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    Default Who says 2JZ is best straight six for Boost

    BMW MPOWER bitches

    http://www.vsmotor.no/wmv/vsmotor-m3-tullinge-805.wmv

    http://www.vsmotor.no/wmv/vsmotor-m3-tullinge-783.wmv


    Nuff said

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    and its street legal in sweden and except for cats would be street legal here
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    yah pictures
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    AFAIK, this is the most powerful inline 6 engine ever built to date. Tested on an engine dyno, I should say. There is possibility of a few 2JZ's being more powerful, but I don't think any of those have ever been engine dyno'd, most of those are chassis dyno'd once they are already in the car.

    BMW M power FTW!!!

    AND, I don't recall ANY of Vidar Strands engines ever failing in any kind of race or event. His E34 M5 with 1190 BHP and a 2 speed powerglide also running 8's in the quarter. However, it's fairly well known in the circles that follow his cars that whenever he goes to an event, he normally does trash a gearbox at most every event. From what I've been told, he runs a 2 speed powerglide in all of his setups for the drag strips, and an built E34 M5 Getrag 280 for the track. Unfortunately, there is no gearbox that I know of that can take 1200+ bhp on a road course for hours of the kind of abuse that he puts the car thru, but the motor sure does take it

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    nice as BMW but i think if you check Supraforums theres a couple of Supras already past that HP mark bro so it aint the fastest I6 sorry ................but its nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by G.O.D
    nice as BMW but i think if you check Supraforums theres a couple of Supras already past that HP mark bro so it aint the fastest I6 sorry ................but its nice
    It is possible, but were these engines truly Engine dyno'd? Thats the only claim I made. Like I said, AFAIK, unless somebody can show proof of a 2JZ on an ENGINE dyno, not a chassis dyno, then I'll believe it. Not trying to start anything, I'm sure there are more powerful ones, just very few are engine dyno'd.

    Besides, how many supra's run 7.83 in the quarter, irriguardless of the hp produced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kendogg
    It is possible, but were these engines truly Engine dyno'd? Thats the only claim I made. Like I said, AFAIK, unless somebody can show proof of a 2JZ on an ENGINE dyno, not a chassis dyno, then I'll believe it. Not trying to start anything, I'm sure there are more powerful ones, just very few are engine dyno'd.

    Besides, how many supra's run 7.83 in the quarter, irriguardless of the hp produced.
    hmmm yeah i see what your saying ill have to look into it and as far as your 7.83 second run theres MVP drag car Bostlogics Drag supra and lets not forget the mighty Titan racing supra theres a guy in florida named Sherbaz his supra is there hmmmm maybe a couple more the only hting i cant confirm is how they dyno'ed thats beyond me right now but i know theres some 1500HP supras running around still nice to see I6's doing big shit like this m3 lovin it

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    http://www.titanmotorsports.com/

    7.94 and that is supposedly "record breaking"
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    http://www.suprastore.com/top10014miti.html


    1. [email protected] KRYSTOS EFANTIS MSP RACING 3315lbs DRs best MPH 185.44

    2. 7.94@181Gary White Titan Motorsports 3.4L, GT55-88, nitrous, PG 8.9@163 on the stock 6 speed

    3. 8.02@17x(need trap speed) Boostlogic. GT47-80, TH400, nitrous, 3000lbs(?)

    4. 8.19@166 Chris Anderson AAP Powerglide

    5. 8.34@171 Dana Westover/Virtual Works Auto GT47-88, nitrous, full weight
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    That is in no way a fucking street car, its back halfed for christ sake.

    and he doesnt have any rules hes building his car by where as titan and the rest of the supras have limits.

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    another good point made by big baller imagine if they didnt go by the rule book man the possibilities are endless man

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    WTF, how about nearly every NHRA Pro RWD running a 2JZ, all deep in the 6's. Id say they are a tad faster... Even NHRA Modified imports are low 7's, most with 2JZ's. Now of course these are unibody, Tube Frame, purpose-built drag cars, but its still a turbo I6 thats hella faster than the Bimmer posted (which looks purpose-built also, even if it is "street legal" in Sweden).


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    BTW these motors are running 1500+ BHP


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    To run 6's chances are those guys are pushing closer to 2000-2500 hp

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    Modified class cars are 1500+, I dont even want to know what Pro RWD cars are running


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    meh think what you want...

    who cares if it has been tubbed? That makes it not street legal? Do you notice there is a spot for headlights... if u went to link on bimmerforums taillights were kept for a reason...

