 30hp went that you should have .
250hp also dont mean shit . Screw my build look at nemos . 11.5 compression (thats not shit) . Basic bolt in shit hell his motor was a seasy to assemble as a turbo build and he hit 251hp with our ported head . Does that mean it realy is that easy nope because that 251hp number didnt mean shit when i made over 20hp across the power band then he did . Hell threw a set of por 3s in his car turn the piss out of it and make 260hp. Put a 5.0 final drive in the trany and made 270hp but it will never run the times of a 250,260,270hp motor .

Disco motor is the real deal and it supposedly makes more power now then it used to but he still has to turn it between 9,000-10,000 rpms . If it ate cams up before, that wasnt as aggresive as the ones in his motor. How long you think these will last. Im by no means hating on his build (its bad ass) just trying to get you to understand that all your home boys rideing around with ls vtecs arnt making 220hp more less 250hp and they dont have 11 second cars .They have 13 second cars.

You can have a mildly built h or k motor that makes 250hp and be dependable or you can basicaly build a all out b series drag motor to it up to you.

I understand everybody loves there motors and defends them . I dont understand why you want to get on the computer and try to make these kids that dont know about all motor builds beleive that there are all these 250hp b series riding around because its so easy to do.

Mike might can remember were i was reading this years ago because i cant . I just remember a guy decided to make as much all motor hp that he could and i want to think he used a 10,000 or 20,000 dollar budget .Im not sure but basicaly he had a endless budget to make as much power possable . All i remember is it wasnt no were near what you think it would be (like 270hp i think maybe nott that) and this guy had the best shit made maybe even a plate welded to the block there again i cant remeber . He also had the best of the best builders taking part in this and it wasnt far from 250hp but we have a bunch of back yard built or shop built (that normaly builds turbo motors) 250hp b series motors running bull shit man it just isnt happeneing .

Tell me there are 20 330hp k series riding around in georgia id say very possible. tell me there are 20 330hp h series riding around id say bull shit nobody builds high hp h builds but me and a hand full of peole out west. My point is word gets out no matter who is keeping there shit hush , hush and if you read enough you can see tell on a average what is normal and what isnt . A 250hp b series isnt a normal build that everybody does period.

[h22 jones]

Its easy nobody has to name names there are several people on here that own shops or have worked at them . I have stated my opinion and so has mike . Strech you have been around it all tell me how many 250hp b series motors you have seen . I dont mean well i heard or he said . Actual motors you saw dynoed . He owns a shop and seen it all if he says 50 ill beleive him he has no reason to lie so let us know man.

[h22 jones]

Anybody going to alabama tomorrow hit me up i want to go but not riding that far by myslef . 478-808-9122

[stretch]

we will do better... we will post some dyno sheet of 250 AND UP b series that we have done buddy..... just for u....lol

[*EFilliated*]

i love how i get my signature pic deleted with no explanation :2up:

[stretch]

i love how i get my signature pic deleted with no explanation :2up:

its funny.... me and morris was just asking wat happen to ur pic

[1civic]

You email me when you're ready. $100 is worth me seeing a 250whp b series all motor.

raise it to 500 and I'll put a car on there!!!!

Don't make excuses and say you can't do this or that, just pay the 500!!

KK, goodnight!!

[stretch]

raise it to 500 and I'll put a car on there!!!!

Don't make excuses and say you can't do this or that, just pay the 500!!

KK, goodnight!!

lmaooooooooooooooo..........................

[1civic]

i love how i get my signature pic deleted with no explanation :2up:


Punk ass MODS!! I bet they don't have the balls to step up and say who deleted the picture of your car ether!!

[1civic]

Look guys it's Tom and Jerry!!!

"Putting in work"
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt292/RUHOLY/IMAG0301.jpg

[112480]

Look guys it's Tom and Jerry!!!

"Putting in work"
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/tt292/RUHOLY/IMAG0301.jpg


LOL! Stretch putting in work:goodjob::goodjob::goodjob:

[Vteckidd]

we will do better... we will post some dyno sheet of 250 AND UP b series that we have done buddy..... just for u....lol

I was CLEAR. $100 bring it to mainstream, tow it, drive it, push it. I don't care

If it makes 250whp or MORE and it's a b series ALL MOTOR, i will pay for dyno time and give who ever it is $100. I didn't say post a dyno sheet.

Honestly I could care less what anyone's tuned in new York or up north. Im talking about a legitimate 250whp all motor b series in GEORGIA.

So either accept or not, doesn't matter to me

[Vteckidd]

raise it to 500 and I'll put a car on there!!!!

Don't make excuses and say you can't do this or that, just pay the 500!!

KK, goodnight!!

I'm sorry I missed where this was "let's make a deal". I threw out a challenge, I'm not willing to pay $500, I'm willing go pay $100 plus dyno time.

Theres no negotiating .If $100 isn't enough, so be it I'll continue to think no car in Georgia can crack 250 b series on MAINSTREAMS dyno.

[112480]

I was CLEAR. $100 bring it to MAINSTREAM, tow it, drive it, push it. I don't care

If it makes 250whp or MORE and it's a b series ALL MOTOR, i will pay for dyno time and give who ever it is $100. I didn't say post a dyno sheet.

Honestly I could care less what anyone's tuned in new York or up north. Im talking about a legitimate 250whp all motor b series in GEORGIA.

So either accept or not, doesn't matter to me

Yep, sounds pretty clear:goodjob:

[stretch]

I was CLEAR. $100 bring it to mainstream, tow it, drive it, push it. I don't care

If it makes 250whp or MORE and it's a b series ALL MOTOR, i will pay for dyno time and give who ever it is $100. I didn't say post a dyno sheet.

Honestly I could care less what anyone's tuned in new York or up north. Im talking about a legitimate 250whp all motor b series in GEORGIA.

So either accept or not, doesn't matter to me

i dont know if u realized but my statement was towards h22 jones, and i did quote him in my post sir...thanx

[stretch]

LOL! Stretch putting in work:goodjob::goodjob::goodjob:

yep... gotta get that dyno in the floor asap buddy...lmaoooo

[112480]

yep... gotta get that dyno in the floor asap buddy...lmaoooo

Hey you and morris still gonna do a dyno competition sometime in the fall or winter??

[1civic]

I was CLEAR. $100 bring it to mainstream, tow it, drive it, push it. I don't care

If it makes 250whp or MORE and it's a b series ALL MOTOR, i will pay for dyno time and give who ever it is $100. I didn't say post a dyno sheet.

Honestly I could care less what anyone's tuned in new York or up north. Im talking about a legitimate 250whp all motor b series in GEORGIA.

So either accept or not, doesn't matter to me

Chicken!!



I'm sure they are out there, but 100 is not worth much anymore.. 100 buks would only fill the gas tank in this day in age!! :cry: LOL

[*EFilliated*]

Yea sum BS that u Cnt rep a shop or advertise for one. Dumb


its funny.... me and morris was just asking wat happen to ur pic

[1civic]

Yea sum BS that u Cnt rep a shop or advertise for one. Dumb

Are the mods dumb? That shop closed down...LMAO!! That's not the name of the new shop here in Atlanta, dumb ass kids!!

Come on Mod show your face, who deleted his pic which had a car and shop name which is closed????

[*EFilliated*]

Lol


Are the mods dumb? That shop closed down...LMAO!! That's not the name of the new shop here in Atlanta, dumb ass kids!!

Come on Mod show your face, who deleted his pic which had a car and shop name which is closed????

[Moseley]

Just catching up on the thread. I don't think a 250whp B series at mainstream would impress me. If you said SAE corrected at mainstream that would be a little better but their dyno reads a little high and then they always have it showing STD corrected numbers.

So 250 STD is probably 240ish SAE on most other dyno jets here in GA. Surely there are a few cars making that sort of power around here.

[1civic]

Just catching up on the thread. I don't think a 250whp B series at mainstream would impress me. If you said SAE corrected at mainstream that would be a little better but their dyno reads a little high and then they always have it showing STD corrected numbers.

So 250 STD is probably 240ish SAE on most other dyno jets here in GA. Surely there are a few cars making that sort of power around here.

WINNER!!!!....LOL

[112480]

Just catching up on the thread. I don't think a 250whp B series at mainstream would impress me. If you said SAE corrected at mainstream that would be a little better but their dyno reads a little high and then they always have it showing STD corrected numbers.

So 250 STD is probably 240ish SAE on most other dyno jets here in GA. Surely there are a few cars making that sort of power around here.

Actually Moseley, mainstreams dyno reads lower than balance's, battleground's,import experts etc etc. They can put the numbers in SAE if u like:goodjob:

[05dc5s]

Actually Moseley, mainstreams dyno reads lower than balance's, battleground's,import experts etc etc. They can put the numbers in SAE if u like:goodjob:

Says the guy that's had his setup dynoed on one dyno to the guy thats had his setup dynoed on multiple dynos.

It's ok Greg if I were you I would want to believe that too.

[Moseley]

dyno #s FTL. How about we all just install G meters in our cars and start comparing numbers that actually mean something?

[stretch]

Hey you and morris still gonna do a dyno competition sometime in the fall or winter??

yes we are

[h22 jones]

I just want to know how many of them bud lights you have to drink to pick up that concrete saw strecth lmao. I used to operate heavy construction equipement for my dad and i always had to run the damn concrete saw and the hand tamps screw that . Ill go get a 8:00 hour temp before i ever pick up one again lmao.

[h22 jones]

i could realy give a rats ass about a b series dyno honestly lol. If you want to pm me the dyno on that k series hatch ill be glad to look at it lol.

My point was people stop making little smart comments that leads to these youger guys thinking its so easy to build a high all motor car thats it.

[Vteckidd]

Just catching up on the thread. I don't think a 250whp B series at mainstream would impress me. If you said SAE corrected at mainstream that would be a little better but their dyno reads a little high and then they always have it showing STD corrected numbers.

So 250 STD is probably 240ish SAE on most other dyno jets here in GA. Surely there are a few cars making that sort of power around here.

Sae to STD is max 5 whp.

