Callout: SRT4s, All your boost are belong to us your pull is none

[oleblue]

I think it is funny how a man gets beat and there is always an excuss why. No offence but like with the OP's car in this thread, he lost to oleblue and said it was something with the bottle pressure is why he lost and then lost to a camaro and it was the same excuss. If your car was not right then you should not have raced so don't make excusses. I was one of the three in oleblue's car the night he beat you and trust me it could have been way worse(Bus lengths worse), he was just playing with you in his lowest pump gas tune which might have been a little over 300whp. He told me about this thread and the other one in the off-topic section so I had to check it out and after seeing all the shit talk, I can't wait for you two to run again. You just don't know what you are getting your self into.

Blue, hurry up and get the bugs worked out of that thing so this can go down.

lol....What's up man....To broke to do anything to it right now but if you let me get some of that big money you got it will be right again.lol

[oleblue]

I don't see why everyone is so scared if kizdaway. It's a stock motor with a small shot

I'm not scared, mine is just not ready to run at the time. A 125 shot is not small in my book. A 2,100lbs hatch, 230whp all motor and 125 shot on top of that will beat most street cars out there.

[Turbodude06]

I'm not scared, mine is just not ready to run at the time. A 125 shot is not small in my book. A 2,100lbs hatch, 230whp all motor and 125 shot on top of that will beat most street cars out there.

^very true, and does it even weigh that much?

[Vteckidd]

230whp? I heard from reliable people it was a stock k20a2 motor aka 180-190whp. Nitrous is cool but Honda guys run shit systems that have problems, so it kinda negates the whole thing anyway

[oleblue]

^very true, and does it even weigh that much?

Not really sure, i'm just going by one that I seen weighed at the track before. It was a 1992 model and had a turbo gsr swap,gsr dash,rims,body kit,big brake kit and all.

[oleblue]

230whp? I heard from reliable people it was a stock k20a2 motor aka 180-190whp. Nitrous is cool but Honda guys run shit systems that have problems, so it kinda negates the whole thing anyway

Just going by what I was told.

[Vteckidd]

I'd love to see a 230whp graph from a dyno. Only two people have beat that na in 4-5 years chunky and jay.

[oleblue]

I'd love to see a 230whp graph from a dyno. Only two people have beat that na in 4-5 years chunky and jay.

Hey man, were is this Jay guy from? A guy that I know that lives down the road from me that's name is Jay put down like 202whp on Dyno4mance's dyno which would be 230/240whp on a dynojet with a all motor k in a 1996 and up model yellow hatch.

[NoWAyItZTOMmY]

230whp? I heard from reliable people it was a stock k20a2 motor aka 180-190whp. Nitrous is cool but Honda guys run shit systems that have problems, so it kinda negates the whole thing anyway

i heard it was was itr cams, tran, and i forgot

[Vteckidd]

i mean i dont know Kizdaway at all, if he has a 230whp motor thats awesome, if he has a stock motor with ITR cams like ive heard, its a 200whp motor. 200whp motor with 125shot is a FAST CAR, its an easy 11 second 1/4 mile car with the right tires and thats nothing to be shy about.

If i could put a 75 shot on my car i would, but it would blow up so its not worth it to me to do it. K20s can handle it , ITRs cant.

Anyways , i want to run him motor to motor

[Turbodude06]

230whp? I heard from reliable people it was a stock k20a2 motor aka 180-190whp. Nitrous is cool but Honda guys run shit systems that have problems, so it kinda negates the whole thing anyway

its not stock. But i'm not going to tell what exactly is done to it. It should be around 210-220hp, I would say...

[Vteckidd]

doesnt really matter, if it makes 230 or 200 ill now when we race.

[Turbodude06]

doesnt really matter, if it makes 230 or 200 ill now when we race.

That really would be an awsome all motor race.....

[KIZDAWAY]

doesnt really matter, if it makes 230 or 200 ill now when we race.

You wanna run what I got?

Ill run you ANY SPEED, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE, ANY CASH.

[Vteckidd]

Motor to motor I'm ready anytime an I live in kennesaw too

[Moseley]

You and Evan have ZERO real world experience and knowledge.

Dude you have no idea... back in '99 my 84 civic was running 14.2 and was one of the fastest NA hondas around. I've been messing with this shit long enough. I'd never doubt your experience with B series or your rep. I just think your "dyno comparison" for the K swap header was poorly executed. btw the SSR header you compared to isn't even a "stock" K20 swap header for an EG. it was a custom fab for K24 + stage2 cams. Not ideal for that setup.

But to keep on topic... since you came in here you should just run the "stock k20a2 motor aka 180-190whp" and see what's up.

[Vteckidd]

Until you can do one better or take me up on my offer , it's a moot point.

I'm ready when he is

[vancem3m3]

you see the fn picture...your k'd civic equals none....
and oleblue ... you live right down the road heard you got handled by the 300zxtt lol lol lol

[oleblue]

you see the fn picture...your k'd civic equals none....
and oleblue ... you live right down the road heard you got handled buy the 300zxtt lol lol lol

Yep, from a stop. He had his DR's on and just hooked and went. I spun so much that I could not catch him and don't know if I could have if I did not. He said that he was a low 11 second car and it looked like it too.

Vteckidd, That is the 230/240whp all motor k'd hatch that I was talking about that the Jay I know drives.

