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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedM0nkey
    gee.. i would hope a car that expensive.. and boosted wouild beat his 240.. if not there's a problem.


    btw, why do you domestic guys jock each others nuts in every post?.. just wondeirng, i mean.. we are all car enthusiasts here.. i dont see it as domestic vs. import at all.. so why dont you guys drop the big circle jerk? :jerkit:
    Because if you are any kind of a car enthusiast you know there is no comparison to a 240 and a Viper. It is like comparing a filet mignon to chop steak. BTW, it is no circle jerking. It is complimenting someone's car. But we all shit talk each other. Just like you do. I know you shit talk a lot, too. If you can't take it then you shouldn't make the post in the first place. This forum gives everyone a chance to say something about it, no matter if it is serious or joking around. And we respond to each other because we know each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    Because if you are any kind of a car enthusiast you know there is no comparison to a 240 and a Viper. It is like comparing a filet mignon to chop steak. BTW, it is no circle jerking. It is complimenting someone's car. But we all shit talk each other. Just like you do. I know you shit talk a lot, too. If you can't take it then you shouldn't make the post in the first place. This forum gives everyone a chance to say something about it, no matter if it is serious or joking around. And we respond to each other because we know each other.

    There are about a very small handful of actual car enthusiasts. The rest are just internet and parking lot racers.

    give the man his props.. his chop steak waxed the mignon. dont diss the car in anyway. maybe it wont take your viper friend.. but it'll take YOU.

    real car enthusiast dont talk down on cars the way i've seen some of you guys do it. specially this particular 240 that is impressively fast for the amount of power it puts down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedM0nkey
    give the man his props.. his chop steak waxed the mignon. dont diss the car in anyway. maybe it wont take your viper friend.. but it'll take YOU.

    real car enthusiast dont talk down on cars the way i've seen some of you guys do it. specially this particular 240 that is impressively fast for the amount of power it puts down.
    I admit he may have beaten the Viper, although I didn't watch the video. But it's been said by others that the only reason was because the guy couldn't drive. It must be easy to beat faster cars when they have shitty drivers. Everyone beat the black 04 Viper around Pleasant hill because the guy is half retarted. You don't even know what kind of car I have and especially what's done to it. I don't see that 240 running in the 10's. So, until he runs in the 10's, I doubt he'd have a chance against my car.

    And maybe you haven't noticed when most of these domestic guys post something negative about imports it is about ricers or in a joke. And wasn't Marshall's 240 around 100 more hp than his? So if there has been a significantly more faster one, why should this one impress me so much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    I admit he may have beaten the Viper, although I didn't watch the video. But it's been said by others that the only reason was because the guy couldn't drive. It must be easy to beat faster cars when they have shitty drivers. Everyone beat the black 04 Viper around Pleasant hill because the guy is half retarted. You don't even know what kind of car I have and especially what's done to it. I don't see that 240 running in the 10's. So, until he runs in the 10's, I doubt he'd have a chance against my car.

    And maybe you haven't noticed when most of these domestic guys post something negative about imports it is about ricers or in a joke. And wasn't Marshall's 240 around 100 more hp than his? So if there has been a significantly more faster one, why should this one impress me so much?
    you cant label the guy a shitty driver all around, he didnt screw up all the time.. like most of you v8 and v10 guys, he thought he was unbeatable, got cocky.. and got served. and some of the faster guys on the boards all got a piece.. nothing wrong with that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedM0nkey
    you cant label the guy a shitty driver all around, he didnt screw up all the time.. like most of you v8 and v10 guys, he thought he was unbeatable, got cocky.. and got served. and some of the faster guys on the boards all got a piece.. nothing wrong with that.
    I can and will label him a shitty driver until he learns how to drive right. Not knowing how to drive includes taking forever to shift, not knowing which gear to start in, etc. I don't believe any of us v8 and v10 guys on IA think we are unbeatable. Just a little more in the reality of how fast or slow are cars actually are. Yes, some in the world think they are unbeatable. But there is a difference between knowing you will beat a certain car and thinking you will beat everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    You're right. But the funny thing is that no one on IA can beat him that I know of. Except these mystical 9 second 1800 lb hatch Civics that no one ever sees. Or maybe that one Supra in some northern state with $xxx,xxx in it. But I know v10sloboy's Viper would drag your car down the road. It would go by you so fast it would suck the front end off your 240.
    I dont think there is anything mystical about the civics because I have personally seen them run along with most of the IA crowd that goes to the track.

