Who says 2JZ is best straight six for Boost
BMW MPOWER bitches
http://www.vsmotor.no/wmv/vsmotor-m3-tullinge-805.wmv
http://www.vsmotor.no/wmv/vsmotor-m3-tullinge-783.wmv
Nuff said
BMW E36 M3 w/ S38 m5 motor turbocharged
and its street legal in sweden and except for cats would be street legal here
Last edited by DinanM3atl; 08-24-2006 at 05:00 PM.
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
yah pictures
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
AFAIK, this is the most powerful inline 6 engine ever built to date. Tested on an engine dyno, I should say. There is possibility of a few 2JZ's being more powerful, but I don't think any of those have ever been engine dyno'd, most of those are chassis dyno'd once they are already in the car.
BMW M power FTW!!!
AND, I don't recall ANY of Vidar Strands engines ever failing in any kind of race or event. His E34 M5 with 1190 BHP and a 2 speed powerglide also running 8's in the quarter. However, it's fairly well known in the circles that follow his cars that whenever he goes to an event, he normally does trash a gearbox at most every event. From what I've been told, he runs a 2 speed powerglide in all of his setups for the drag strips, and an built E34 M5 Getrag 280 for the track. Unfortunately, there is no gearbox that I know of that can take 1200+ bhp on a road course for hours of the kind of abuse that he puts the car thru, but the motor sure does take it
nice as BMW but i think if you check Supraforums theres a couple of Supras already past that HP mark bro so it aint the fastest I6 sorry ................but its nice
It is possible, but were these engines truly Engine dyno'd? Thats the only claim I made. Like I said, AFAIK, unless somebody can show proof of a 2JZ on an ENGINE dyno, not a chassis dyno, then I'll believe it. Not trying to start anything, I'm sure there are more powerful ones, just very few are engine dyno'd.Originally Posted by G.O.D
Besides, how many supra's run 7.83 in the quarter, irriguardless of the hp produced.
hmmm yeah i see what your saying ill have to look into it and as far as your 7.83 second run theres MVP drag car Bostlogics Drag supra and lets not forget the mighty Titan racing supra theres a guy in florida named Sherbaz his supra is there hmmmm maybe a couple more the only hting i cant confirm is how they dyno'ed thats beyond me right now but i know theres some 1500HP supras running around still nice to see I6's doing big shit like this m3 lovin it
http://www.titanmotorsports.com/
7.94 and that is supposedly "record breaking"
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
http://www.suprastore.com/top10014miti.html
1. [email protected] KRYSTOS EFANTIS MSP RACING 3315lbs DRs best MPH 185.44
2. 7.94@181Gary White Titan Motorsports 3.4L, GT55-88, nitrous, PG 8.9@163 on the stock 6 speed
3. 8.02@17x(need trap speed) Boostlogic. GT47-80, TH400, nitrous, 3000lbs(?)
4. 8.19@166 Chris Anderson AAP Powerglide
5. 8.34@171 Dana Westover/Virtual Works Auto GT47-88, nitrous, full weight
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
That is in no way a fucking street car, its back halfed for christ sake.
and he doesnt have any rules hes building his car by where as titan and the rest of the supras have limits.
another good point made by big baller imagine if they didnt go by the rule book man the possibilities are endless man
WTF, how about nearly every NHRA Pro RWD running a 2JZ, all deep in the 6's. Id say they are a tad faster... Even NHRA Modified imports are low 7's, most with 2JZ's. Now of course these are unibody, Tube Frame, purpose-built drag cars, but its still a turbo I6 thats hella faster than the Bimmer posted (which looks purpose-built also, even if it is "street legal" in Sweden).
BTW these motors are running 1500+ BHP
To run 6's chances are those guys are pushing closer to 2000-2500 hp
Modified class cars are 1500+, I dont even want to know what Pro RWD cars are running
meh think what you want...
who cares if it has been tubbed? That makes it not street legal? Do you notice there is a spot for headlights... if u went to link on bimmerforums taillights were kept for a reason...
I in theory COULD do this here in the states... with my car... and as long as I had 02 simulators and didnt have that crazy side dump exhaust i could drive it on the street and get it registered... not saying i wouldnt get pulled over
i was just posting something up showing that there are other GREAT motors that come from elsewhere besides 2Js, SR20s, RB's etc...
Hell that S38 motor makes more stock HP NA from a 3.8L I-6 than the the RB26 and 2J do and they are turbo...
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
no disrepsect meant to the I6 but when you make it seem to be the highest Hp or fastest it still has some ways to go cause teh 2JZ still kicks ass in both those fields but if i owned a m3 no doubt id boost and rock the shit out of it
yah.. i didnt say it was the highest HP...
Kendogg did and he said AFAIK... so he didnt really know..
BUTTTTTT
that car has stock block and crank... then forged pistons and rods... thats CRAZY!!!
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
KICK ASS CAR.
I guess you can get any motor to make good power. The only important ? is if you have cubic dollars in you wallet to make it happen. I think it takes double the money to make that BMW than a 2jz and makes less power.
well not "any" motor
from my experience... when u are doing stuff like that.. its all the same money...
turbos for the cars are equal price.. intercoolers are equal price... building a head for crazy boost weather on a 2J and nthe S38 should be about the same...
building a crazy motor is building a motor... its ussually all the same thing ussually when u are dealing with this kind of power...