    I in theory COULD do this here in the states... with my car... and as long as I had 02 simulators and didnt have that crazy side dump exhaust i could drive it on the street and get it registered... not saying i wouldnt get pulled over

    i was just posting something up showing that there are other GREAT motors that come from elsewhere besides 2Js, SR20s, RB's etc...

    Hell that S38 motor makes more stock HP NA from a 3.8L I-6 than the the RB26 and 2J do and they are turbo...
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    no disrepsect meant to the I6 but when you make it seem to be the highest Hp or fastest it still has some ways to go cause teh 2JZ still kicks ass in both those fields but if i owned a m3 no doubt id boost and rock the shit out of it

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    yah.. i didnt say it was the highest HP...

    Kendogg did and he said AFAIK... so he didnt really know..

    BUTTTTTT

    that car has stock block and crank... then forged pistons and rods... thats CRAZY!!!
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    KICK ASS CAR.

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    I guess you can get any motor to make good power. The only important ? is if you have cubic dollars in you wallet to make it happen. I think it takes double the money to make that BMW than a 2jz and makes less power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turbodave
    I guess you can get any motor to make good power. The only important ? is if you have cubic dollars in you wallet to make it happen. I think it takes double the money to make that BMW than a 2jz and makes less power.
    well not "any" motor hehehe

    from my experience... when u are doing stuff like that.. its all the same money...

    turbos for the cars are equal price.. intercoolers are equal price... building a head for crazy boost weather on a 2J and nthe S38 should be about the same...

    building a crazy motor is building a motor... its ussually all the same thing ussually when u are dealing with this kind of power...

    The S38 in the videos is really not all that built and still got 1422... its stock block, stock crank, forged rods and pistons... built head...
    thats it for the actually Engine itself...
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    At the end of the day if he really wanted to go fast he would have put a V8 in it anyways.

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    ACTUALLY U ALL ARE WRONG. IT NOT ALL ABOUT POWER BUT THE CHASIS HAS TO BE RIGHT AS WELL. THE COMPONENTS CONECTED TO THE MTR DOESNT REALLY COUNT AS THE ENGINE BUILD. CARBON FIBER INTAKE MANIFOLD, TURBOS (2 OF THE BIG ONES), CUSTOM WATER TO AIR INTERCOOLER. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THE REAR SECTION OF THE CAR HAS BEEN TUBBED, NARROWED AND FULLY (WHATEVER WRDS MEAN ENCLOSED WITH SHEETMETAL AND BOXED IN). DO I HAVE TO TEACH YAWL ER-THANG?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTEC
    ACTUALLY U ALL ARE WRONG. IT NOT ALL ABOUT POWER BUT THE CHASIS HAS TO BE RIGHT AS WELL. THE COMPONENTS CONECTED TO THE MTR DOESNT REALLY COUNT AS THE ENGINE BUILD. CARBON FIBER INTAKE MANIFOLD, TURBOS (2 OF THE BIG ONES), CUSTOM WATER TO AIR INTERCOOLER. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THE REAR SECTION OF THE CAR HAS BEEN TUBBED, NARROWED AND FULLY (WHATEVER WRDS MEAN ENCLOSED WITH SHEETMETAL AND BOXED IN). DO I HAVE TO TEACH YAWL ER-THANG?
    wow dude... really? the car build has more to do then just the motor...


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    Quote Originally Posted by DinanM3atl
    wow dude... really? the car build has more to do then just the motor...


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    OH, A NOOB. EVERYBODY ELSE WOULDVE KNOWN THAT WAS A JOKE, HENSE THE F&F QUOTE OF "2 OF THE BIG ONES". SMART GUY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTEC
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    OH, A NOOB. EVERYBODY ELSE WOULDVE KNOWN THAT WAS A JOKE, HENSE THE F&F QUOTE OF "2 OF THE BIG ONES". SMART GUY.
    wow u have 12,000 post on importatlanta...

    YOU ARE SOOOOO COOL...

    come over to bimmerforums.com
    where i spend more of my time
    or euroteknik.com/forum

    get a life dude ur calling me a forum noob... hahhahahahha
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinanM3atl
    wow u have 12,000 post on importatlanta...

