FS K20A2 95 Civic Coupe

**dizzle** · 03-18-2006, 01:09 PM

Posting up for a friend... located in VA.
black 95 EX coupe Civic( 110,000 miles on body) with a
K20A2 swap with less then 7,000 miles on the engine an tranny. got 14G's invested in the Engine an suspension alone. over 25G's invested in the car(including what was payed for the car) heres a list of the mods:

K20A2 is a US spec RSX Type-S engine with a 6-Speed tranny for anyone who didnt know, the one in it is out of a 2003 RSX, the engine only had 6,400 miles when put into the civic

Hasport motor mounts
Hasport stage 2 axels
Hasport header
Hasport Harness
Integra GSR suspension (including rear disc brake convo) stops on a dime
Brembo rotors front an back
Omni full thread coilvoers
Energy suspension urethane bushings
Fidanza lightened fly wheel
Clutchmasters stage 2 clutch
AEM fuel rail
K pro stand alone engine management (the ecu was sent to hondata an tuned for this car with mods , V-Tec kicks in at 4,500 rpms.....siiiick)
Carbon Fiber valve cover
triple A-pillar with AC autotechinq air/fuel oil pressure an water temp gauges
AC Atuotechniq gage face over lays
AXIS Decade rims witht he MAXXIS lip ( 3 1/4 chrome lip in the rear 2" chrome lip in the front makes it look like a BMW or 350Z with a siiick offset
Nitto Neo Gen tires less then 600 miles on rims an tires
lots of lil things DC oil cap, ITR Shift boot,
Buddy Club rear bumper
M3 sideskirts (not installed)
also has a JDM DC2 ITR conversion for this civic got it from VFIBER.com

im sure im forgettin some things but thats all i can think of now. this car is very very fast. alot faster then he was thinkin it would be. car runs like a champ an handles like a dream. heres your chance to own a K seris civic which are gonna put B series engines in the past. for more info email him at:
[email protected] or call him at 540-691-9998 or AIM Cr33pin INC
asking $14,000 OBO with the ITR conversion
$13,000 with out the conversion

VIN # WILL BE SENT UPON REQUEST IN PM OR CONTACT OWNER, TRAVIS

PICS

**lilmanx01** · 03-18-2006, 01:51 PM

damn....its beatiful -> free bump

**Vteckidd** · 03-18-2006, 02:30 PM

K pro stand alone engine management (the ecu was sent to hondata an tuned for this car with mods , V-Tec kicks in at 4,500 rpms.....siiiick)

Kpro isnt a stand alone engine managment, its a Piggy back.

good luck on the sale, thats a pretty steep price, but its got alot invested in it. He would have better luck selling it on Honda-tech.com

**94LSEG** · 03-18-2006, 03:26 PM

bump for you

**pInoy_R** · 03-18-2006, 03:53 PM

bump for an engine i wish i had. next year tax season

**FaSaleen** · 03-18-2006, 04:18 PM

free bump

**kenscivic** · 03-18-2006, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by vteckidd

Kpro isnt a stand alone engine managment, its a Piggy back.

good luck on the sale, thats a pretty steep price, but its got alot invested in it. He would have better luck selling it on Honda-tech.com

kpro is a stand alone engine management, but it is not tuned at hondata..

you download k manager and hook up your laptop to the ecu and then you load a basemap and run on it.

really neat features like shutting off obd 2 or raising your rev limiter or adjusting when vtec kicks in, it also gives the ability to adjust timing, also if you choose to boost , you can boost by gear *really neat* also good for tuning for nitrous.

but i guess this is just a long bump, good luck on the sale

**dizzle** · 03-18-2006, 11:22 PM

thanks... night bump

**Vteckidd** · 03-19-2006, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by kenscivic

kpro is a stand alone engine management, but it is not tuned at hondata..

you download k manager and hook up your laptop to the ecu and then you load a basemap and run on it.

really neat features like shutting off obd 2 or raising your rev limiter or adjusting when vtec kicks in, it also gives the ability to adjust timing, also if you choose to boost , you can boost by gear *really neat* also good for tuning for nitrous.

but i guess this is just a long bump, good luck on the sale

WRONG

i know what KPRO is i have one here. KPRO is a PIGGY BACK ENGINE MANAGMENT SYSTEM.