Mine made 237 STD and 233 sae just FYI

And no I'm confident that as little as 1 or maybe 2 250whp b series exist tops. It's not easy

[Vteckidd]

Says the guy that's had his setup dynoed on one dyno to the guy thats had his setup dynoed on multiple dynos.

It's ok Greg if I were you I would want to believe that too.

Actually

Mainstream dynos higher than battleground, lower than balanced. From my extensive experience

USUALLY

[MidnightAuto]

Sae to STD is max 5 whp.

Mine made 237 STD and 233 sae just FYI

And no I'm confident that as little as 1 or maybe 2 250whp b series exist in Georgia. It's not easy
Fixed that for ya.....

[Vteckidd]

Well obviously I only mean Georgia.

Tbone made 250+ years ago. And I know others making that kinda power

Just not in georgia

[05dc5s]

Actually

Mainstream dynos higher than battleground, lower than balanced. From my extensive experience

USUALLY

I think that needs to be tested and may no longer be the case. Recently you stated that the new dyno reads higher and based on a couple of dynos I would tend to agree. But ultimately it's all speculation until tested.

Either way props to you putting up the challenge I hope someone steps up to take your money. :goodjob:

[Vteckidd]

Yeah I mean this was a long time ago. Here's why I think that way:

My 237whp Crx dynoed at mainstream at 10am, then I drove 10 miles to batlground for a "Honda tEch "meet and at 1115 I dynoed 228whp on their dyno

Shaggys itr eg made 172whp at balanced and 12 hours later made 185whp at mainstream

I've seen a ton of guys dyno higher at balanced that at mainstream

And I worked 3 years at mainstream and a year at batlground prob dynoed over 500-600 cars total.

But this was before MAINSTREAMS new dyno, and I haven't kept up with who makes what now and vice versa

[h22 jones]

Im not complaining because how hot it is or how cold it is all makes a difference . Im just stating this for the sake of the argument .

Our car same setup made less on the new mainstream dyno then the old one lol. Food for thought . We are talking 5hp which could have been contributed to anything no big deal.. I just made this satement because of the statements that the new dyno is higher .

Either way if it is thats a even more reason to take mikes bet right?

There are alot of shops that know there shit in the all motor world out west and im sure are alot of realy nice b series builds just not in georgia. We are so far behind and anybody new coming in the game would choose k series anyway.

[1civic]

Im not complaining because how hot it is or how cold it is all makes a difference . Im just stating this for the sake of the argument .

Our car same setup made less on the new mainstream dyno then the old one lol. Food for thought . We are talking 5hp which could have been contributed to anything no big deal.. I just made this satement because of the statements that the new dyno is higher .

Either way if it is thats a even more reason to take mikes bet right?

There are alot of shops that know there shit in the all motor world out west and im sure are alot of realy nice b series builds just not in georgia. We are so far behind and anybody new coming in the game would choose k series anyway.

K is cool, but damn who has 1000+ for cams? That shit's wack, I'll stick to my B series until the K runs the town, but right now they don't.. ;)

My thought's are it will take less power in a B to out run a K from a dig or low roll.. The K game is not that big here, if it is where are they? I don't hear about 300hp K in GA. Not even 270, the only one I know is broke.. What's left the H, hell it needs a B series tranny to be anything..LOL

Atlanta is weak, end of story.. Fastest turbo car goes what 10.3, that is weak!!

And if the K is so great why is that the big dogs still boost the B? Riddle me that... Sucka's!!!

Later!!

[h22 jones]

I could show you quit a few nasty turbo k motors in georgia that will run with the big b series turbo cars.. hell the was a red si trapping 148 running tt at showdown.

I do agreew ith you bobby which is why i havnt went k . As for b series turbo hell you can make as much as a k series turbo so no need to go k thats a easy choice .

b series bolt right in ,there cheaper with more supporting mods then the k, and you can make as much turbo hp as a k so thats a no brainer .

Price to hp has always been my argument and i can build a nasty 250hp h motor for what a 200hp b series motor cost lol.

I will admite the h series tranny has been the hold back to the h world for years . H2b takes that out the question and lets the h series be more competetive .

[justnprsh07]

Thing nice about k series, rods pistons, stock sleeves, springs retainers and cams can make close to 900 with the right turbostuff.....no sleeving and porting the head like is a must with b and.h series

[1civic]

Why did Stretch get banned???

[Vteckidd]

Why did Stretch get banned???

Im not a mod but i can take a guess why he was banned and why effiliated sig was taken down.

You cant advertise for a shop that doesnt pay to sponsor IA. They are pretty strict about that. So having "midnight auto" in your sig, if they dont advertise, then mods will remove it. But they are suppsoed to warn first.

Banning stretch seems excessive, unless he was warned and they resisted

[Vteckidd]

Im not complaining because how hot it is or how cold it is all makes a difference . Im just stating this for the sake of the argument .

Our car same setup made less on the new mainstream dyno then the old one lol. Food for thought . We are talking 5hp which could have been contributed to anything no big deal.. I just made this satement because of the statements that the new dyno is higher .

Either way if it is thats a even more reason to take mikes bet right?

Well ive been extremely surprised several times on both dynoes (old and new). I mean i never expected a stock ITR with a header to make 200whp. You know HOW MANY people try to make 200whp on a 1.8L and never make it, with way crazier setups than mine. Ive seen cammed, built 1.8s not make 190.

Jasons motor i remember telling him it would make 200-210 tops, and first pull it made 222 then later 227. His "chipped " ebay skunk2 map made almost the same power as Scottys tuned map (peak whp) which 99 out of 100 cars , if they told me "i have an ebay skunk2 program" (which skunk2 NEVER offered any kind of skunk2 map) id say "itll be way off" and i would be right. His i wasnt. and i never expected his motor to make that kind of power based on his mods.

So things can change for sure



There are alot of shops that know there shit in the all motor world out west and im sure are alot of realy nice b series builds just not in georgia. We are so far behind and anybody new coming in the game would choose k series anyway.

simple fact is B Series is NOT EASY to make power on. H22 and Ks have better flowing heads, bigger motors which translates to more power, etc. I can name 10 H22s making over 230 in the last 2-3 years. I cant name 5 B series making that kind of power and there is a reason for it.

It has nothing to do with Georgia "being far behind". it has everything to do with not everyone can do it

[1civic]

Im not a mod but i can take a guess why he was banned and why effiliated sig was taken down.

You cant advertise for a shop that doesnt pay to sponsor IA. They are pretty strict about that. So having "midnight auto" in your sig, if they dont advertise, then mods will remove it. But they are suppsoed to warn first.

Banning stretch seems excessive, unless he was warned and they resisted

It says he was Banned for posting in wrong section..:thinking:

He got no warning and has not advertised, anyone can read threw his post...

[Vteckidd]

K is cool, but damn who has 1000+ for cams? That shit's wack, I'll stick to my B series until the K runs the town, but right now they don't.. ;)

Not entirely true, most of the fast NA cars are Ks right now, SOME bs like disco monkey, but mose, midnight, matt , gregg are all K.



My thought's are it will take less power in a B to out run a K from a dig or low roll.. The K game is not that big here, if it is where are they? I don't hear about 300hp K in GA. Not even 270, the only one I know is broke.. What's left the H, hell it needs a B series tranny to be anything..LOL

Simple is its NOT easy to make 300+ in a K just like its not easy to make 250+ in a B series. And All Motor is $$$$$ i dont care what greg or anyone else says, its MINIMUM $5000-6000 to make 250+ All motor, and more if its a K. You cant get around the fact that what it takes to make the power is built motors and all bolt ons, tuning etc. The AVERAGE person here cant just do all the work themselves. Very few people are like Chunky who can build a 250whp SAE motor. time , money, parts, it all ads up.


Atlanta is weak, end of story.. Fastest turbo car goes what 10.3, that is weak!!

10.1 is not the fastest. theres been several cars (peter, H+M) that have runs high 9s. Right now spoolin seems to be very competitive with his low 10 passes. But his car has more in it. 10 is FAST. Very few people across the country are running consistent 9s without sponsorships. Actually almost ALL the FWD import showdown and faceoff guys around the country are running 10.1s. All motor seems to be 11.2-11.3 is the winner.

So spooling is running 10.1s, thats consistent with the rest of the country. And Disco Monkey is running 11.5s, thats CLOSE to the K cars running 11.2-11.3 around the country.

So i disagree, we arent "weak"

And if the K is so great why is that the big dogs still boost the B? Riddle me that... Sucka's!!!

Later!!

COST. period. You can still be competive with B Series. Like i just stated, Spoolin=Turbo B and wins events and runs same times as rest of the country. Disco Monkey is right there with a B.

If matt can run 10.1s and win events with a 600whp B Series, why spend $5000 for a 800whp K? makes no sense. As far as NA goes, if you are starting from SCRATCH, K is the MOST expensive motor to swap and build. B is second, H is cheapest. Which is why H2B seems the way to go.

[justnprsh07]

Hurry up and get that shit in there so you can have a open house/dyno day and shut these ppl up talkin about what they wish they made

[Vteckidd]

It says he was Banned for posting in wrong section..:thinking:

He got no warning and has not advertised, anyone can read threw his post...

politely PM a mod . Well they said they were gonna ban people for posting in the wrong section=gayness.

Im not using Kiddracing anymore but i still own the site. I may convert it to a kills forum board and we can all post over there unrestricted.

[justnprsh07]

Not entirely true, most of the fast NA cars are Ks right now, SOME bs like disco monkey, but mose, midnight, matt , gregg are all K.



Simple is its NOT easy to make 300+ in a K just like its not easy to make 250+ in a B series. And All Motor is $$$$$ i dont care what greg or anyone else says, its MINIMUM $5000-6000 to make 250+ All motor, and more if its a K. You cant get around the fact that what it takes to make the power is built motors and all bolt ons, tuning etc. The AVERAGE person here cant just do all the work themselves. Very few people are like Chunky who can build a 250whp SAE motor. time , money, parts, it all ads up.



