2004-05 M3 vs. 99 Civic Si Turbo

**SiPimpin** · 11-25-2005, 12:35 PM

I was comin from my girl's house in Lawrenceville on Thanksgiving night and I see this red 2004-05 M3. I've always wanted to race one of these plus it's one of my favorite cars. It looks stock as i could tell and me i have a mildly built block b16a2 with a garrett t3/t04e pushing around 298whp.

The race:
We did a race from 80-130. I'm in 3rd gear, did 3 honks and were off. He gets the initial jump from the little bit of lag i had. I stopped it pretty quick as through 4th gear i was reeling him in and was side by side with him. 5th gear comes and i'm pulling on him. By the time i shut down at 130 I had about a car lead on him. I was really impressed on how my car performed and the guy gave me a thumbs up. My first really good kill with my car.

**Vuongy_Dong** · 11-25-2005, 12:44 PM

good job man. Next time brake boost and you wont have that lag. I tried it and works great.

**Speedm0(\)key** · 11-25-2005, 04:21 PM

Originally Posted by SiPimpin

I was comin from my girl's house in Lawrenceville on Thanksgiving night and I see this red 2004-05 M3. I've always wanted to race one of these plus it's one of my favorite cars. It looks stock as i could tell and me i have a mildly built block b16a2 with a garrett t3/t04e pushing around 298whp.

The race:
We did a race from 80-130. I'm in 3rd gear, did 3 honks and were off. He gets the initial jump from the little bit of lag i had. I stopped it pretty quick as through 4th gear i was reeling him in and was side by side with him. 5th gear comes and i'm pulling on him. By the time i shut down at 130 I had about a car lead on him. I was really impressed on how my car performed and the guy gave me a thumbs up. My first really good kill with my car.

doesnt sound like a stock M3 either, with those #'s (assuming your powerband is decent, and good gearing) you should destroy a stock M3 fairly easy.

was this a red m3 with the big BBS 19's-20's?

**SiPimpin** · 11-25-2005, 06:56 PM

It was red but as far as rims goes they looked stock. I didn't ask what mods he had.

**MR. 200SX** · 11-25-2005, 11:31 PM

Are you pushing 298WHP or do you assume? What's your torque? HP don't mean anything.

**SiPimpin** · 11-26-2005, 01:06 AM

here's a dyno graph give or take i'm very close to 300whp.

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...ZkMzF5NTQx.jpg

**MR. 200SX** · 11-26-2005, 09:13 AM

Heh nice A/F line. I'm sure that M3 was stock and here is why.

333 hp @ 7900 rpm
262 ft-lbs @ 4900 rpm

While SIpimpin is making

298WHP@8000rpms
201TQ@6800 rpms

Assuming the M3 is making 280-285WHP and 240-225TQ and both cars with no xtra weight in them I can see the civic pulling 1 1/2 cars on the M3.

Edit: What psi are you running??

**SiPimpin** · 11-26-2005, 11:38 AM

I'm running at 17.2lbs because of an ineffecient turbo due to the need of a rebuilt. But for now i'm running this setup till i have enough money for a Garrett GT30R.

**b0ki** · 12-10-2005, 08:03 PM

Wuz up yes it was me my M3 not stock but only intake , Chip and Exhaust ... well making only about 295 WHP ..... any I was with my gir in the car and u where alone and that civic is so light ... compare to my M3 3400 pounds any way i dont remeber u PULLING on me in any gear ???

ALL the time we raced ..... i was in the front. ... but if u making 297 WHP .... that eas some poor preformance for 297 WHP on a SI.

**Ludester** · 12-10-2005, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by SiPimpin

I was comin from my girl's house in Lawrenceville on Thanksgiving night and I see this red 2004-05 M3. I've always wanted to race one of these plus it's one of my favorite cars. It looks stock as i could tell and me i have a mildly built block b16a2 with a garrett t3/t04e pushing around 298whp.

The race:
We did a race from 80-130. I'm in 3rd gear, did 3 honks and were off. He gets the initial jump from the little bit of lag i had. I stopped it pretty quick as through 4th gear i was reeling him in and was side by side with him. 5th gear comes and i'm pulling on him. By the time i shut down at 130 I had about a car lead on him. I was really impressed on how my car performed and the guy gave me a thumbs up. My first really good kill with my car.

Are you Seth? anyways nice kill...

**SiPimpin** · 12-10-2005, 09:15 PM

Haha ur right man it is poor performance, cus my turbo is getting a rebuilt next week. We had one good run and thats what I posted the other ones we werent even beside each other. Good run though, I'm just happy I could take a M3. I haven't ran my car at the track at my current setup. Hopefully will meet again and run from like 60-65 roll. Till next time Peace.

**SiPimpin** · 12-10-2005, 09:17 PM

Yea this Seth whats goin on man?

**Ludester** · 12-10-2005, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by SiPimpin

Yea this Seth whats goin on man?

You know who I am right?

