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[ZedEx]

By ZedEx You obviously don't know the first thing about all motor Hondas... For example, RPRacing's 230whp all motor Integra Type-R ran 11.98, in a full weight Type-R. Now imagine about 240whp all motor in a CRX.


By Homemade240s I'm looking at it money wise. By the time u spend the money to make that kind of power, u can boost two of those engines and ran insanely HP.
If u don't think so, give me the money that u're going to spend on an NA B20 and i'll show what i'm talking about. I'm speaking from experince so don't tell me that i do not know anything about Hondas...

see ya 240love.

Well your original statement came off as an "anti-all motor" statement, but this one justifies what you meant better.

Personally, I love boosted Hondas, I've had my share of boosted cars, and I love boost. But at this point, I'm going after a reliable car, that I can jump in on a whim, and drive across the country, without having to worry about a return line busting off, or a charge pipe blowing off, etc.

But back to my original point... Show me a boosted 230whp Type-R that can run 11.98. While yes, for the money, you could have built a 450whp engine that could have run the same times... But why do that, when you can do it just on the motor?

That's my view point... I'm an all motor guy, people don't get us, haha.

at first i wanted to go w/ a type r tranny. But ....
1)theyre expensive as shit
2)the gears are short which wouldnt be a bad thing but id like to have some top end as well.... not just a stoplight car.

... Uhhh, no dude, it wouldn't be a "stoplight car" at all. How would you lose top end with a tight geared transmission? Type-Rs are factory road course cars, you have PLENTY of top end with them. Trust me man, I drive one every single day.

Most Type-R owners put in an even tighter final drive (Typically a JDM 4.785FD, or an ATS/SRR/M-Factory 4.928FD or 5.077FD... Stock USDM Type-R and '96-'97 JDM Type-R is 4.400FD), people that track their cars every weekend. Tight gearing's a good thing, it's not like you're going to top out at 120mph with a stock Type-R transmission.

A Type-R transmission would be PERFECT for your build. Stock LSD, tight gearing, great gear ratios. A wider geared transmission absolutely kills an all motor setup. A buddy of mine swapped a Type-R engine (Purchased legit from a reputable Honda-Tech seller) into his '98 LS, and left the LS transmission in. We went from second on the highway, and by top of fourth, I had 3 cars on him.

Yes, gearing makes that big of a different.

As for price. I see Type-R transmissions sell on a daily basis for $1,000-$1,200 in awesome shape. I sold one of mine for $800 with a second gear grind. The guy who bought it, fixed it with a spare syncro he had. It's well worth the money, if you try to build a B16 or a GSR transmission to match it's performance, you're going to be spending just as much as a stock Type-R transmission would run you.

prolly go w/ a gsr tranny or b16 i havent looked into them very much.... thats just the info i gathered from lookin around on here....

I laughed when I read B16 on your list... If you think Type-R is too tight, B16 shouldn't be on your list either.

as far as clutches go, would i need a crazy ass carbon-metallic dual friction clutch bullshit for $1500 or could i just get a fairly beefy exedy or act clutch for 4-500 bux?

How about a stock Type-R clutch for $300? Type-R clutches do awesome with all motor setups.

Myself personally, I'm using ACT Street-Lite/ACT HD pressure plate/ACT unsprung 6-puck. But that's because my all motor build I'm going with right now, should generate around 210-215whp, and I'll be spraying a 50 shot on top of that. So I'll need a bit more grabbing power when I'm running 22" slicks, launching at 7,500RPM, and spraying off the line.

But for 240-250whp, a stock Type-R clutch will be awesome. If you decide you need a bit more gripping/holding power, just go with a Competiton Stage-II.

You've got a LOT of good advice in this thread. I'd recommend you listen to it.