10.1 is not the fastest. theres been several cars (peter, H+M) that have runs high 9s. Right now spoolin seems to be very competitive with his low 10 passes. But his car has more in it. 10 is FAST. Very few people across the country are running consistent 9s without sponsorships. Actually almost ALL the FWD import showdown and faceoff guys around the country are running 10.1s. All motor seems to be 11.2-11.3 is the winner.

So spooling is running 10.1s, thats consistent with the rest of the country. And Disco Monkey is running 11.5s, thats CLOSE to the K cars running 11.2-11.3 around the country.

So i disagree, we arent "weak"


COST. period. You can still be competive with B Series. Like i just stated, Spoolin=Turbo B and wins events and runs same times as rest of the country. Disco Monkey is right there with a B.

If matt can run 10.1s and win events with a 600whp B Series, why spend $5000 for a 800whp K? makes no sense. As far as NA goes, if you are starting from SCRATCH, K is the MOST expensive motor to swap and build. B is second, H is cheapest. Which is why H2B seems the way to go.

I agree big time... Im building an all motor and go to dragcartel.com and youll see why its not a k,.if I was only looking for 275 to 300 I might could afford it but kseries is rediculously expensive

Also jimmy jones went 9.2 and nick should be well into the 9s alsobut there in maccon

[1civic]

politely PM a mod . Well they said they were gonna ban people for posting in the wrong section=gayness.

Im not using Kiddracing anymore but i still own the site. I may convert it to a kills forum board and we can all post over there unrestricted.

We are in off topic, and he made this thread.. Yes it was moved here, but look at the date started (5/15), why ban now and not then? Why not warn him?

And Midnight Auto is closed down!! So why delete the other guy's sig pic? I haven't seen him or Morris advertise the new shop name on here, so I have to say one of the Mod's are abusing their powers!!

[justnprsh07]

It says he was Banned for posting in wrong section..:thinking:

He got no warning and has not advertised, anyone can read threw his post...

This website is gay...i guess they think there somebody since they can control what you say and advertise but without us they have no website and should prob think about thay sometimes before they do stupid shit

[Vteckidd]

We are in off topic, and he made this thread.. Yes it was moved here, but look at the date started (5/15), why ban now and not then? Why not warn him?

And Midnight Auto is closed down!! So why delete the other guy's sig pic? I haven't seen him or Morris advertise the new shop name on here, so I have to say one of the Mod's are abusing their powers!!

you are complaining to the wrong person, i dont do anything with mods anymore im just like you, so all i can tell you is to ask

[MidnightAuto]

This website is gay...i guess they think there somebody since they can control what you say and advertise but without us they have no website and should prob think about thay sometimes before they do stupid shit

Yea thats seriously some BS... Being banned for posting in the wrong forum like 8 days later = pretty fuckin stupid...

[Vteckidd]

Yea thats seriously some BS... Being banned for posting in the wrong forum like 8 days later = pretty fuckin stupid...

complain to ADMIN on here, or PM one of the other higher up mods. They will reverse it thats kinda crossing the line

[1civic]

you are complaining to the wrong person, i dont do anything with mods anymore im just like you, so all i can tell you is to ask

naw, i just put that up to be known...

[1civic]

Not entirely true, most of the fast NA cars are Ks right now, SOME bs like disco monkey, but mose, midnight, matt , gregg are all K.



Simple is its NOT easy to make 300+ in a K just like its not easy to make 250+ in a B series. And All Motor is $$$$$ i dont care what greg or anyone else says, its MINIMUM $5000-6000 to make 250+ All motor, and more if its a K. You cant get around the fact that what it takes to make the power is built motors and all bolt ons, tuning etc. The AVERAGE person here cant just do all the work themselves. Very few people are like Chunky who can build a 250whp SAE motor. time , money, parts, it all ads up.



10.1 is not the fastest. theres been several cars (peter, H+M) that have runs high 9s. Right now spoolin seems to be very competitive with his low 10 passes. But his car has more in it. 10 is FAST. Very few people across the country are running consistent 9s without sponsorships. Actually almost ALL the FWD import showdown and faceoff guys around the country are running 10.1s. All motor seems to be 11.2-11.3 is the winner.

So spooling is running 10.1s, thats consistent with the rest of the country. And Disco Monkey is running 11.5s, thats CLOSE to the K cars running 11.2-11.3 around the country.

So i disagree, we arent "weak"


COST. period. You can still be competive with B Series. Like i just stated, Spoolin=Turbo B and wins events and runs same times as rest of the country. Disco Monkey is right there with a B.

If matt can run 10.1s and win events with a 600whp B Series, why spend $5000 for a 800whp K? makes no sense. As far as NA goes, if you are starting from SCRATCH, K is the MOST expensive motor to swap and build. B is second, H is cheapest. Which is why H2B seems the way to go.

I can see your point with Matt, but he's never used the 800 he made.. That is a waste, I'm not in the turbo game so I can't say much here..

With K series, unless you buy a car which has the swap then the cost is still high.. Stock K or built B in a civic, umm I'll take the cheaper route!
I will not at any point drop 10k in a car.. You would never see any return from that!! I do not hate on the K cars, but for me the cost is to much..
A car is not a good investment, but you must pay to play!!

As for the H, well I could use a 92/95mm crank in the B.. But the rod/stroke ratio is retarded!! Then you have to remove all the honda BS to make power in the H.. O then you have to buy some kit so you can install a tranny which has better gearing, making the H2B..LOL

Cost is the Key factor for me, I'm older and have bills so most all the money is gone.. Then having a son, well any extra I can spend I will, but NA seems to work since I know even if using OEM parts I can make a fun little car.. I enjoy more than a roll race or dig race, mountain runs, and twisties are fun to.. Honda to me with the handling and power to weight ratio just seems best suited as my toy!!

[DarKStaR]

I agree big time... Im building an all motor and go to dragcartel.com and youll see why its not a k,.if I was only looking for 275 to 300 I might could afford it but kseries is rediculously expensive

Also jimmy jones went 9.2 and nick should be well into the 9s alsobut there in maccon
Nick has to get out of the 12s before he goes 9s lulz, you cant talk a big game and have never made a full pass....


As far as stretch and morris, if it was for posting in the wrong section, It was for the thread they made in the normal kf section of the turbo integra, tell them to put it in here next time.....

[1civic]

As far as stretch and morris, if it was for posting in the wrong section, It was for the thread they made in the normal kf section of the turbo integra, tell them to put it in here next time.....
Your a mod fix it, this is the kills forum.. It's about racing, that was a racing video.. Why ban people in here when they make things pick up??

Edit:

It's not hard for a Mod to say hey man wrong section, please post in xxxx area!!

No pun here, just understand he doesn't know..LOL

NOOB ALERT!!

Later!

[DarKStaR]

Well on the mod's defense it has been posted that chit chat,videos,attn threads, etc.. be placed in the off-topic section and the other part be used for call outs only..... via this thread... http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?313528-New-rule-in-effect

If one of them gets in touch with the mod that did it, they might can talk to him about it...

[1civic]

Well on the mod's defense it has been posted that chit chat,videos,attn threads, etc.. be placed in the off-topic section and the other part be used for call outs only..... via this thread... http://www.importatlanta.com/forums/showthread.php?313528-New-rule-in-effect

If one of them gets in touch with the mod that did it, they might can talk to him about it...

Wow, OK lets ban people...lmao!!

It's no wonder these forums are dead.. :( with that and deleting people's post.. All these new mod's seem to make up their own rules, and go around deleting comments(post), banning people..:gay:


P.s

No where does it say ban will be in effect.. maybe you guys should edit the post and say:

1st time warning

2nd time 7 day ban

3rd time perma ban

That's a little more professional right?

I know it can get out of control in the other forums, but the Kills forum is dead.. We don't even need a mod in here!!

lmao

[DarKStaR]

actually the mod that did it has been a mod for over 2 years


Just tell stretch and morris to post videos in the off topic section from now on

[1civic]

actually the mod that did it has been a mod for over 2 years


Just tell stretch and morris to post videos in the off topic section from now on

I'll explain more, nether of them know and I'll be sure to tell him the rules are posted on top of each forum.. I understand the rules, but I've been here awhile.. ;)

[91s13]

They banned Greg - 112480 for the same reason too

[DarKStaR]

I'll explain more, nether of them know and I'll be sure to tell him the rules are posted on top of each forum.. I understand the rules, but I've been here awhile.. ;)
Thanks man, just trying to keep the peace around here lol


They banned Greg - 112480 for the same reason too
You act like that is a bad thing....;)

[91s13]

Thanks man, just trying to keep the peace around here lol


You act like that is a bad thing....;)

lol just saying

[1civic]

They banned Greg - 112480 for the same reason too

Really?

Well fuck it, we use this Off Topic to post up video's and small talk.. Mod's are pushing people away, but so be it I guess..:headslap:

[Vteckidd]

I can see your point with Matt, but he's never used the 800 he made.. That is a waste, I'm not in the turbo game so I can't say much here..

Easiest way i can equate it is i can run 13s in a 250whp car, i cant run 11.5s like Chip or others with a 250whp car. IE if matt only needs 600-700whp to win events, then why use the extra 100-200whp? Its like why shift at 9000 if you can shift at 8000. your motor will last longer.

Plus a 600-700whp car has A LOT going on, the potential for disaster is exponential. So i think what matt figured out a long time ago was LEARN the car at 500whp, then gradually move it up to 600,700,800 etc. Instead of just running out and running it at 40psi, learn the car, get all the bugs worked out, and gradually move up the ladder. For awhile he was building a car and running it balls out and melting pistons, breaking trannys, etc. Well i think he traded times for SEAT TIME. The only way you really get better is by practice. So if you go out at balls out and blow stuff up (WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENS WITH CARS RUNNING 30+PSI) you dont really get a chance to learn, adapt, and tweak settings. IMO of course


With K series, unless you buy a car which has the swap then the cost is still high.. Stock K or built B in a civic, umm I'll take the cheaper route!
I will not at any point drop 10k in a car.. You would never see any return from that!! I do not hate on the K cars, but for me the cost is to much..
A car is not a good investment, but you must pay to play!!

