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http://www.filecabi.net/video/AcceptableUseofTortu.html
gwinett county cop tazer a guy to death
sorry if it a repost
http://www.filecabi.net/video/AcceptableUseofTortu.html
Pretty obvious that they killed him. That many cops and they couldn't restrain him without deadly force?
damn do i hate pigs.
makes it so much worse that he's black.
no offense to anyone.
that's just wrong. if i was related to this dude i would do whatever i could to put this pigs in jail. it's clear that it's murder.
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thats clearly murder. 20+ guys are they have to continuously taser the poor guy.
So, true.Originally Posted by osiriskidd
With 20 guys, I don't see how they couldn't just overpower him? They can't sit on his ass? Throw him in a holding cell until he calms down like they do everyone else supposedly? Man, this makes me sick to my stomach and I never seemed to like Gwinnett County Police Officers because they always harassed me for nothing, but now... I don't even know what to say..
Damn, now thats fucced up.. Fucc Gwinnett County cops!
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wow.. its ridiculous how many instances there are when cops abuse their power.. so many cops have criminal records, seriously, when i see this, it makes me hate cops.. ive dealt with many, and most of the ones ive delt with were cool.. but then again, i would never resist arrest or try to fight them.. always very courteous, if you comply and do what they say, they can be d!cks, but thats about it..
murder for murder... wouldn't you say so?!?!?
JDM = Just a Dumb MotherFu**er...
http://www.truthnews.us/?p=223
It all began when Williams’ wife called 911 to report that Williams was behaving in a violent manner due to problems caused by medications he had been prescribed for epilepsy. (Bear in mind: Williams had neither threatened nor harmed anyone. Also, he was unarmed. His “violent” behavior, so far, amounted to nothing more than walking up and down his own driveway, “talking crazy.”)
In her 911 call, Mrs. Williams made it clear that her husband’s behavior was a result of his problems with the medication. Also, this information was repeated to the first police officer to arrive on the scene not only by Mrs. Williams, but also a deacon from the Williams’ church. They begged the officer not to approach Williams without backup from other officers, for they were concerned for the officer’s safety.
The officer responded by pulling out his baton, approaching Williams, and shouting for him to shut up. When the grievously afflicted Williams did not shut up, the officer began beating Williams with the baton. Williams reacted by grabbing the baton. A struggle over the baton ensued, during which the officer fell and sustained a minor injury; he then retreated and radioed for backup.
Backup arrived in the form of 10-15 cops. Together, they somehow managed to subdue the “crazy talking” Williams; that is, they all piled in to him and hog-tied him. Very brave.
Meanwhile, Williams’ wife and four young children, also the deacon and others begged the police to take Williams to the hospital for treatment. The police replied: “This guy has injured one of Our Own. We will take him to the jail and deal with him. We have all of the medicine we need at the jail.”
Mrs. Williams tried to give her husband’s medications to the police, but they knew better, of course; they had better medicine at the jail.
Meanwhile, the deacon had called the pastor of the church; the pastor asked to speak to an officer. The pastor too explained that Williams’ behavior was due to epilepsy and begged for medical attention. But he, too, was told the same: Williams will be treated with medicine at the county jail.
The medicine, apparently, was a Taser gun. Five jolts from a Taser, to be precise. Five jolts into the chest. In less than a minute. With several deputies holding him down. Police work at its finest.
In the aforementioned video, one deputy can be heard saying, “Do you want another one?”
Williams’ response (his last words, in fact): “Please don’t kill me …”
that **** is horrible. did anything happen to those officers
I think I read that the charges were dropped and the jury didn't want to see the video.
It will be "under investigation" (internal affairs office reading reports on what happend) and the officers will probably be repremanded. Which means suspended (vacation) with pay. thats what usually happens.
hearing about all this crap with police officers abusing their power makes me think about what i would do if i was in a similar situation.
i just watched the video. I dont know what to say other than just friggin horrible. Looks like they were tazering him AFTER he was dead.
wow, just wow....
ya wow
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****ing dirty ass cops...i hope they all die slow and painful deaths
The officers have been exonerated. GCPD swept it all under the rug. The blue wall shields the cops again. The medical examiner could not determine the reason for death, so they are claiming that it was excited delirium. Nevermind that they have no proof of that, and Taser Intl gave them that "reason". Basically, they are covering it up, and will do the same to you if they don't like you.
Just to clear the apparent things up.....
its not the GCPD, its teh gwinnett county sheriffs office you should be pissed at....
and for those looking for 'new' word/info. you might want to take notice that this event occured in 2004..... as indicated in the corner of the video
but still its ****** up
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i thought this was recent.
that is messed up. i hope they pay for their actions.
The guy was flipping out and they told him to calm down but it is hard to when you have 8 cops holding you down. Nobody knows for sure if things had happened differently that his death could have been prevented but I am pretty sure those cops are going straight to ****ing hell.
the pigs told him to stop resisting but he wasnt resisting he was shaken from the fvckin taser...
from guns to tazers, which are supposedly deemed to be "non lethal"
I remember reading that the tazer manufactures suggested the user should only target fatty areas of the body.originally posted by tracy
The medicine, apparently, was a Taser gun. Five jolts from a Taser, to be precise. Five jolts into the chest. In less than a minute. With several deputies holding him down. Police work at its finest.
