New Audi A4 vs. 95 eclipse

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Wow please shut up... i am sure there throwing the race and being biased... both are bad ass cars leave it alone! chris put you in your place so just stay there! untill you finish your audi then he will put you there again.

Man, you cant argue with one-track people. Some people get hung-up on certain types of cars, and they put the blinders onto everything they dont like as much. He has a 944, so therefore the Porsche must be better. Oh yeah...and because he likes it.

And he'll do that with his STi, right???

You're a funny guy.
BTW, who would you rather do; Boris or Chris?
You seem to be swinging from both of their doogans.

This will be my last post on this topic. I should have stopped a while back, but you insist on taking parting shots. Its amazingly ironic that you can say I have a weak arguement. I give you examples, and you give me "the tests were biased." I see you have a lot of facts there. Top Gear loves German cars, and one of the hosts is an absolute Porsche freak. If you watch their individual test of the Carrera GT, they spent hours trying to perfect its lap times to be able to beat the SLR's time, because they were shooting for a record lap. They finally were able to beat it...by less than a second I believe. I dont think they would have gone through that effort if they were biased against the CGT :jerkit:
Oh, and The F1 was the last real Mclaren? Yeah, lots of facts there too.
Yes, I agree that a Carrera GT is usually faster in tests in the 1/4 mile than an SLR. I didnt make any statements to the contrary. 0-180 is a lot more of an overall acceleration feat than 1/4 mile, for cars such as these. Regardless, there is a lot more to performance than 1/4 mile...you of all people should know that. And there is a lot more to a supercar than just raw performance numbers. Its still a fact that in braking, handling and acceleration, both are very equally matched. It comes down to preference, but you just cant seem to grasp that.
And I still think that an average driver would be faster in the SLR...and since you arent a professional driver that I know of, this probably applies to you too.
Anyway, have fun getting the last word in...Im sure youll have something remarkably factual to retort.

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Man, you cant argue with one-track people. Some people get hung-up on certain types of cars, and they put the blinders onto everything they dont like as much. He has a 944, so therefore the Porsche must be better. Oh yeah...and because he likes it.

This will be my last post on this topic. I should have stopped a while back, but you insist on taking parting shots. Its amazingly ironic that you can say I have a weak arguement. I give you examples, and you give me "the tests were biased." I see you have a lot of facts there. Top Gear loves German cars, and one of the hosts is an absolute Porsche freak. If you watch their individual test of the Carrera GT, they spent hours trying to perfect its lap times to be able to beat the SLR's time, because they were shooting for a record lap. They finally were able to beat it...by less than a second I believe. I dont think they would have gone through that effort if they were biased against the CGT :jerkit:
Oh, and The F1 was the last real Mclaren? Yeah, lots of facts there too.
Yes, I agree that a Carrera GT is usually faster in tests in the 1/4 mile than an SLR. I didnt make any statements to the contrary. 0-180 is a lot more of an overall acceleration feat than 1/4 mile, for cars such as these. Regardless, there is a lot more to performance than 1/4 mile...you of all people should know that. And there is a lot more to a supercar than just raw performance numbers. Its still a fact that in braking, handling and acceleration, both are very equally matched. It comes down to preference, but you just cant seem to grasp that.
And I still think that an average driver would be faster in the SLR...and since you arent a professional driver that I know of, this probably applies to you too.
Anyway, have fun getting the last word in...Im sure youll have something remarkably factual to retort.

Chris, I'm not taking parting shots, but why you agree so much with the "facts" from Top Gear is starting to make me wonder.
Yes, they talk out of their ass, A LOT.
And I wasn't just insisting on 1/4 mile times.
Handling? On most tracks the CGT beats the Enzo. So you're implying that therefore a SLR will also beat an Enzo on the track (not the drag strip, where the Enzo beats both the CGT and SLR).............

I don't prefer the CGT because I drive a 944 (my 944 is a piece of crap and hardly a Porsche to the purists).
I prefer the CGT because in my opinion, and most others' opinions (besides you and Top Gear) it is superior. But again, that's irrelevant in this argument.

And speaking of arguments, your attempt at the straw man was weak..............
A straw man "argument" is a bogus, distorted or deliberately flawed interpretation of an otherwise valid position that has been altered so it can be more easily attacked, delegitimized and disassembled (hence the straw man metaphor) before the eyes and ears of an otherwise impartial audience unfamiliar with the facts and history of an issue or case.

It leads to deliberate ignorance as in, ignoring MOST of the facts, and concentrating on just one that fits your particular reasoning.

Now Chris, I'm done arguing with you, since it is pointless to go on.