ITS NOT A FULL STANDALONE. sounds like you need to read up on what a standalone engine management is.

See, KPRO still uses a FACTORY ECU. What HONDATA does is solder a Board into the Factory ECU. you then use the Software with Kpro to change fuel, ignition, VTC angles, and more. However, it still requires a MAP sensor, TPS signal and ignition signal. therefore, its a PIGGY BACK

AEM EMS REPLACES the ECU COMPLETELY, and has the ability to turn sensors off, run MAP or MAF, and much more.

but good luck on the sale, i was just correcting your info so people dont think they are getting something they arent

**silversol** · 03-19-2006, 12:35 PM

engine picks?

**kenscivic** · 03-19-2006, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by vteckidd

WRONG

i know what KPRO is i have one here. KPRO is a PIGGY BACK ENGINE MANAGMENT SYSTEM.

ITS NOT A FULL STANDALONE. sounds like you need to read up on what a standalone engine management is.

See, KPRO still uses a FACTORY ECU. What HONDATA does is solder a Board into the Factory ECU. you then use the Software with Kpro to change fuel, ignition, VTC angles, and more. However, it still requires a MAP sensor, TPS signal and ignition signal. therefore, its a PIGGY BACK

AEM EMS REPLACES the ECU COMPLETELY, and has the ability to turn sensors off, run MAP or MAF, and much more.

but good luck on the sale, i was just correcting your info so people dont think they are getting something they arent

Lol, okay

sounds like you KNOW everything :jerkit:

I guess i can see where you could consider it a piggyback if you are not a very informed person.

look up piggyback and do some research alright buddy

**Vteckidd** · 03-19-2006, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by kenscivic

Lol, okay

sounds like you KNOW everything :jerkit:

I guess i can see where you could consider it a piggyback if you are not a very informed person.

look up piggyback and do some research alright buddy

LISTEN NOOB, maybe you dont know who i am, but you should ask around.

If you think KPRO is a STAND ALONE ENGINE MANAGMENT SYSTEM, then your WRONG. Define Piggy Back for me. Define Stand ALone

IF IT USES A FACTORY ECU then its a PIGGY BACK, just like an AFC, just like a SAFC, Hondata S200, Uberdata, Crome, ETC. They all USE FACTORY ECUs so they are PIGGYBACKS

A STAND ALONE ENGINE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM would be AEM EMS, DTA, MOTECH, HALTECH, which REPLACE the ECU completely.

You get KPRO by MAILING your FACTORY ECU to HONDATA, where they then INSTALL A KNOCK BOARD and USB interface cable into your FACTORY ECU. Shown here:

Originally Posted by Hondata

The K-Series Programmable ECU (K-Pro) consists of a hardware modification to any K-Series ECU, plus Windows software which allows you to re-program the ECU and datalog sensors.

READ THIS:
KPRO FAQ

SO if KPRO was a STANDALONE why the fuck would you HAVE to send it to HONDATA? answer me that. if its a standalone, theres no need to modify the factory ECU so therefore it shouldnt have to be mailed in. answer me that question.

Like for instance when you buy an AEM EMS system, it comes in a box with software. You dont have to MAIL your ECU into AEM. why ? cause EMS REPLACES THE FACTORY ECU , hence why its called a standalone engine management system.

KPRO is a piggy back
AEM EMS is STANDALONE

dont argue when your wrong, i was merely correcting the posters information. it was incorrect, if you want to argue more, i will be happy to prove you wrong even further.

**kenscivic** · 03-19-2006, 01:15 PM

berrrnnnn.. i got own3d.

**Julio** · 03-19-2006, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by kenscivic

berrrnnnn.. i got own3d.

yeah you did. Is all good though, atleast you admitted

**ranj** · 03-19-2006, 01:22 PM

Beautiful car nice work man.

**CHADbee** · 03-19-2006, 01:28 PM

damn thats a nice car. bump for u.

**A.P. Photography** · 03-19-2006, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by kenscivic

berrrnnnn.. i got own3d.

+1 for admitting it

**imbosile** · 03-19-2006, 01:32 PM

wow you just got raped.