    Why do you compare a xxx,xxx supra to your friends viper like the amount of money spent makes it an unfair comparison, if so than your friend has well over 100k in is viper and I have a grand total of 7k including the price of the car and what used to be a paintjob. That means I can build like 13 viperslayer to the 1 that might be able to run me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    Because if you are any kind of a car enthusiast you know there is no comparison to a 240 and a Viper. It is like comparing a filet mignon to chop steak. BTW, it is no circle jerking. It is complimenting someone's car. But we all shit talk each other. Just like you do. I know you shit talk a lot, too. If you can't take it then you shouldn't make the post in the first place. This forum gives everyone a chance to say something about it, no matter if it is serious or joking around. And we respond to each other because we know each other.

    There are about a very small handful of actual car enthusiasts on IA. The rest are just internet and parking lot racers.

    You are right, there is no camparison to a 240 and a viper. I would much rather spend 10k on building a car that will out run and out handle a viper rather than break the bank trying to afford a car because of the name of a car and the stares that you get while driving it. Just like the viper owner I beat, he even told us that he still has the dealer tags on it because he cant or doesnt want to pay taxes on the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    I admit he may have beaten the Viper, although I didn't watch the video. But it's been said by others that the only reason was because the guy couldn't drive. It must be easy to beat faster cars when they have shitty drivers. Everyone beat the black 04 Viper around Pleasant hill because the guy is half retarted. You don't even know what kind of car I have and especially what's done to it. I don't see that 240 running in the 10's. So, until he runs in the 10's, I doubt he'd have a chance against my car.

    And maybe you haven't noticed when most of these domestic guys post something negative about imports it is about ricers or in a joke. And wasn't Marshall's 240 around 100 more hp than his? So if there has been a significantly more faster one, why should this one impress me so much?
    Bad druver or not, I doubt a good driver a good driver could make up the car lenghts that i put on him. I do know what car you drive, I blue T/A right with tags like your screen name. Let me guess, when I spanked that boosted ws6 it was because of driver error because nobody can beat a T/A unless u are driving a T/A. I know your car is fast but I am calling bs unless you can show slips for a 10sec pass. And i was waiting for you to bring marshalls name up since every time i see him I see you. His car was putting down 100 more than me but on my old setup. I have not been out for a while because of a different setup i am going with, and i dont expect to see 300s again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyteryder
    You are right, there is no camparison to a 240 and a viper. I would much rather spend 10k on building a car that will out run and out handle a viper rather than break the bank trying to afford a car because of the name of a car and the stares that you get while driving it. Just like the viper owner I beat, he even told us that he still has the dealer tags on it because he cant or doesnt want to pay taxes on the car.
    That is your personal choice. But a Viper is a completely different car. Who says he bought the car for the looks he gets? It is possible he perfers a quick n/a car from the factory instead of putting thousands into it just to get it running decent. Then on top of that decided to add even more. When I said it would "suck the front end off your car" it was a joke. Even though he would, it was meant to be a joke and trash talk a little. What does paying taxes have to do with him being a bad driver? You won because he sucked, horribly. No reason to get upset it is a better car stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    That is your personal choice. But a Viper is a completely different car. Who says he bought the car for the looks he gets? It is possible he perfers a quick n/a car from the factory instead of putting thousands into it just to get it running decent.
    He already spent thousands, 10's of thousands. If that is the car he wants then so be it. I would prefer to build minimum 6 cars that would walk that one, rather than spend that much money on one item, but that is just me. Didn't any of you learn, never put all your eggs in one basket????