Agreed. I was 90% done with a K Swap 95 Civic, and i abandoned it cause i would have had a civic i had to sell for $9000 that maybe made 210whp tops. No thanks. I just lost interest and parted it out.


As for the H, well I could use a 92/95mm crank in the B.. But the rod/stroke ratio is retarded!! Then you have to remove all the honda BS to make power in the H.. O then you have to buy some kit so you can install a tranny which has better gearing, making the H2B..LOL
stroking a B Series is ok but you lose RPM which is kind of a tradeoff for any motor. But ill say the H is by far the easiest way to go. YOu can buy an H23 VTEC long block for $1000, B Series B16 trans for $500, H2B kits are $500-700, with a $300 replica header and cams, $100-150 intake manifold you can make 220-230whp out of a STOCK MOTOR with OEM reliability. its been done over an over again. you cannot do that with a B Series. No off the shelf B Series makes anywhere near that power, you HAVE to have a built motor

[1civic]

stroking a B Series is ok but you lose RPM which is kind of a tradeoff for any motor. But ill say the H is by far the easiest way to go. YOu can buy an H23 VTEC long block for $1000, B Series B16 trans for $500, H2B kits are $500-700, with a $300 replica header and cams, $100-150 intake manifold you can make 220-230whp out of a STOCK MOTOR with OEM reliability. its been done over an over again. you cannot do that with a B Series. No off the shelf B Series makes anywhere near that power, you HAVE to have a built motor

And when you add that cost you can see why I would rather build a B, I still like the handling of a B swapped coupe or hatch, with the added weight from an H you lose a little..

I had a H2B car, bought it for 6k... very nice EK hatch, made 207hp.. That car 1/8 mile felt great, by the 1/4 it fell off.. For roll racing on the Highway it sucked!! If I took it in the twisties under hard braking it wanted to spin out.. Not really my cup of tea, sold the car for the same price!!

So I'm still a cheap old man, and I'll take an ITR swapped coupe or hatch!! Those are the best bang for the buk!!


EDIT:

I can speak a little on the K cars, I made my sister buy an 06 SI.. That car was a lemon!! The throttle hung, tranny grinded, the car stayed in the shop because of the honda recalls and other problems.. Now given that is the motor I would choose for a swap, I would enjoy it better with the newer SI tranny, Hondata, intake, cams, and header, But again the cost is way to high..

[Vteckidd]

Like I said best car I ever owned was my 200whp stock itr motor. Beat on it and it never broke and was fun. all you had to do was hop in it and drive.

I bought the car for $2200, sold the b16 longblock for $950, bought the 10k mile itr motor for $1800, swapped it in. I had $3100 in a 200whp itr swapped LSD b16 tranny Crx. Not bad

[1civic]

I posted a video of the blk coupe with jdm ITR.. I paid 2600 for swap, 1000 for the car.. I have 3600 total in that car, and no matter what I could flip the car and make 4-5K.. Add the rims and skunk2 pro S coilovers I still make every penny back!! Great car for little to no cost, and I bet it will run with half the cars Atlanta has NA...LOL

That motor in the Integra with only header and s300 made 198hp on import experts dyno.. ;) And yes I have the dyno sheet, and video!!


Quick pull, no tac at the time, but thanks to james for pointing out no wire in the OB2 harness for tac..LOL
It's fixed now, runs on P72 with b16 header and stock civic exhaust.. 1 owner car, title shows 4 miles!! hahaha
Due time it will have header and exhaust with Morris tune, I'll post a sheet up!!

http://youtu.be/xVryXAt4bAs

[h22 jones]

There go as long as its a honda and you hustled to get it cheap im happy lol. H series has just always been my hustle and what i come out with cheaper at the end of the day lol. I have defended the h motor in many threads against the itr motors and the k motors but not to say it was a better motor. All ive ever said is i can build it cheaper.

Im not sure what they cost now but itr swaps were 4,500 dollars. I have that in my dads whole car lol built motor and all.

Im sure if we had a unlimited budget and didnt care how much money we put in a car our views would be different .

I dont know if yaw remember but me and tom had this same argument 10 years ago on here lol. He had a very nice and fast itr hatch but you cant say on a average itr swap run low 13 stock like he claims his did it just normaly dont happen .

[1civic]

There go as long as its a honda and you hustled to get it cheap im happy lol. H series has just always been my hustle and what i come out with cheaper at the end of the day lol. I have defended the h motor in many threads against the itr motors and the k motors but not to say it was a better motor. All ive ever said is i can build it cheaper.

Im not sure what they cost now but itr swaps were 4,500 dollars. I have that in my dads whole car lol built motor and all.

Im sure if we had a unlimited budget and didnt care how much money we put in a car our views would be different .

I dont know if yaw remember but me and tom had this same argument 10 years ago on here lol. He had a very nice and fast itr hatch but you cant say on a average itr swap run low 13 stock like he claims his did it just normaly dont happen .

I know your point, I've been lucky in the 10 years to find 2 ITR's swaps for dirt cheap.. One is JDM which has no Vin, the other is a USDM and has VIN.. I've always been a Ls/v fan myself.. If you can source parts cheap than so be it..

If I was a Baller like VtecHomo than I'd have other toys, and not a B series!! Lmao...:cheers:

Until then I'm stuck with putting something together I like for a DD, like this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miXYftlBS6M

[Vteckidd]

I can speak a little on the K cars, I made my sister buy an 06 SI.. That car was a lemon!! The throttle hung, tranny grinded, the car stayed in the shop because of the honda recalls and other problems.. Now given that is the motor I would choose for a swap, I would enjoy it better with the newer SI tranny, Hondata, intake, cams, and header, But again the cost is way to high..

My roomate had that car and i was very unimpressed. you could NOT shift into second above 6000 RPMs it would lock you out. Or it would grind to hell and back. Throttle hung really bad in between gears, i was just very unimpressed with it.

[1civic]

My roomate had that car and i was very unimpressed. you could NOT shift into second above 6000 RPMs it would lock you out. Or it would grind to hell and back. Throttle hung really bad in between gears, i was just very unimpressed with it.

Me ether, they reflashed the ecu(recall) and it was a little better but the tranny was junk.. they switched the 2nd with updated parts(recall) and I still broke it.. In was in the shop 5 times, once because Honda forget to tighten the strut and the whole wheel came off, a week after that she was T-boned and they totaled the car, I was happy.. But I missed pulling the motor because the INS. got the car with-in 3days.. I was close to my first K swap for cheap..LOL

[Moseley]

It will be interesting to see this same argument in another 2 or 3 years. think about a few things. Bs came mostly in integras and CRVs, and a few del sol vtecs and SIs, nothing else. Hs came in preludes and some accords over seas. Ks can come in a civic, rsx, accord, element, crv, tsx... there are millions of them in the world, far outnumbering Bs or Hs. Eventually I think they will become just as cheap as Bs or Hs. There are also more variations of Ks than the other motors, so there are tons of OEM parts to choose from.

K swaps can be done fairly cheap. not B or H cheap, but not much further off. Basically if you don't do K pro and like to do things yourself.

Base model RSX axles, fab up your own shifter mount, get a cheapo header, run a few wires yourself, do your own fuel line setup... it really isn't that expensive. I bet a K20A2 w/ 6spd could be swapped into a car for 4k everything included. Sure that is still more expensive than others but not bad I think to have a ~200whp completely reliable swap that can be built upon for a couple thousand more to easily make 230whp.

Ks are also great on maintenance. no distributor BS, super easy to work on. water pump and thermostat, all sensors, pulleys, etc. are very accessible. It really is a pleasure to wrench on those things. Every time I have to wrench on a B I get mad because it's all in the wrong place. bending over the car to work around the intake manifold. bleh.

Just had to add that in... Bobby maybe if you're hanging out with those guys you can wrench on a K swap a bit and I bet you'll understand what I'm saying!

[1civic]

It will be interesting to see this same argument in another 2 or 3 years. think about a few things. Bs came mostly in integras and CRVs, and a few del sol vtecs and SIs, nothing else. Hs came in preludes and some accords over seas. Ks can come in a civic, rsx, accord, element, crv, tsx... there are millions of them in the world, far outnumbering Bs or Hs. Eventually I think they will become just as cheap as Bs or Hs. There are also more variations of Ks than the other motors, so there are tons of OEM parts to choose from.

K swaps can be done fairly cheap. not B or H cheap, but not much further off. Basically if you don't do K pro and like to do things yourself.

Base model RSX axles, fab up your own shifter mount, get a cheapo header, run a few wires yourself, do your own fuel line setup... it really isn't that expensive. I bet a K20A2 w/ 6spd could be swapped into a car for 4k everything included. Sure that is still more expensive than others but not bad I think to have a ~200whp completely reliable swap that can be built upon for a couple thousand more to easily make 230whp.

Ks are also great on maintenance. no distributor BS, super easy to work on. water pump and thermostat, all sensors, pulleys, etc. are very accessible. It really is a pleasure to wrench on those things. Every time I have to wrench on a B I get mad because it's all in the wrong place. bending over the car to work around the intake manifold. bleh.

Just had to add that in... Bobby maybe if you're hanging out with those guys you can wrench on a K swap a bit and I bet you'll understand what I'm saying!

O trust me I know... It's the parts to make it all work that cost!! And your right on the nose with 4K, I could do a swap that cheap.. But compare what I listed, I have 2 cars right now with ITR's.. Both of which I have less than 4K in for everything out the door..

If I run into a k24a2 cheap then it's game on!!...LOL

Now there are other options like a3 to a2 head/ valve tran swap, etc.. But add mounts, Kpro, or Emobile-bypass, harness and cost goes up!!

If I was single, with no son well I'd sell what I have and buy all the shit.. But wife needed four door and truck eats me up in gas, so I built coupe for DD.. Red bubble needs a refresh and the EF i just ran across.. Just a matter of time and the Prices will come down, or I'll find a deal and the build will began.. Never said I would not do it, just takes much more cash than I have to play with.. :)

[Vteckidd]

hmmm id like to see the numbers but i think Bs were far more manufactured than Ks.