    YOU ARE SOOOOO COOL...

    come over to bimmerforums.com
    where i spend more of my time
    or euroteknik.com/forum

    get a life dude ur calling me a forum noob... hahhahahahha
    I WAS JUST SAYING U DNT POST THAT MUCH ON HERE SO THAT IS PROLLY Y U DIDNT REALIZE I WAS JOKING. I DNT MESS WITH BMW'S SO Y WOULD I GO ON A BIMMER FORUM? I MOST PLAY WITH MATCHBOX CARS (HONDAS) SO I DEFINITELY WOULDNT FIT IN ON EUROTEKNIK. GET A LIFE? LOOKS LIKE WE BOTH NEED TO DO THAT. AS FOR U BEING A FORUM NOOB I DNT KNOW BUT UR ARE A NOOB OR HERE. Y R U GETTING SO DEFENSIVE FOR THOUGH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTEC
    I WAS JUST SAYING U DNT POST THAT MUCH ON HERE SO THAT IS PROLLY Y U DIDNT REALIZE I WAS JOKING. I DNT MESS WITH BMW'S SO Y WOULD I GO ON A BIMMER FORUM? I MOST PLAY WITH MATCHBOX CARS (HONDAS) SO I DEFINITELY WOULDNT FIT IN ON EUROTEKNIK. GET A LIFE? LOOKS LIKE WE BOTH NEED TO DO THAT. AS FOR U BEING A FORUM NOOB I DNT KNOW BUT UR ARE A NOOB OR HERE. Y R U GETTING SO DEFENSIVE FOR THOUGH?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinanM3atl
    turn off caps... hurts my eyes
    i have a life... there are no track events right this minute so i forum surf
    no prob. so are do u race for a living or something? that would be cool. i thought u were like the owner of autofab or something. i gather that from the sig and the dude posting about exhaust wrk a while back. i dnt know if it was u or not.

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    Question:

    If a motor makes 1000 HP on an ENGINE dyno, wouldn't it make LESS IN THE CAR?????

    So how if this BMW engine makes 1000+ HP OUT of the car would it make MORE power than 2jz's IN the car that dyno'd IN the car 1000+ HP to the ground?

    BTW, if I'm not mistaken that new NDRA dragster class uses a 2jz motor as well. I think those guys are doing some testing and are running some low numbers so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTEC
    no prob. so are do u race for a living or something? that would be cool. i thought u were like the owner of autofab or something. i gather that from the sig and the dude posting about exhaust wrk a while back. i dnt know if it was u or not.
    im a tech/fabricator/welder

    but im a driver - im working my way into full out just driving... couple years away!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900
    Question:

    If a motor makes 1000 HP on an ENGINE dyno, wouldn't it make LESS IN THE CAR?????

    So how if this BMW engine makes 1000+ HP OUT of the car would it make MORE power than 2jz's IN the car that dyno'd IN the car 1000+ HP to the ground?

    BTW, if I'm not mistaken that new NDRA dragster class uses a 2jz motor as well. I think those guys are doing some testing and are running some low numbers so far.
    yes... you are correct... 1422 on the engine dyno... prolly 1250 to the wheels... maybe a little bit more

    im not into drag racing.. its kind of lame... i was just posting it because its something

    BESIDES a supra with a 2j... ive seen enough supras with single turbos doing this... its old and boring
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinanM3atl
    im a tech/fabricator/welder

    but im a driver - im working my way into full out just driving... couple years away!!!

    Thomas owns autofab
    ahh, yeah i used to do all of that as well but had to put it on hold for a while. i would like to do the real time touring cup racing like on speed vision with pierre kleinubing (sp). i want to own my own shop, build cars and race. thats all i wnt to do. its alot but im no stranger and am not affraid to wrk. but the reason things are on hold is i cant figure out how to get there.

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    Ryan Woon put like 1600hp to the ground in a car that is way more of a street car than that BMW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Baller
    Ryan Woon put like 1600hp to the ground in a car that is way more of a street car than that BMW.
    DNT LOOK LIKE THEY BUILT THE BMW TO BE A STREET CAR MR BALLER SIR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTEC
    DNT LOOK LIKE THEY BUILT THE BMW TO BE A STREET CAR MR BALLER SIR.

    According to the BMW expert thats a street car.

    Which just shows how fucking stupid this post is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Baller
    According to the BMW expert thats a street car.

    Which just shows how fucking stupid this post is.

    u cant read moron...

    i said its "street legal"


    not "street car"

    wow... read before u post... then u wont sound stupid...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Baller
    According to the BMW expert thats a street car.

    Which just shows how fucking stupid this post is.
    WHAT? I DNT THINK THE EXHAUST COMING OUT OF THE DOOR IS LEGAL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTEC
    WHAT? I DNT THINK THE EXHAUST COMING OUT OF THE DOOR IS LEGAL.

    WOW LEARN TO READ...

    jesus christ


    its street legal in sweden...

    for here in the states u need cats and full exhaust...

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    Hey dumbfuck, do you actually think that its street legal anywhere?

    YES\NO

    If you answer yes then you are just as big a fucking idiot as I thought.

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