[Vteckidd]

Ok well kizdaway I hear is Louis or Luis. He has a k20a2 with itr cams and a itr final drive lives around kennesaw. Jay had a 255whp k24 rsx . I don't know who the yellow el above is

[oleblue]

Ok well kizdaway I hear is Louis or Luis. He has a k20a2 with itr cams and a itr final drive lives around kennesaw. Jay had a 255whp k24 rsx . I don't know who the yellow el above is

Ok, nevermind then I thought it might could have been the same guy. Jay's hatch is nice as hell, it has everything swaped out from a true type r into it. I would love to own it.

[Vteckidd]

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Ok, nevermind then I thought it might could have been the same guy. Jay's hatch is nice as hell, it has everything swaped out from a true type r into it. I would love to own it.

even an ITR motor wont make 230whp. Not on Mainstreams Dyno which is what i go by because i have the most experience with it.

Also, you have to remember what gear the "Ks" Dyno in effects power numbers too. 6 Speed throws a lot of stuff out the window and effects the shape of the curve. MOST B series dyno in 3rd gear if they are NA, and 4th for the last run because its as close to the 1:1 everyone talks about.

When you change final drives, gearing, it effects peak numbers and the shape of the curve.

Thats why a TON of H2B cars with relatively NO mods make tons of power. Ive seen STOCK H22s mated to a B16 trans make 205-210whp. Numbers no other REGULAR h22 is even CLOSE to making. Wonder why ..............

btw the SSR header you compared to isn't even a "stock" K20 swap header for an EG. it was a custom fab for K24 + stage2 cams. Not ideal for that setup.

2 things about your statement

1) I find it incredibly hard to believe that SSR made a header with such SHORT primaries and such small Diameter for a "k24" motor. The header evan has is an OFF THE SHELF Tri-Y Header, they may have told him or someone else it was custom, but if it is, how come it matches EVERY OTHER SSR header EVER sold for SWAPPED cars?

Dont believe me? Check out their own site.
http://www.sixsigmaracing.com/k4-2-1Stainless.htm

See where it says at the bottom:

Every header is custom made in house and we have designed our headers for both the K-20 and K-24 engines.

Danny for 90% of his customers only makes 1 header. Ive seen them, ive BOUGHT THEM. Evan doesnt have some custom 1 off piece that was special made for a 2.4L. Its the NORMAL REGULAR K Swap Header SSR has been selling for YEARS.

These photos were taken almost 2 years ago by ME when i worked for Batlground. Notice how my the "replica" header is IDENTICAL to the SSR header. Everything from cylinder pairing, to diameter, to length etc. The ONLY difference is a SLIGHT angle where the header connects to the exhaust making it touch the rear subframe.

You guys can make excuses all you want, but it doesnt change the fact that a TUNED $1000+ header LOST to a $450 header.

And to answer the question, yes , the bigger primaries makes the Skunk2 "Replica" header make more power. Thats obvious when you look at both pictures. The SSR header was designed 3-4 years ago, Skunk2 designed their about a year ago. So obviously they found that bigger primaries performed better on a 2.0l motor than the old SSR design.

If SSR has some fancy new design out now, AWESOME, i could care less, because MY customers are going to pay $1000+ for a header that will BARELY make more power than my header that costs 1/2 as much and is shipping SAME DAY.

2) IF evan has some K24 header, designed for a BIGGER displacement motor, are you telling me that the REGULAR SSR K20 header has even SMALLER primaries? Gimme a break. The only thing that MIGHT have been different is SSR made the K24 header slightly longer because of the deck height differences. But his header is not custom engineered for a K24 like you claim. I have a REAL K20 SSR header at my house we can do comparisons if you want, ill bet you EVERYTHING is the same.

[Vteckidd]

I run a SSR 4-2-1 built for my car and motor with custom 3" mandrel I don't feel like paying $40 to go do three pulls on the dyno just to satisfy some curiosity of mine that isn't really that important.... So Again I am not looking for advice on what to do for my car... I have my car completely setup the way I want it I am just curious as to the differences that others have seen because I don't feel like doing it myself on a dyno.

Also funny how just a few weeks ago Evan was talking about how his header was custom made for his car, not some K24 motor like YOU are claiming Ryan. Wonder whose telling the truth?

http://k20a.org/forum/showpost.php?p...7&postcount=25

Heres the ORIGINAL FOR SALE THREAD where Evan BOUGHT his header
http://k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=40897

Notice what the seller says

SSR 4-2-1 Header for EG/DC with Hybrid-Racing mounts for K20 or K24 in MINT condition. (fits both) Sold to Ejohnson88!

So the header , like i said earlier was made for BOTH motors.

Heres the thread i posted on K20A.org when his car was being built at the shop i worked for.
http://k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=40902

Notice how in post 19 i say how his RCREW header wouldnt work with HYBRID mounts.

Then his RCREW goes up for sale
http://k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=43175


THE ONLY REASON EVAN has a SSR header was because his $700 RCREW wouldnt work. He just happened to come across it on K20A.org being sold for cheap, and he could sell his RCREW for almost the same money.

Stop lying, the header is matched/built for his car.

GAME SET MATCH VTECKIDD

[112480]

I'd love to see a 230whp graph from a dyno. Only two people have beat that na in 4-5 years chunky and jay.

soon to b three

[112480]

You wanna run what I got?

Ill run you ANY SPEED, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE, ANY CASH.

hey KIZDAWAY, when i'm ready will u race me on ur bottle vs my all-motor?

[112480]

^very true, and does it even weigh that much?

Well my 92 Vx Hatch weighed 2020 with my d-series turbo setup WITHOUT ANY carbon fiber pieces. So hopefully the K swap wont b that much more added BUT i AM useing C.F parts and other weight reduction, so looking at to get my car in the 1900lbs range. 1985-1990lbs to b more exact.

[SmackedInATL]

Thread has run its course, ended in Honda failure.