B16 came in 88-91 CRX and Civic SI, 92+ SIR, 96-00 Civic SI (US) and SIR
GSR came in 94-01 Integra GSR
B20 crv
LS 90-01 Integra

Thats ALOT of manufacturing years, granted B16 was mainly JDM, but GSR and ITR was here and abroad.

RSX was 02-06 (4 years only). 06-12 SI but how many of those are actually made compared to GSR or LS?

I think there are far more B Series in the world (although supply is running out) than K. Even the base model Civic doesnt come with a K yet, base model integra did

[1civic]

I can see a K24 rod and piston setup making 270, the cams are out there to make 300 with that.. Now Drag Cartel makes a shit load of aftermarket parts for the K that I dream to have but by the time I saved to buy the shit the parts would be old news!!...LOL

But yes the K is coming even I know that.. I have two light weights that would love to have a K as a heart!!!:yes:

Until then these cars will run on a diet, that includes me.. I may not win them all, but I will not be drug ether!!

Muwahahahah!!

[Moseley]

hmmm id like to see the numbers but i think Bs were far more manufactured than Ks.

B16 came in 88-91 CRX and Civic SI, 92+ SIR, 96-00 Civic SI (US) and SIR
GSR came in 94-01 Integra GSR
B20 crv
LS 90-01 Integra

Thats ALOT of manufacturing years, granted B16 was mainly JDM, but GSR and ITR was here and abroad.

RSX was 02-06 (4 years only). 06-12 SI but how many of those are actually made compared to GSR or LS?

I think there are far more B Series in the world (although supply is running out) than K. Even the base model Civic doesnt come with a K yet, base model integra did

If you are talking about K20s, yes... but don't forget the K24s... I bet half of all honda's sold in the US between 03 and now have had K24s in them...

[Moseley]

I can see a K24 rod and piston setup making 270, the cams are out there to make 300 with that.. Now Drag Cartel makes a shit load of aftermarket parts for the K that I dream to have but by the time I saved to buy the shit the parts would be old news!!...LOL

But yes the K is coming even I know that.. I have two light weights that would love to have a K as a heart!!!:yes:

Until then these cars will run on a diet, that includes me.. I may not win them all, but I will not be drug ether!!

Muwahahahah!!

It's getting a little crazy already. 2 years ago 300whp was quite a feat. Now people can do it with off the shelf parts. Can't imagine a couple more years from now...

I dunno how you claim such low weights on your cars. I could find maybe 50lbs to take out of the EG and I think that would be all without cutting it and it would still be well over 2000lbs with me in it.

[1civic]

It's getting a little crazy already. 2 years ago 300whp was quite a feat. Now people can do it with off the shelf parts. Can't imagine a couple more years from now...

I dunno how you claim such low weights on your cars. I could find maybe 50lbs to take out of the EG and I think that would be all without cutting it and it would still be well over 2000lbs with me in it.
Choice of car.. compare the 94 to the 92 & 93cx then the std 88 civic to other dx models.. then pull bumper beams, heater/ac box.. Then subtract weight for susp, I don't go rear disk because it's more..LOL

Red Bubble with front and rear seats, all panels weighs 2010lbs with me in it.. :) I weighed it at the cobb dump 2 years ago, it no longer has the skunk2 coilovers or lower control arms.. It did have steelies at the time though.

Stock listed weight
1993 Honda Civic CX HB MT 2094 lbs
1988 Honda Civic HB MT 1933lbs

[h22 jones]

Si weighs 2,480 with me in it lol. Thats why when it hits low 12s im happy .

If k series motors started rolling through my shop right now were i could get my hands on them cheap . I would consider selling my h stuff . You still have tranny problems with the k series and your still dealing with cable shift linkage . I dont know seeing whats being done on the h series motors now a days and being able to run a b series tranny i might still stay b series lol.

I dont know man i like them all . Hell id like to have a bad as car with each of these motors in it lol. But as long as gregg owns k series parts i refuse to lmao.

[1civic]

5 years ago I had a 88 civic which weighed 1610lb with me in and that was done at commerce drag strip, that car was gutted, chopped, etc.. All inner parts cut in doors, hatch, and qt's.. All seamsealer and undercoating remover, I sand blasted the car inside and underneth..

Skip to 1:13 and the civic in the left lane was it..http://youtu.be/n6AkQhDM74U
that crx i raced had a gsr swap and 75 &100 shot.. beat him 2 weeks in a row, he's on here, i'd have to look for his name.. :)

[Moseley]

Si weighs 2,480 with me in it lol. Thats why when it hits low 12s im happy .

If k series motors started rolling through my shop right now were i could get my hands on them cheap . I would consider selling my h stuff . You still have tranny problems with the k series and your still dealing with cable shift linkage . I dont know seeing whats being done on the h series motors now a days and being able to run a b series tranny i might still stay b series lol.

I dont know man i like them all . Hell id like to have a bad as car with each of these motors in it lol. But as long as gregg owns k series parts i refuse to lmao.

lol about Gregg having K series parts. It could be worse. He could have went H2B and then he'd be on here talking all big about H series and everyone would be against you!

[Moseley]

5 years ago I had a 88 civic which weighed 1610lb with me in and that was done at commerce drag strip, that car was gutted, chopped, etc.. All inner parts cut in doors, hatch, and qt's.. All seamsealer and undercoating remover, I sand blasted the car inside and underneth..

Skip to 1:13 and the civic in the left lane was it..http://youtu.be/n6AkQhDM74U
that crx i raced had a gsr swap and 75 &100 shot.. beat him 2 weeks in a row, he's on here, i'd have to look for his name.. :)

Yeah I dunno if I could do that to a car without putting a cage in it. seems like it would be pretty flimsy. I bought the EG from Luis wanting to turn it into a track day car.... but I might have my fun with the straight line stuff for a while first.

The road in that video looks sketchy haha...

[1civic]

Yeah I dunno if I could do that to a car without putting a cage in it. seems like it would be pretty flimsy. I bought the EG from Luis wanting to turn it into a track day car.... but I might have my fun with the straight line stuff for a while first.

The road in that video looks sketchy haha...

I had cross bracing inside the car and did the tuner field scca cone crap.. Fun car, not sure I would cut another one to that extreme cause cops aways mess with me and if hit I'd be dead I'm sure...LOL

Buy you some carbon doors, hatch, then sell them when your done playing!!

p.s
That road is longer & wider than it looks, battleground's first shop was on that road.. 1 way out, and cops knew it very well..

[top_speed]

midnight atl performance FTW .... banning in 1. 2. 3. dueces

[1civic]

midnight atl performance FTW .... banning in 1. 2. 3. dueces

They can't ban you for that...LOL

[top_speed]

They can't ban you for that...LOL

if i put a picture of my car with midnight stickers thats promoting a shop this site is fucking gay

[top_speed]

wass good though bobby

[1civic]

if i put a picture of my car with midnight stickers thats promoting a shop this site is fucking gay

Midnight Auto is closed, so fuck them mod's.. The new name is what they should worry about and even then when the shop opens they will advertise!!

What's good pimpin!!

[top_speed]

Honestly I could care less what anyone's tuned in new York or up north. Im talking about a legitimate 250whp all motor b series in GEORGIA.

So either accept or not, doesn't matter to me

yeah i wouldnt be so sure of that

[Vteckidd]

If you are talking about K20s, yes... but don't forget the K24s... I bet half of all honda's sold in the US between 03 and now have had K24s in them...

Do you think there are more k series vtec heads then b series vtec?

[justnprsh07]

Nick has to get out of the 12s before he goes 9s lulz, you cant talk a big game and have never made a full pass....


As far as stretch and morris, if it was for posting in the wrong section, It was for the thread they made in the normal kf section of the turbo integra, tell them to put it in here next time.....

are you talking about me not making a full pass? i hope not bc i missed third and ran better than your best time.... and nick is learning his car slowly but surely and has the car and power to get there with no prob

[-S Double C-]

are you talking about me not making a full pass? i hope not bc i missed third and ran better than your best time.... and nick is learning his car slowly but surely and has the car and power to get there with no prob
and if you somehow "cant" out run em

My choice of straight line machinery is red weighs 535 with me on it and makes 297whp NA what you boys wanna do? LOL...reallllll talk! and there isnt a import in this state that will run with it...:)

[DarKStaR]

are you talking about me not making a full pass? i hope not bc i missed third and ran better than your best time.... and nick is learning his car slowly but surely and has the car and power to get there with no prob

Really? You just made your self look like a jackass, i said NICK your name is JUSTIN, and then you make a comment about being faster.....id hope so with bigger motor,turbo, more power...but then again look at the car its in.....My car ran a very good time for the setup that it had and thats all I care about.

I dont see how nick is slowly learning his car if hes had it at the track 2 times.....1st time he tried making passes with 600+hp with a single disk clutch on 26" slicks(ask him how that went), and the 2nd time broke an axle launching on the first pass of the day....and he hasnt been back out since...guess he's learning how to e-race....

[David88vert]

and if you somehow "cant" out run em

My choice of straight line machinery is red weighs 535 with me on it and makes 297whp NA what you boys wanna do? LOL...reallllll talk! and there isnt a import in this state that will run with it...:)

Star Racing builds Suzuki's (imports) - you aren't running as fast as their Pro Stock bikes.

[-S Double C-]

Star Racing builds Suzuki's (imports) - you aren't running as fast as their Pro Stock bikes.

im just shooting the shit lol but we aint scared my buddy tootie done knocked off a few off them pro stock bikes there only going mids to high 4's we do that on stock frames and no wheelie bars...with a small slick...hell were knocking on the door of what they run with our shinko hookup street tire on the NA zx10

[justnprsh07]

Really? You just made your self look like a jackass, i said NICK your name is JUSTIN, and then you make a comment about being faster.....id hope so with bigger motor,turbo, more power...but then again look at the car its in.....My car ran a very good time for the setup that it had and thats all I care about.

I dont see how nick is slowly learning his car if hes had it at the track 2 times.....1st time he tried making passes with 600+hp with a single disk clutch on 26" slicks(ask him how that went), and the 2nd time broke an axle launching on the first pass of the day....and he hasnt been back out since...guess he's learning how to e-race....