**kenscivic** · 03-19-2006, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by imbosile

wow you just got raped.

i wouldnt say "raped" i was just mis informed on what a piggyback and standalone were... i always thought a chipped ecu could still be considered a stand alone.. oops

**SOHC MONSTER** · 03-19-2006, 03:39 PM

Bump for a nice coupe!

**B00STedSvT** · 03-19-2006, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by vteckidd

LISTEN NOOB, maybe you dont know who i am, but you should ask around.

If you think KPRO is a STAND ALONE ENGINE MANAGMENT SYSTEM, then your WRONG. Define Piggy Back for me. Define Stand ALone

IF IT USES A FACTORY ECU then its a PIGGY BACK, just like an AFC, just like a SAFC, Hondata S200, Uberdata, Crome, ETC. They all USE FACTORY ECUs so they are PIGGYBACKS

A STAND ALONE ENGINE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM would be AEM EMS, DTA, MOTECH, HALTECH, which REPLACE the ECU completely.

You get KPRO by MAILING your FACTORY ECU to HONDATA, where they then INSTALL A KNOCK BOARD and USB interface cable into your FACTORY ECU. Shown here:

READ THIS:
KPRO FAQ

SO if KPRO was a STANDALONE why the fuck would you HAVE to send it to HONDATA? answer me that. if its a standalone, theres no need to modify the factory ECU so therefore it shouldnt have to be mailed in. answer me that question.

Like for instance when you buy an AEM EMS system, it comes in a box with software. You dont have to MAIL your ECU into AEM. why ? cause EMS REPLACES THE FACTORY ECU , hence why its called a standalone engine management system.

KPRO is a piggy back
AEM EMS is STANDALONE

dont argue when your wrong, i was merely correcting the posters information. it was incorrect, if you want to argue more, i will be happy to prove you wrong even further.

Mike...u forgot to mention...BITCH!...clean ass car!!have any times or numbers for it??..damn i wish it was in a hatch...BUMP

**dizzle** · 03-19-2006, 09:29 PM

awesome fight n tha thread... night bump! sum1 wants this car. real nice guy with really nice cars... i can assure u its clean as hell. these r his other cars jus to get a lil preview of how well he takes care of em...

**Retro** · 03-19-2006, 10:28 PM

wow, vteckidd ripped him a new one! lol

**A.P. Photography** · 03-19-2006, 10:33 PM

OHHHHH I want the Teggy

**RutRoe** · 03-20-2006, 12:02 AM

Originally Posted by kenscivic

berrrnnnn.. i got own3d.

For Shizzle.

ImportVirginia.com might be a better place to sell it but it looks cool

**dizzle** · 03-20-2006, 06:42 AM

its already on a VA site, but no luck so far... mornin bump!

**Jdm94Coupe** · 03-20-2006, 07:44 AM

nice cars, but he has the worst choice of wheels for his cars, lol.... see he's got some $$ doe.... good luck w/ the sale

**dizzle** · 03-20-2006, 08:10 AM

agreed... jus tryin to help a friend out tho...

**BigDawg** · 03-20-2006, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by vteckidd

Kpro isnt a stand alone engine managment, its a Piggy back.

good luck on the sale, thats a pretty steep price, but its got alot invested in it. He would have better luck selling it on Honda-tech.com

K-Pro is not a piggy-back either, Mike. A piggy-back alters the signal inline (most often changing fuel and timing by altering MAP readings), The K-Pro is used to change data fields in the ECU itself.

...and yes, this dude will never get that much for this car. Especially with all of that ricey shit on it.

**BigDawg** · 03-20-2006, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by vteckidd

LISTEN NOOB, maybe you dont know who i am, but you should ask around.

If you think KPRO is a STAND ALONE ENGINE MANAGMENT SYSTEM, then your WRONG. Define Piggy Back for me. Define Stand ALone

IF IT USES A FACTORY ECU then its a PIGGY BACK, just like an AFC, just like a SAFC, Hondata S200, Uberdata, Crome, ETC. They all USE FACTORY ECUs so they are PIGGYBACKS

A STAND ALONE ENGINE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM would be AEM EMS, DTA, MOTECH, HALTECH, which REPLACE the ECU completely.

