this is the most random thread...what is up with all these people bashing each other anyways...cars are a passion i think some people to remember yea a car might be slower but hell it doesnt mean that,that owner doesnt have as much passion as you or didn't put his own effort into it... now for those people that get all their work done a shops and never try anything themselfs...they just wont get as much satisfaction as if they were to do it themselfs,but they still have some passion.im just tired of all this ignorance, i mean hell why is everyone so cocky. oh well just how one minded people are i guess...well everyone can be just how often you are