I made myself look like a jackass??? The fist part was about nick you didnt say who the second part was about..... And I never said nick ran 9s I said its capable of 9s just like mine and matts and teymurs are all capable of high 9s but being capable dont always get you there

[DarKStaR]

It was all about nick, hince why it was together on the same line and the stretch and morris part was separate... But its funny how you got defensive about something you didnt know who it was about...

I thought you were trying to trade your setup for a 300+hp all motor setup? what happened with that? Did you get a new block from where you sank a sleeve on the dyno?

[EmminoDaGreat]

sunk sleeve, ewwwwwwwwww

[h22 jones]

Justin has a very nice setup but as he has seen first hand the more power you make the more stuff you break.

Joey ran 11.1 so he wins that argument as to who has went faster .

I like nick,juston and joey hell im friends with all of them . Thats why im not going to bash nicks or justins car they have nice stuff butt it doesnt matter if you have a 100,000 thousand dollar car that doesnt gain you any bragging rights untill you have run the times simpile as that .

I would rather have the 500hp setup that jonathan ran 12.7 with then have a 800 (capable )hp car that i cant get tom make a pass.

like i said im friends with everybody and will do anything i can to help either of these three guys get and kept there shit running right but untill then there is no credability at all simple as that . I killed gregg about the same thing when he was key board racing his 300hp kseries that had never been even put together at the time . gregg did finaly get his car together and as everybody knows he blow up the board with his bragging rights lmao. Now lets get some cars together and ron some good times you guys have paid your dews figure out how get your shit right so you can enjoy it.

[EmminoDaGreat]

mike you've become quite the post whore!!

[h22 jones]

It was the full dart sleevd block off of nemos built . It did not have dry replacement sleeves . I honestly didnt think them sleeves were capable of sinking but he was blowing head gaskets at 15 pounds of boost . I dont care what the problem was just hope he gets it together he deserves it.

[EmminoDaGreat]

installer error?

How about step decking it
Howzzzzzzzzzz about o ringing it
howzzzzzzz about knock some timing out of errrrrrrrrrrr
howzzzzzzzzzzz about sounds like an h22gay :)

[*EFilliated*]

lol


mike you've become quite the post whore!!

[1civic]

installer error?

How about step decking it
Howzzzzzzzzzz about o ringing it
howzzzzzzz about knock some timing out of errrrrrrrrrrr
howzzzzzzzzzzz about sounds like an h22gay :)

Git-r-done!!!!!

[1civic]

So now we go to H22's that blow up or don't run, bikes that want to run 11-12 sec cars, and the cool people are getting banned!!

Wow, Ia is the SHIT!!!!

Good Night!!

[David88vert]

So now we go to H22's that blow up or don't run, bikes that want to run 11-12 sec cars, and the cool people are getting banned!!

Wow, Ia is the SHIT!!!!

Good Night!!

Most bike riders will only manage 11's - go to the track and you will see that they are not unbeatable by any means.
I still haven't seen a real reason for stretch getting banned. A warning should have been enough, with what little that I have heard. I have the outside view though, and don't know if he was previously warned.

So, here is the question - which does better on spray - H, B, or K? Seems that all motor guys could still have the option to make more power - when they need to. And no, I honestly don't know the answer.

[justnprsh07]

It was all about nick, hince why it was together on the same line and the stretch and morris part was separate... But its funny how you got defensive about something you didnt know who it was about...

I thought you were trying to trade your setup for a 300+hp all motor setup? what happened with that? Did you get a new block from where you sank a sleeve on the dyno?


I wanted to and allmost traded my setup plus cash for hah2b's setup "fastest h2b period" but didnt so I started building my own and put my turbo car back together.... Its back in the carnow just waiting to go back to the dyno

[justnprsh07]

G
Justin has a very nice setup but as he has seen first hand the more power you make the more stuff you break.

Joey ran 11.1 so he wins that argument as to who has went faster .

I like nick,juston and joey hell im friends with all of them . Thats why im not going to bash nicks or justins car they have nice stuff butt it doesnt matter if you have a 100,000 thousand dollar car that doesnt gain you any bragging rights untill you have run the times simpile as that .

I would rather have the 500hp setup that jonathan ran 12.7 with then have a 800 (capable )hp car that i cant get tom make a pass.

like i said im friends with everybody and will do anything i can to help either of these three guys get and kept there shit running right but untill then there is no credability at all simple as that . I killed gregg about the same thing when he was key board racing his 300hp kseries that had never been even put together at the time . gregg did finaly get his car together and as everybody knows he blow up the board with his bragging rights lmao. Now lets get some cars together and ron some good times you guys have paid your dews figure out how get your shit right so you can enjoy it.

I went 11.0 missing then grabbing third...... And two center sleeves were sunk a few thousandths had to take 8 thousandths off so hopefully it will be ok this time

[Vteckidd]

So, here is the question - which does better on spray - H, B, or K? Seems that all motor guys could still have the option to make more power - when they need to. And no, I honestly don't know the answer.

Compared to a v8? none.

In honda world, in stock form they all kinda suck. Cast pistons dont hold up really well , although the Ks seem to hold it pretty well compared to the B Series from what i have seen. I think if you get into built motors, H or K is prob always going to be better. Bigger motors tend to do well with nitrous, especially if you want to run anything over a 100 shot.

Problem in the honda world is almost NO ONE does nitrous the right way. Most people buy a ZEX kit and run a 100 shot to gain 40whp. i mean we can take a 150whp OEM motor and make it make 800whp with a turbo, but its rare to see anyone make a 150-200 shot work correctly.

I think it really has to do with how small the motors are, it just cant take that kind of instant horsepower. V8s, different story

[h22 jones]

Ive seen a couple h motors hold a 75shot stock for years . They normaly run 12.7-12.8 but thats about all the nitrous ive seen besides being used to spool up a turbo . I think jj is pretty good with the nitrous stuff . He had a ten second h22 nitrous motor for years with stock block and mahle pistons .

[h22 jones]

mike you've become quite the post whore!!

Trying to get my reps up like all the cool kids on ia :)

Why dont you tell me why you cant return a text?

Shouldnt you be putting greggs motor together lol.

[h22 jones]

G

I went 11.0 missing then grabbing third...... And two center sleeves were sunk a few thousandths had to take 8 thousandths off so hopefully it will be ok this time

Thats still shitty with that setup eother way . I just want you to get your shit right and be able to actually attend a couple races .

It sucks when we have some realy nice cars between a few friends and we could actually have a good time at the tarck but everybodys shit stays broke all the time lol. maybe this year will be the year. I hope nicks gets to make a few passes to man damn if he dont deserve it .

[h22 jones]

installer error?

How about step decking it
Howzzzzzzzzzz about o ringing it
howzzzzzzz about knock some timing out of errrrrrrrrrrr
howzzzzzzzzzzz about sounds like an h22gay :)

That block has been in many set ups no problems so i doubt it is a installer error who knows shit happens lol.

I told him to drill a hole in every cylinder and put a bolt and nut threw it then it couldnt slip any more :)

Anything above 500hp starts testing everything lol.

[David88vert]

Compared to a v8? none.

In honda world, in stock form they all kinda suck. Cast pistons dont hold up really well , although the Ks seem to hold it pretty well compared to the B Series from what i have seen. I think if you get into built motors, H or K is prob always going to be better. Bigger motors tend to do well with nitrous, especially if you want to run anything over a 100 shot.

Problem in the honda world is almost NO ONE does nitrous the right way. Most people buy a ZEX kit and run a 100 shot to gain 40whp. i mean we can take a 150whp OEM motor and make it make 800whp with a turbo, but its rare to see anyone make a 150-200 shot work correctly.

I think it really has to do with how small the motors are, it just cant take that kind of instant horsepower. V8s, different story

I wasn't comparing to V8s, just wondering which was the better motor on spray. Didn't know that they had cast pistons.

[1civic]

Compared to a v8? none.

In honda world, in stock form they all kinda suck. Cast pistons dont hold up really well , although the Ks seem to hold it pretty well compared to the B Series from what i have seen. I think if you get into built motors, H or K is prob always going to be better. Bigger motors tend to do well with nitrous, especially if you want to run anything over a 100 shot.

Problem in the honda world is almost NO ONE does nitrous the right way. Most people buy a ZEX kit and run a 100 shot to gain 40whp. i mean we can take a 150whp OEM motor and make it make 800whp with a turbo, but its rare to see anyone make a 150-200 shot work correctly.

I think it really has to do with how small the motors are, it just cant take that kind of instant horsepower. V8s, different story


This is true, but NOS is no joke.. Direct port can be done right though, progressive controller and well it's game on!!

Yes most of the kids stick a dry kit on the car with a vaccum to the regulator thinking that shit will work, well it can IF you watch fuel pressure.. But who does that?? Moseley does it, but he also adds fuel threw the injectors I think.. Still not safe to me, but he don't spray 150 ether..

Stock B will take 50-75 easy, but over 100 and it will burn valves, pistons, etc!!!

[Vteckidd]

I wasn't comparing to V8s, just wondering which was the better motor on spray. Didn't know that they had cast pistons.

oh im just saying nitrous is only really good like bobby said from 50-75 shot, thats the only time its relatively safe an reliable.

a Factory B makes maybe 220-230with a 75 shot. Mosely might make around 290-300 with a 75 shot, which yeah its fast, but any REAL SHOT tends to end motors pretty quick

[Vteckidd]

i plan on spraying my TL if i cant pick a supercharger up cheap. Itll be my first nitrous "honda"

[MidnightAuto]

oh im just saying nitrous is only really good like bobby said from 50-75 shot, thats the only time its relatively safe an reliable.

a Factory B makes maybe 220-230with a 75 shot. Mosely might make around 290-300 with a 75 shot, which yeah its fast, but any REAL SHOT tends to end motors pretty quick
Not always true.

[EmminoDaGreat]

That block has been in many set ups no problems so i doubt it is a installer error who knows shit happens lol.

I told him to drill a hole in every cylinder and put a bolt and nut threw it then it couldnt slip any more :)

Anything above 500hp starts testing everything lol.



Yo when did you text me?