    As for just getting it running "descent" as you put it. 350whp on a 2500lb chassis= 11.20's. How do I know?????? I have the time slip to prove it from over a year ago when I was running that whp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyteryder
    Bad druver or not, I doubt a good driver a good driver could make up the car lenghts that i put on him. I do know what car you drive, I blue T/A right with tags like your screen name. Let me guess, when I spanked that boosted ws6 it was because of driver error because nobody can beat a T/A unless u are driving a T/A. I know your car is fast but I am calling bs unless you can show slips for a 10sec pass. And i was waiting for you to bring marshalls name up since every time i see him I see you. His car was putting down 100 more than me but on my old setup. I have not been out for a while because of a different setup i am going with, and i dont expect to see 300s again.
    Actually, a good driver could make all the difference. You may know what car I drive but I doubt that Speedmoney guy does. That is the point I was making. I'm sure there are a few others who know what I drive, too. I think you may have talked to Marshall for less than a minute when we were out with him. But I never saw your car. And you can't even compare that sorry excuse for a turbo WS6. He had that awesome STS rear mounted turbo system that couldn't stop leaking oil. That car would have been extremly lucky to brake 400 rwhp. Hope you didn't believe those hp numbers he was yelling out. You really aren't in a place to call bs. Just because you may have seen my car in a parking lot doesn't mean you know what's done to it. I never let you look inside at the interior much less under the hood. But the flames do add an extra 100-150 at the wheels. I don't carry around my dyno sheets or timeslips in my car in case some import guy is calling bs. I couldn't care less what you think. I know what I have and what has been proven to me. We were with Marshall because we were friends, jackass. Friends hang out together. But he wasn't the only one saying his was faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silviadriftr
    He already spent thousands, 10's of thousands. If that is the car he wants then so be it. I would prefer to build minimum 6 cars that would walk that one, rather than spend that much money on one item, but that is just me. Didn't any of you learn, never put all your eggs in one basket????

    As for just getting it running "descent" as you put it. 350whp on a 2500lb chassis= 11.20's. How do I know?????? I have the time slip to prove it from over a year ago when I was running that whp.
    Good for you. I'm sure I could come up with an 8 second time slip. I really don't care. A stock Viper will run.. what was it? I believe 12.2 and below STOCK depending on which year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    Good for you. I'm sure I could come up with an 8 second time slip. I really don't care. A stock Viper will run.. what was it? I believe 12.2 and below STOCK depending on which year.
    At least I am referring to times I have acually ran not someone elses, captain save a ho!!! 8 sec in the 1/8th??? In a street car???

    Oh, and the point of putting the 11.20 time in there was to give you a reference of hp/wgt ratio and the times the 240's are capable of. Not to say that is was extremely fast or anything.
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    can somebody breif me on what the point of this thread is? Ive read this one page and luv2spd sounds like hes all on some dudes balls. Viper, schmiper . ill prolly be kicking vipers asses in my civic pretty soon too, big deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTEC
    can somebody breif me on what the point of this thread is? Ive read this one page and luv2spd sounds like hes all on some dudes balls. Viper, schmiper . ill prolly be kicking vipers asses in my civic pretty soon too, big deal.

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    honesly.. if you're going to talk fillet mignon.. american cars dont belong in the conversation. if you're going to include one.. it'd only be the corvette. thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    Actually, a good driver could make all the difference. You may know what car I drive but I doubt that Speedmoney guy does. That is the point I was making. I'm sure there are a few others who know what I drive, too. I think you may have talked to Marshall for less than a minute when we were out with him. But I never saw your car. And you can't even compare that sorry excuse for a turbo WS6. He had that awesome STS rear mounted turbo system that couldn't stop leaking oil. That car would have been extremly lucky to brake 400 rwhp. Hope you didn't believe those hp numbers he was yelling out. You really aren't in a place to call bs. Just because you may have seen my car in a parking lot doesn't mean you know what's done to it. I never let you look inside at the interior much less under the hood. But the flames do add an extra 100-150 at the wheels. I don't carry around my dyno sheets or timeslips in my car in case some import guy is calling bs. I couldn't care less what you think. I know what I have and what has been proven to me. We were with Marshall because we were friends, jackass. Friends hang out together. But he wasn't the only one saying his was faster.
    he beat a turbo WS6.. end of story.