You get KPRO by MAILING your FACTORY ECU to HONDATA, where they then INSTALL A KNOCK BOARD and USB interface cable into your FACTORY ECU. Shown here:

READ THIS:
KPRO FAQ

SO if KPRO was a STANDALONE why the fuck would you HAVE to send it to HONDATA? answer me that. if its a standalone, theres no need to modify the factory ECU so therefore it shouldnt have to be mailed in. answer me that question.

Like for instance when you buy an AEM EMS system, it comes in a box with software. You dont have to MAIL your ECU into AEM. why ? cause EMS REPLACES THE FACTORY ECU , hence why its called a standalone engine management system.

KPRO is a piggy back
AEM EMS is STANDALONE

dont argue when your wrong, i was merely correcting the posters information. it was incorrect, if you want to argue more, i will be happy to prove you wrong even further.

It is neither a stand-alone nor a piggy-back. You are just as wrong as the other person. If you would like to argue more, you know where to find me. A K-Pro does not overlay maps and alter a multitude of signals by tricking the ECU, it actually allows you to alter fields just as a stand-alone does.

**dELfONiK** · 03-20-2006, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by 97tegrl

its already on a VA site, but no luck so far... mornin bump!

Have you tried putting it on www.k20a.org ?

**lilmanx01** · 03-20-2006, 09:06 AM

haha im jst standing back and waiting for vteckidd to rip

**speedminded** · 03-20-2006, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by BigDawg

It is neither a stand-alone nor a piggy-back. You are just as wrong as the other person. If you would like to argue more, you know where to find me. A K-Pro does not overlay maps and alter a multitude of signals by tricking the ECU, it actually allows you to alter fields just as a stand-alone does.

Technically it is not a piggy-back because it is not using a "stock" ECU and allows you modify options at the source instead of just altering the signal as a S-AFC or V-AFC would BUT it works in conjunction with a "bolt on" item to a stock ECU so in theory it is a piggy back to the OEM setup...especially if you compare it to a AEM EMS or Motek that replaces the OEM ECU completely and is ready to go out of the box [with tuning of course].

**Fuster_Cluck** · 03-20-2006, 10:02 AM

Bump for massive 0VVN@GE on page 1

**BigDawg** · 03-20-2006, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by speedminded

Technically it is not a piggy-back because it is not using a "stock" ECU and allows you modify options at the source instead of just altering the signal as a S-AFC or V-AFC would BUT it works in conjunction with a "bolt on" item to a stock ECU so in theory it is a piggy back to the OEM setup...especially if you compare it to a AEM EMS or Motek that replaces the OEM ECU completely and is ready to go out of the box [with tuning of course].

It replaces an internal portion of the ECU and allows control of the maps that are stored within the ECU itself without altering the signal (and causing maps to be overlaid versus allowing control of a variety of parameters independently).

Sorry, there is no argument here. To call it a piggy-back is just flat out WRONG and to call it a stand-alone is just flat out WRONG.

BTW lilmanx01, VTECKIDD is a friend of mine, so it is not going to turn into a shitfest.

**speedminded** · 03-20-2006, 10:07 AM

With the proper suspension and tire setup this car will scream on the track [talkin' road cracing for those people with tunnel vision

] Had one (Chad) this weekend at Road Atlanta with a K20a (Honda ITR) stuffed in a 99si turn a 1:38

**A.P. Photography** · 03-20-2006, 10:10 AM

Ok Drop the bitchfest about the Piggyback/Standalone and just keep this about selling the car. If you want to discuss piggyback/standalone then make a thread in General Tech. Any further discussions from here on will be deleted.

Bump for a nice car.

**speedminded** · 03-20-2006, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by vteckidd

Sorry jarrod your wrong. its a piggy back, because it uses a factory ECU. just like Uberdata, just like Crome, etc.

im not gonna ruin this girls thread anymore.

go to the one in general...i'm copying my post(s) over now.

**dizzle** · 03-20-2006, 02:35 PM

bump for SELLING THIS CAR........

**speedminded** · 03-20-2006, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by 97tegrl

bump for SELLING THIS CAR........

what you talkin' about girl? There is no car for sale here, this is an ECU debate

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