[*EFilliated*]

to vteckidd, just thought id post this since i found it lurking threw my phone. and yes i kno we established sum of it already. here u go. :D. now where my money at lol j/k

* My Street Tire Pass at Commerce
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c359/luismerchan/IMAG0116-2-1.jpg


i plan on spraying my TL if i cant pick a supercharger up cheap. Itll be my first nitrous "honda"

[Vteckidd]

Not always true.

of course not always true, but most ive seen never do it right, and its unreliable at best. to REALLY run a 150-200shot you need progressive controller, prob direct port, a purpose built motor for nitrous, lots of trial and error, etc.

Its just not as easy or consistent as a V8

[Vteckidd]

to vteckidd, just thought id post this since i found it lurking threw my phone. and yes i kno we established sum of it already. here u go. :D. now where my money at lol j/k

* My Street Tire Pass at Commerce
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c359/luismerchan/IMAG0116-2-1.jpg

good job man, teach me how to drive :P

[*EFilliated*]

lol, im just a beginner, more seat time is still to come


good job man, teach me how to drive :P

[1civic]

lol, im just a beginner, more seat time is still to come

Fuck seat time, put slicks on that bitch.. She's moving!!:cheers:

[justnprsh07]

Ived had nitrious on everything ive ever owned and h series stock holds it pretty well if you do it right.... Hell I even have a 350hp jetski thats had nitrious on it untill it blew a headgasket

[1civic]

Ived had nitrious on everything ive ever owned and h series stock holds it pretty well if you do it right.... Hell I even have a 350hp jetski thats had nitrious on it untill it blew a headgasket

Sounds like Head Gaskets don't like you!!!

LOL

[Moseley]

So, here is the question - which does better on spray - H, B, or K? Seems that all motor guys could still have the option to make more power - when they need to. And no, I honestly don't know the answer.

K for sure. Dan down in tampa ran a 200 direct port dry shot on a stock K20a2 w/ ARP head studs, injectors, race gas. 453 whp. In a full weight EG (2400 w/ driver) it went 10.60 @ 132. That is fucking insane for a 2.0L to handle that kind of shot.

[Moseley]

oh im just saying nitrous is only really good like bobby said from 50-75 shot, thats the only time its relatively safe an reliable.

a Factory B makes maybe 220-230with a 75 shot. Mosely might make around 290-300 with a 75 shot, which yeah its fast, but any REAL SHOT tends to end motors pretty quick

I don't agree that it ends motors pretty quick. It's all in the tuning, having a safety net, etc. what difference does it make if you're injecting a lot of nitrous vs a little? its not much different than running 12psi vs. 20psi on a stock block. Get the right plugs, gas, don't be aggressive on timing, respect the bottle pressure :) it's possible to keep it safe.

[MidnightAuto]

I don't agree that it ends motors pretty quick. It's all in the tuning, having a safety net, etc. what difference does it make if you're injecting a lot of nitrous vs a little? its not much different than running 12psi vs. 20psi on a stock block. Get the right plugs, gas, don't be aggressive on timing, respect the bottle pressure :) it's possible to keep it safe.
I have to agree because my first k20 was bone stock and I ended up hitting it with a 175 wet shot single fogger and i never had any problems. The person I sold the motor never had any problems with it either. And it was on a street tune....

[Moseley]

I have to agree because my first k20 was bone stock and I ended up hitting it with a 175 wet shot single fogger and i never had any problems. The person I sold the motor never had any problems with it either. And it was on a street tune....

lol 175 single... good stuff. I'm about to start messing with bigger shots. I would like to get a 10.99 on a spraying stock block but I know that it won't be easy. That will be the goal at least.

Just put this together a couple of weeks ago but haven't had the time to finish up yet...

http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr295/Moseley525/DirectPort2.jpg

[*EFilliated*]

WAS moving for 2010, 2011 mid 12s easy. Bone stock motor. Morris tuned :ninja:


Fuck seat time, put slicks on that bitch.. She's moving!!:cheers:

[Vteckidd]

Margin for error IMO is much greater on a 150-200 shot of nitrous. Sure you can step it up gradually, but I always found it to be extremely unstable and extremely inconsistent. Blowing motors up usually happens because nitrous IMO isn't as user friendly as a turbo. Nitrous Car you have far more variables.

[MidnightAuto]

Margin for error IMO is much greater on a 150-200 shot of nitrous. Sure you can step it up gradually, but I always found it to be extremely unstable and extremely inconsistent. Blowing motors up usually happens because nitrous IMO isn't as user friendly as a turbo. Nitrous Car you have far more variables.

Correct but if done correclty it can be controlled..

[MidnightAuto]

lol 175 single... good stuff. I'm about to start messing with bigger shots. I would like to get a 10.99 on a spraying stock block but I know that it won't be easy. That will be the goal at least.

Just put this together a couple of weeks ago but haven't had the time to finish up yet...

http://i493.photobucket.com/albums/rr295/Moseley525/DirectPort2.jpg

Very nice kit!!! Did you get the progressive controller?

[Moseley]

Margin for error IMO is much greater on a 150-200 shot of nitrous. Sure you can step it up gradually, but I always found it to be extremely unstable and extremely inconsistent. Blowing motors up usually happens because nitrous IMO isn't as user friendly as a turbo. Nitrous Car you have far more variables.

Yeah I agree definitely more variables... and maybe a little inconsistent but not extremely. having a pressure activated switch on a warmer, or a pressure regulator gets rid of a lot of it.


Very nice kit!!! Did you get the progressive controller?

lol nope. going to add a lot of fuel and pull a lot of timing on the initial hit. who knows maybe I'm crazy but we'll see.

[Vteckidd]

Well it's obvious you two know what you're doing.

I'll be sure to ask some questions as I get closer to running it on mine

[Moseley]

I think a 75 single fogger wet on a J would be straight forward. As far as I know the ECU might even pull timing for you if it detects any significant knock.

Only concern I'd have is the fuel setup. Some guy with a gt35r on a J35 ended up starving one of the fuel rails and blowing it up. but if you could be sure you'll maintain pressure then spray the shit out of it and go run 12s

[1civic]

Add another kit and do 50, then 100.. OR add the progressive controller to the 150-200 single hit..

Don't blast 150, 200 dry.. That thing will pop!!!

If it was wet than it would be much easier to tune with, but you must trust your tuning skills cause that 150 dry is no joke!!

[Moseley]

I might do a 2 stage all dry. K-pro has 3 nitrous windows which have mph as one of the parameters so...

nitrous 1: 1st and 2nd gear single fogger on (60 or 75 shot)
nitrous 2: 3rd-5th gear direct port on (150 shot)
nitrous 3: 3rd gear only, no output, but add fuel and pull timing to help with the initial hit.

race gas for sure on any large dry shot. but hey if it blows up that's one more reason to build a motor

[Vteckidd]

Good thing j motors are cheap :p

[1civic]

I might do a 2 stage all dry. K-pro has 3 nitrous windows which have mph as one of the parameters so...

nitrous 1: 1st and 2nd gear single fogger on (60 or 75 shot)
nitrous 2: 3rd-5th gear direct port on (150 shot)
nitrous 3: 3rd gear only, no output, but add fuel and pull timing to help with the initial hit.

race gas for sure on any large dry shot. but hey if it blows up that's one more reason to build a motor

I love the stuff, quick easy power!!

Reading plugs can be your friend, keep that in mind!!

10.50's on a stock block K would be pretty sick, not sure you have the gear for it though..

I'm sure you'll have the power though!!

[ghostofnyc]

oh im just saying nitrous is only really good like bobby said from 50-75 shot, thats the only time its relatively safe an reliable.

a Factory B makes maybe 220-230with a 75 shot. Mosely might make around 290-300 with a 75 shot, which yeah its fast, but any REAL SHOT tends to end motors pretty quick

lol oh boy

[ghostofnyc]

Margin for error IMO is much greater on a 150-200 shot of nitrous. Sure you can step it up gradually, but I always found it to be extremely unstable and extremely inconsistent. Blowing motors up usually happens because nitrous IMO isn't as user friendly as a turbo. Nitrous Car you have far more variables.

SMH

[Vteckidd]

SMH

oh look another cheerleader.

Sorry kid most people dont run nitrous on their hondas the RIGHT way, and because of that it is inconsistent and i stand by my statement.

V8s do it better for a reason

[Vteckidd]

let me be crystal clear since you guys want to try and talk shit.

I DO NOT GIVE 2 SHITS ABOUT WHAT GOES ON IN NEW YORK. THIS ISNT NYC, THIS IS ATLANTA.

Having said that, i have seen more nitrous motors grenade because people arent willing to spend the money on the expensive parts. Kids will drop $4000 for a full race turbo kit, but they want to run ZEX kits on their stock motor and not tune it.

Also, i believe the intake manifold design, along with the small bore makes LARGE shots of nitrous extremely inconsistent. Ive seen it TIME AND TIME again on the dyno, where a 100 shot does anything from 50-75whp in back to back runs. Ive seen 200shots add 100whp, and worse. Has nothing to do with tuning, has to do with DELIVERY.

We have extremely small discplacement motors, and Nitrous is not as consistent as adding boost pressure, not as easy to control , IMO. When someone decides to run a consistent 150-200shot with proof to back it up its stable and can keep their motor together, ill change my mind.

I have yet to see it.

Mosely is prob the closest i have seen, hes had nitrous for awhile on that car, but he also doesnt run it ALL THE TIME. There was also a guy in Macon that had a K Hatch with a 200shot running 10s few years ago, and it was pretty stable. I cannot speak for anyone else.

[05dc5s]

SMH

Please do share what about the statement you quoted made you shake your head.

[Vteckidd]

Please do share what about the statement you quoted made you shake your head.

its because im Vteckidd and hes from NYC. thats it.

[jerseyef9]

nitrous dont blow motors idiots blow motors this not direct to no1 just stating a fact

[jerseyef9]

Correct but if done correclty it can be controlled..



:nx::nx::yourock:

[ghostofnyc]

oh look another cheerleader.

Sorry kid most people dont run nitrous on their hondas the RIGHT way, and because of that it is inconsistent and i stand by my statement.