And what are doing racing on the highway? You haven't learn your lesson yet? lol

**Ludester** · 12-10-2005, 09:34 PM

wtf is em1 crew??

**SiPimpin** · 12-10-2005, 09:38 PM

haha this Robert?! I only race occassionally man, we got to roll like the good o'l days. EM1 Crew.. go to Honda-Tech big thread on it in their. It's basically all Si's thats there chassis e.i. EG, EK, EG6..etc.

**Ludester** · 12-10-2005, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by SiPimpin

haha this Robert?! I only race occassionally man, we got to roll like the good o'l days. EM1 Crew.. go to Honda-Tech big thread on it in their. It's basically all Si's thats there chassis e.i. EG, EK, EG6..etc.

Nah!!! hahahaha Who do you know with prelude?

**SiPimpin** · 12-10-2005, 09:59 PM

OH haha my bads, my boy Robert back in the day. Who is this?

**Ludester** · 12-10-2005, 10:10 PM

hmmmmm! Its me dawg Adrian.

**SiPimpin** · 12-10-2005, 10:12 PM

Haha this fool. Now you know how fast I am. Hit me up sometime man. 1

**Ludester** · 12-10-2005, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by SiPimpin

Haha this fool. Now you know how fast I am. Hit me up sometime man. 1

whats wrong with the turbo this time? Don't tell me mainstream is gonna fix it.lol

**Ludester** · 12-10-2005, 10:20 PM

how come your not making 350 like you wanted?

**GGPIS3** · 12-11-2005, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by b0ki

Wuz up yes it was me my M3 not stock but only intake , Chip and Exhaust ... well making only about 295 WHP ..... any I was with my gir in the car and u where alone and that civic is so light ... compare to my M3 3400 pounds any way i dont remeber u PULLING on me in any gear ???

ALL the time we raced ..... i was in the front. ... but if u making 297 WHP .... that eas some poor preformance for 297 WHP on a SI.

according to this statement.... he basically saying you didn't pull or beat anything.... i think he's callin you out. next run, put some money on it

**ct9a gsr** · 12-11-2005, 03:54 PM

I think BestBuy has some sales on miniDV camcorders... everyone who actively participates in the kills sub-forum should pick one up.

**Speedm0(\)key** · 12-11-2005, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by ct9a gsr

I think BestBuy has some sales on miniDV camcorders... everyone who actively participates in the kills sub-forum should pick one up.

w0rd...

bad thing is im always driving solo. and footage from a standby car usually sucks.

**SiPimpin** · 12-11-2005, 08:40 PM

Got a digital cam now and I will get them on vid next time I race.

**KevinT707** · 12-12-2005, 04:56 PM

Yup, videos don't lie

**Vuongy_Dong** · 12-12-2005, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by KevinT707

Yup, videos don't lie

cant wait to catch your cocky ass on video. lol

jk

**Vteckidd** · 12-13-2005, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Ludester

whats wrong with the turbo this time? Don't tell me mainstream is gonna fix it.lol

We dont beleive its a Turbo problem due to the motor has always smoked since day 1 of his build(we didnt build it), and after 1 rebuild on another turbo, the symptoms are the same. I beleive it was improper piston to wall clearance and/or too big of a ring gap.

But we are goign to rebuild the turbo for him first at his request to see if it will fix his "oil consumption" problems.

IMO, a b16 with rods an pistons and a STOCK intake manifold at 10-12psi shouldnt be making over 300whp. Usually 1.8l make that much, not 1.6l. i really hope seth invests in a JG manifold, there is prob a good 20-30whp + gain with less boost in its design

**Ludester** · 12-13-2005, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by vteckidd

We dont beleive its a Turbo problem due to the motor has always smoked since day 1 of his build(we didnt build it), and after 1 rebuild on another turbo, the symptoms are the same. I beleive it was improper piston to wall clearance and/or too big of a ring gap.

But we are goign to rebuild the turbo for him first at his request to see if it will fix his "oil consumption" problems.

IMO, a b16 with rods an pistons and a STOCK intake manifold at 10-12psi shouldnt be making over 300whp. Usually 1.8l make that much, not 1.6l. i really hope seth invests in a JG manifold, there is prob a good 20-30whp + gain with less boost in its design

I understand what your saying. I told that boy not half ass it and do the shit right but he won't listen to anybody.

**SiPimpin** · 12-14-2005, 04:56 AM

Haha, AD your funny. I already plan to upgrade my intake manifold and build the head. Since I changed my oil feed line from a -4 to -3 line i haven't been smoking. Although the turbo is a need for a rebuilt as I already told Charles the details when I pulled it out the week before. 1

**Ludester** · 12-14-2005, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by SiPimpin

Haha, AD your funny. I already plan to upgrade my intake manifold and build the head. Since I changed my oil feed line from a -4 to -3 line i haven't been smoking. Although the turbo is a need for a rebuilt as I already told Charles the details when I pulled it out the week before. 1

Get the shit fixed cause I'm coming for you

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