" Serve and Protect " should be removed from every car. May the officer's children know that their father is a murderer and may they carry that weight for the rest of their days.
wow. what an incompetent bunch of a55holes.
That's disgusting how can someone watch that, and dispute what happened? That's plane as ****ing day.
damn its old tho 2004
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am i the only one no able to see the video?
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This s h i t makes you just fear the police.
And they wonder why innocent people run from the cops.
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Not all police are evil. Clearly looking back at that we can see it was terribly excessive use of force, but put yourself in their place at the time. There dealing with a person who is very clearly not co-operating. It was even posted earlier that his meds were making him act out in that manner, now it doesn't matter how many people are pleading with the officers that it was just his meds, all they know is they have a invidual who is acting in this way and he got into a scuffle with aother officer and injured him. I HIGHLY doubt that they were intending to kill him, expecially with the camera running. It's a pretty far fetched story to say that 10-20 individual officers were attempting to kill him, by either act of the tazer or the inaction to stop the tazering. More likely the emotions of the moment coupled with the intensity and speed of the situation caused the ones in control of the tazers to make a few bad decisions. Does that make them heartless murders? No. Did they make terrible decisions regarding their use of force? Absolutely. But at the end of the day it's so easy for everyone here to play computer chair judge and label the ones who made the bad decisions "murders", not one of us was there and really had a idea of everything that was going on. I'm sure most if not all of them feel horrible that the man died.
but still if you are hog tied you can't hurt anyone one unless you head butt them. all they had to do was put him on the ground and and let him calm down. i know i'm no cop but that common sense to me.
Never said what they did was right, just that I don't believe that was their intention. Even if your restrained like that you can still wiggle and crap, possibly hurt yourself also.
Well homework was done on this topic:
This individual had a lethal amount of PCP, Cocaine, and heroin.
He fought so hard they cuffed him and then had to shackle his legs.
he died while fighting, punching, kicking, and biting anything he could, in the end he wounded 3 officers. he went hanibal lecter on one of them, sending them to the hospital.
regardless the police had to maintain the upper hand but PCP.... google that **** for yourself and see the effects, ie. strength, rage, hallucinations....
sucks that he died but hey, you get all that **** in you and see how you hold up...
police were in possesion of him when he died however. all that **** at the end of the video is biased. and i myself have been tazered, over 20 times... 45,000 volts and 26,000 volts....roomates.... its really not that bad
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Do some more homework, as you are a moron.
Frederick Jerome Williams, 31, a Liberian native who lived in Lawrenceville, died of brain damage from a heart attack after the altercation in May, according to the final autopsy report in the case. But investigators at the Gwinnett County medical examiner''s office were not able to determine what caused Williams'' heart attack, according to the report.
The medical examiner did not find drugs in his system but reported finding bruising on his body and five burns on his chest attributed to the Taser gun.
Are we supposed to believe that a healthy 31-year-old black man who was athletic, who did not drink or do drugs, who had no history of heart problems, somehow died of a heart attack?
Williams' autopsy results were similar to those released after the death of inmate Ray Austin after a scuffle with deputies at the Gwinnett jail in September 2003.
Austin was shocked three times with a Taser, medicated with psychotropic drugs and restrained in a chair during the incident. Austin, who bit off part of a deputy''s ear, lost consciousness shortly afterward.
The medical examiner ruled that Austin died of a heart attack but could not determine what caused his heart failure.
A settlement made in December, 2006 by officials in Gwinnett County, Georgia, is one of the first reports of compensation handed over to the family of a a Taser death victim. The details of this report only recently surfaced, because officials did not allow a public vote or discussion on the matter and restricted all parties involved from revealing any information about the settlement. In the settlement, the family received an amount of $100,000 from the county to end a wrongful-death lawsuit.
Now, let me tase you 5 times in less than a minute....
I doubt that strongly, supposedly the family was even claiming that his "meds" were causing him to act that way. If you want to go on what the family said then by all means if his "meds" were causing him to act out in such a violent way then it's entirely possible that his "meds" caused his heart attack.
If you want to go with the "official" report, then why would a seemingly healthy, athletic drug free man go ape **** like that, long before any police showed up, and continue to do so after the first officers arrived? Is it not possible that what ever was wrong with him at the time caused such strain on his heart that it gave out? I mean he wasn't exactly acting normal now was he. I think this is a case where there is way more going on behind the scenes that anyone knows. It's all nice and good to say the tazer killed him, but somehow I strongly doubt that. I think the issue is compounded due to the fact that he was black, and the majourity of the officers involved were white.
All of the information came from the autopsy report. It is public record. His family claimed that he did not take his medication, thus his behavior. Regardless, that many cops had him in an enclosed area, and were obviously in control of him. There is no reason for a potentially lethal use of force.
If a person has been struggling for a prolonged period, and has an elevated heart rate, then that is all the more reason not to use a device that could potentially kill them. Common sense for a "trained law enforcement officer".
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