The S38 in the videos is really not all that built and still got 1422... its stock block, stock crank, forged rods and pistons... built head...
thats it for the actually Engine itself...
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
At the end of the day if he really wanted to go fast he would have put a V8 in it anyways.
ACTUALLY U ALL ARE WRONG. IT NOT ALL ABOUT POWER BUT THE CHASIS HAS TO BE RIGHT AS WELL. THE COMPONENTS CONECTED TO THE MTR DOESNT REALLY COUNT AS THE ENGINE BUILD. CARBON FIBER INTAKE MANIFOLD, TURBOS (2 OF THE BIG ONES), CUSTOM WATER TO AIR INTERCOOLER. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY THE REAR SECTION OF THE CAR HAS BEEN TUBBED, NARROWED AND FULLY (WHATEVER WRDS MEAN ENCLOSED WITH SHEETMETAL AND BOXED IN). DO I HAVE TO TEACH YAWL ER-THANG?
wow dude... really? the car build has more to do then just the motor...
THANX!!!
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
Join Date: Feb 2006wow dude... really? the car build has more to do then just the motor...
THANX!!!
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OH, A NOOB. EVERYBODY ELSE WOULDVE KNOWN THAT WAS A JOKE, HENSE THE F&F QUOTE OF "2 OF THE BIG ONES". SMART GUY.
wow u have 12,000 post on importatlanta...
YOU ARE SOOOOO COOL...
come over to bimmerforums.com
where i spend more of my time
or euroteknik.com/forum
get a life dude ur calling me a forum noob... hahhahahahha
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
I WAS JUST SAYING U DNT POST THAT MUCH ON HERE SO THAT IS PROLLY Y U DIDNT REALIZE I WAS JOKING. I DNT MESS WITH BMW'S SO Y WOULD I GO ON A BIMMER FORUM?
Ryan Woon put like 1600hp to the ground in a car that is way more of a street car than that BMW.
DNT LOOK LIKE THEY BUILT THE BMW TO BE A STREET CAR MR BALLER SIR.
DNT LOOK LIKE THEY BUILT THE BMW TO BE A STREET CAR MR BALLER SIR.
According to the BMW expert thats a street car.
Which just shows how fucking stupid this post is.
u cant read moron...
i said its "street legal"
not "street car"
wow... read before u post... then u wont sound stupid...
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
WHAT? I DNT THINK THE EXHAUST COMING OUT OF THE DOOR IS LEGAL.
WOW LEARN TO READ...
jesus christ
its street legal in sweden...
for here in the states u need cats and full exhaust...
wow
1997 M3/4/5
2004 X4 4.4i
1987 325iS 24V 6speed
Hey dumbfuck, do you actually think that its street legal anywhere?
YES\NO
If you answer yes then you are just as big a fucking idiot as I thought.
This thread has turned ghey with a quickness. Bottom Line: thats one bad ass Bimmer
I AGREEThis thread has turned ghey with a quickness. Bottom Line: thats one bad ass Bimmer
ill say this i wont go tick for tack on it but this m3 or for tha matter any m3 has yet to produce or come close to what the 2jz produces and accoplishes i could go on all day and name so many supras plus you go tot htink bang for buck it cost so much to build up a m3 or m5 to a standard of a 2jz equipped anything now you feel is boring but damn i think old school BMW's are boring and boxy looking only thing i like is the engine bay cause of cleaniness so id say your aruguement is not solid man. also the bmw is not street legal anywhere i would know i just left from being stationed in europe they got this thing called tufe "i might have spelled it wrong" and the polizie over there definitly wouldnt play the exhaust coming out the side my man trust me
What kind of money does itt ake to make some numbers with a 2jz? I'm genuinly curious, I really have no idea, enver liked toyota anything personally, so, ya know, never cared to research. Can somebody give me a few ballpark figures, like, a few minor bolt-ons with a price, turbo with a price, and maybe crazy turbo with a price?
Just so you guys know, thats not an engine that EVER came in any M3. That engine is from an M5. Vidar Strand uses that engine because it's basically the most bulletproof engine BMW has ever built in recent years that insane power can be built from.
As for the engine dyno thing, idk, it was somethign I read about his eninges. I never meant to say that it was the absolute all-mighty most powerful engine ever, i just meant that not many people put an engine on an engine dyno, and get the true, exact output of the engine for proof. This is the most powerful engine he's built yet from the S38 family, I believe, and I think he's going to keep pushing the envelope. Only problem I forsee is hi running out of engines to build, lmfao. The S38 is slightly rare. there were about 1000 put into the M1 in 1979-1980, somewhere around there, then roughly 3k in the E28 M5, then not sure about the E34 M5.
Cost of buidling a 2JZ> "M" Anything
Availability of parts for a 2jz>"M" Anything
Supras are somewhat easy to get POWER out of, they do cost money, but its not too bad. with $9000-10,000(you do the labor) you can make 1200-1400 WHP, thats WHEEL HORSE POWER, not FLYWHEEL HORSE POWER.
HANDS DOWN the Supra motor is the BEST IMPORT MOTOR in terms of aftermarket support, reliability, power out put, availability of parts, ease to work on. They are simple motors, i put Turbo Daves Cylinder head together when he was busy , i had never touched a toyota before, but they ahd a similar layout to a honda head so it was easy.
they OWN all IMHO
still a nice BMW
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