V8s do it better for a reason First of all I didn't disrespect you. Just like you said this is a public forum if you don't like what I said hit exit or back button. I'm by no means a cheerleader KID so get it straight I have been in this game just as long if not longer than you. I was simply disagreeing with your comments, this is why most of the honda crowd has no idea how to set up a nitrous car the correct way because of statments like yours. It's obvious that you don't know much about nitrous and that's fine but dont post misinformation thanks have a good day KID.

[ghostofnyc]

Please do share what about the statement you quoted made you shake your head.
Ok it's not the size of the shot just like with a turbo car not the size of turbo the key to making power and staying safe with N/A, Boost and Spray is fuel so if you provide adequate fuel for your goals it will be fine. Any car you build for performance will have variables so thats not a factor anyone who build's a performance car and expects it to do 200k miles is crazy. I have sprayed 150++ shots on STOCK bottom end B16's, GSR's, ITR's and H22's took motors apart to do maintenance and no issues no smoking nothing so with n20 you either know what your doing or you don't simple.

[jerseyef9]

Ok it's not the size of the shot just like with a turbo car not the size of turbo the key to making power and staying safe with N/A, Boost and Spray is fuel so if you provide adequate fuel for your goals it will be fine. Any car you build for performance will have variables so thats not a factor anyone who build's a performance car and expects it to do 200k miles is crazy. I have sprayed 150++ shots on STOCK bottom end B16's, GSR's, ITR's and H22's took motors apart to do maintenance and no issues no smoking nothing so with n20 you either know what your doing or you don't simple.

you forgot the 200shot j series (acura legend)

[ghostofnyc]

its because im Vteckidd and hes from NYC. thats it.
Has nothing to do with it KID.

[ghostofnyc]

you forgot the 200shot j series (acura legend)
Legend had more than 200 shot but automatic tranny didn't like you too much.

[Vteckidd]

Ok it's not the size of the shot just like with a turbo car not the size of turbo the key to making power and staying safe with N/A, Boost and Spray is fuel so if you provide adequate fuel for your goals it will be fine.

Cool blanket extremely vague statement bro.

FUEL?? THATS ALL I NEEDED THIS WHOLE TIME? NO SHIT. /sarcasm

so i suppose a 40R on a 1.6L is perfectly fine as long as i have 1000cc injectors! sweet had no idea this whole time, learn something new everyday.

Seriously you guys like to try to argue the most retarded shit ever because you cant stand someone having an OPINION that disagrees with yours. Im waiting for the "OH MY BOY RAN A 200 SHOT ON HIS H22 AND IT DID FINE SO ITS PERFECTLY COOL YALL DONT KNOW WHATCHU TALKIN ABOUT"





Any car you build for performance will have variables so thats not a factor anyone who build's a performance car and expects it to do 200k miles is crazy. I have sprayed 150++ shots on STOCK bottom end B16's, GSR's, ITR's and H22's took motors apart to do maintenance and no issues no smoking nothing so with n20 you either know what your doing or you don't simple.

Bullshit. If you are going to sit here and tell me YOU would tell a customer that a 150+ shot of NITROUS on a B16, ITR is perfectly safe because you add FUEL just proves how much you dont know. Fuel wont save your ringlands. IT becomes about cylidner pressure at that point. And just because you sprayed a 150 shot and survived doesnt mean you automatically "know what youre doing" so cut the holier than thou act.

My statement is correct. Nitrous is very dangerous because most people do not do it right, and even if they do, in motors as small as ours, ITS VERY DIFFICULT to get the CORRECT delivery of Nitrous and Fuel and keep it CONSISTENT.

Thats FACT people, sorry. If you disagree bring me your STOCK engine car with 150+ shot of gas on it and let me run it 10 times back to back and see if power holds and the motor holds. If it survives and you dont suffer 10%+ greater power loss in between runs, ill give you $100, if it doesnt, then you pay for dyno time. show me how much you really know.

Ask jenson how many GSRs he blew up with his direct port kit, Kevin Tran how his 150shot really only made like 80whp (granted it was a crappy zex kit), hell i wont quote numbers but if memory serves moseleys car was very inconsistent on the dyno as well on spray. his 75 shot did not add 75whp.

Why cant you guys just stop, READ my fucking comments and COMPREHEND for once. Just because you guys shit fairy dust in NYC doesnt mean it works down here in the real world. MOST people dont run the CORRECT nitrous kit, and even if you do, its VERY inconsistent and usually leads to motor failure. I stand by that statement.

If you disagree, fine, but dont act like you "know more" because you did it on 1 motor one time in wonderland.

FYI im still waiting on someone to show me this 250whp B Series NA motor, just like i though, ZERO takers.

[Vteckidd]

First of all I didn't disrespect you. Just like you said this is a public forum if you don't like what I said hit exit or back button. I'm by no means a cheerleader KID so get it straight I have been in this game just as long if not longer than you. I was simply disagreeing with your comments, this is why most of the honda crowd has no idea how to set up a nitrous car the correct way because of statments like yours. It's obvious that you don't know much about nitrous and that's fine but dont post misinformation thanks have a good day KID.

well excuse me mr genius when you come in here, quote posts i make, and say stuff like "LOL" and "SMH" without any explanantion ill call you out for being a condescending dickhead.

Im not posting information, im posting facts backed up by real world experience. Congratulations, you somehow managed to get LUCKY and spray a massive amount of nitrous and not blow a motor up. Do you realize my main point was that nitrous was INCONSISTENT. So do you have back to back to back dynos to show how much power your 150shot was ACTUALLY making.

prob not

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damn man U dont seem to be having a good day, whats with whole NYC this and NYC that, there is plenty of people that have tons more experience than most of IA including U and everyone else, y dont U try to understand what he is trying to explain instead of jumping on peoples backs because U havent seen it, then that means it hasnt or cnt be done? U should start being a little bit more open minded and stop denying everything people say. just saying

for example: U denying and saying there aint no 250whp bseries in ga this and that. and that its almost impossible, when MORRIS has tuned more Bseries then U could ever own, and U tell him NO like he hasnt done this for years

or U jumping on my back saying that there is no way a stock all motor honda could be running 13.4s on street tires just because Ur CRX couldnt do it.




well excuse me mr genius when you come in here, quote posts i make, and say stuff like "LOL" and "SMH" without any explanantion ill call you out for being a condescending dickhead.

Im not posting information, im posting facts backed up by real world experience. Congratulations, you somehow managed to get LUCKY and spray a massive amount of nitrous and not blow a motor up. Do you realize my main point was that nitrous was INCONSISTENT. So do you have back to back to back dynos to show how much power your 150shot was ACTUALLY making.

prob not

[ghostofnyc]

Cool blanket extremely vague statement bro.

FUEL?? THATS ALL I NEEDED THIS WHOLE TIME? NO SHIT. /sarcasm

so i suppose a 40R on a 1.6L is perfectly fine as long as i have 1000cc injectors! sweet had no idea this whole time, learn something new everyday.

Seriously you guys like to try to argue the most retarded shit ever because you cant stand someone having an OPINION that disagrees with yours. Im waiting for the "OH MY BOY RAN A 200 SHOT ON HIS H22 AND IT DID FINE SO ITS PERFECTLY COOL YALL DONT KNOW WHATCHU TALKIN ABOUT"





Bullshit. If you are going to sit here and tell me YOU would tell a customer that a 150+ shot of NITROUS on a B16, ITR is perfectly safe because you add FUEL just proves how much you dont know. Fuel wont save your ringlands. IT becomes about cylidner pressure at that point. And just because you sprayed a 150 shot and survived doesnt mean you automatically "know what youre doing" so cut the holier than thou act.

My statement is correct. Nitrous is very dangerous because most people do not do it right, and even if they do, in motors as small as ours, ITS VERY DIFFICULT to get the CORRECT delivery of Nitrous and Fuel and keep it CONSISTENT.

Thats FACT people, sorry. If you disagree bring me your STOCK engine car with 150+ shot of gas on it and let me run it 10 times back to back and see if power holds and the motor holds. If it survives and you dont suffer 10%+ greater power loss in between runs, ill give you $100, if it doesnt, then you pay for dyno time. show me how much you really know.

Ask jenson how many GSRs he blew up with his direct port kit, Kevin Tran how his 150shot really only made like 80whp (granted it was a crappy zex kit), hell i wont quote numbers but if memory serves moseleys car was very inconsistent on the dyno as well on spray. his 75 shot did not add 75whp.

Why cant you guys just stop, READ my fucking comments and COMPREHEND for once. Just because you guys shit fairy dust in NYC doesnt mean it works down here in the real world. MOST people dont run the CORRECT nitrous kit, and even if you do, its VERY inconsistent and usually leads to motor failure. I stand by that statement.

If you disagree, fine, but dont act like you "know more" because you did it on 1 motor one time in wonderland.

FYI im still waiting on someone to show me this 250whp B Series NA motor, just like i though, ZERO takers.

You are a funny KID yes fuel is the key did I say what kind of fuel no I didn't just like you can't make 800whp on pump in a boosted honda it takes know how with a nitrous car to run big shots. Yes consistancy is key with nitrous but bottle warmers, equal flow distribution blocks, and dedicated fuel or dry systems all work together for n20 consistancy. As for dyno numbers I could care less as long as the car is trapping consistant mph I know what power its making.

[Vteckidd]

for example: u denying and saying there aint no 250whp bseries in ga this and that. and that its almost impossible, when MORRIS has tuned more Bseries then u could ever own, and u tell him NO like he hasnt done this for years



And again i do not give 2 shits about what hes done in NYC.

BRING ME THE 250whp ALL MOTOR B SERIES CAR TO MAINSTREAMS DYNO AND IF IT MAKES THAT ILL PAY HIM MONEY. I dont want to see dyno sheets of cars hes tuned, or videos from youtube.

I WANT TO SEE IT MAKE IT WITH MY OWN EYES ON A DYNO I KNOW DOESNT CHEAT, ON A DYNO I TRUST.

still waiting on that.........but i know it wont happen because if one existed it would have dynoed already