bush or obama who had it worse???

[BanginJimmy]

fairly secure foreign policy climate (Clinton had even been keeping watch over Al Qaeda/OBL since the WTC bombing).

I agree with the rst of your post, but this part is total fabrication. Our secure foreign policy was nothing more than a lack of action. The only people that liked us more then than now are the ones that like to see America down.

If he was keeping such a close eye on Al Qaeda why did we get attacked on 9/11? Why didnt he take him out when he had a chance? Dont give me that, he wasnt in office at the time BS because the planning was done and the people were in the US well before the election. In reality, Clinton gutted the human intelligence aspects of our intelligence services and relied only on electronic intell. Starting several months before the attacks we were getting sniffs of something big happending, but we never got any solid intell until it was too late. Clinton also created an atmosphere of cometition between the intelligence services, which caused them to keep everything in house until there were firm estimates. It came out after the attacks that we info scattered around the DIA, CIA, FBI and NSA that they planned to use planes in an attack on NYC.

[Total_Blender]

Clinton also created an atmosphere of competition between the intelligence services, which caused them to keep everything in house until there were firm estimates.

As opposed to believing some looney named Achmed Chalabi word for word when he claimed Iraq had WMD with very little substantive proof and no backup sources.

When you look at some of the things that happened during the Clinton administration:

1992 WTC bombing
1993 Waco seige
1995 Oklahoma City bombing
the 1996 Olympic bombing
the 1999 school shootings (Columbine etc)
the 2000 USS Cole bombing

If anything you could say that Clinton had more experience handling terrorism than Bush.

[BanginJimmy]

1992 WTC bombing

no response from US govt.

1993 Waco seige

FBI and ATF screw up, absolutely no ties good or bad to the President

1995 Oklahoma City bombing

Domestic terrorist. Police did their job and caught the 2 involved. 1 has since been executed

the 1996 Olympic bombing

Domestic terrorist, he was caught

the 1999 school shootings (Columbine etc)

Whiny kids are not the presidents concern. They are the parents concern.

the 2000 USS Cole bombing

No response from the US govt.



You also forgot the bombings of the 2 embassies in Kenya and Nairobi in mid 98 if I remember correctly. The US response was 2 tomahawk missles into camps that were known beforehand to be empty.

If anything you could say that Clinton had more experience handling terrorism than Bush.

We suffered more attacks during his presidency because of his lack of a spine in dealing with them. If Clinton would have made an example of those that support terrorism back in 93, maybe we wouldnt have seen the other 3 attacks in the 90's or the attack on the WTC in 01.