    you also drive a turbo t/a i beleive.. you're the guy i met when i wanted to run you in the STi in what you say is your gf's car.. and you said yeah from a dig ( you were on street tires) and i laughed.. and asked if you knew what an STi was.. and i told you about AWD.. and then you said roll.. and then you changed your mind and didnt run
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    Good for you. I'm sure I could come up with an 8 second time slip. I really don't care. A stock Viper will run.. what was it? I believe 12.2 and below STOCK depending on which year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silviadriftr
    He already spent thousands, 10's of thousands. If that is the car he wants then so be it. I would prefer to build minimum 6 cars that would walk that one, rather than spend that much money on one item, but that is just me. Didn't any of you learn, never put all your eggs in one basket????

    As for just getting it running "descent" as you put it. 350whp on a 2500lb chassis= 11.20's. How do I know?????? I have the time slip to prove it from over a year ago when I was running that whp.
    You wouldn't spend it because your income can't support it. But I bet if you could you would. All of you "import guys" say that crap. "I would never spend that on a car." Whatever you have to tell yourself to make yourself feel like less of a broke ass.

    Not to mention... full weight T/A = 11.20 with no problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BTEC
    can somebody breif me on what the point of this thread is? Ive read this one page and luv2spd sounds like hes all on some dudes balls. Viper, schmiper . ill prolly be kicking vipers asses in my civic pretty soon too, big deal.
    Not on some dude's balls. Just think some people need to be a bit more realistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    You wouldn't spend it because your income can't support it. But I bet if you could you would. All of you "import guys" say that crap. "I would never spend that on a car." Whatever you have to tell yourself to make yourself feel like less of a broke ass.

    Not to mention... full weight T/A = 11.20 with no problem.

    hey.. look at the cars on the sig---V i could have. but didn't. i have respect cars no matter where they were built. but you cant beat japanese reliability and style. i guess what im saying is... american muscle is ribeye.. great taste and lots of meat for your money.. but not fillet mignon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    You wouldn't spend it because your income can't support it. But I bet if you could you would. All of you "import guys" say that crap. "I would never spend that on a car." Whatever you have to tell yourself to make yourself feel like less of a broke ass.

    Not to mention... full weight T/A = 11.20 with no problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyteryder
    I dont think there is anything mystical about the civics because I have personally seen them run along with most of the IA crowd that goes to the track.

    Why do you compare a xxx,xxx supra to your friends viper like the amount of money spent makes it an unfair comparison, if so than your friend has well over 100k in is viper and I have a grand total of 7k including the price of the car and what used to be a paintjob. That means I can build like 13 viperslayer to the 1 that might be able to run me.

    The black viper has less in it than you would pay for a stock c6 corvette.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedM0nkey
    he beat a turbo WS6.. end of story.

    you also drive a turbo t/a i beleive.. you're the guy i met when i wanted to run you in the STi in what you say is your gf's car.. and you said yeah from a dig ( you were on street tires) and i laughed.. and asked if you knew what an STi was.. and i told you about AWD.. and then you said roll.. and then you changed your mind and didnt run
    If you knew any about v8's and turbos you'd realize how shitty of a system that is. You can get more power with bolt ons. That is the point. You can't brag about beating that car. It's like saying you beat that black Viper around Pleasant Hill. Who cares because so did every one else. End of story.

    No, I don't drive a turbo car. If you are the guy that asked to race after I just got back from running on the hwy, then yes I turned you down. Because on the way back we passed 2-3 cops. I don't feel like getting pulled over because of racing. If it was you, I told you I would race you the next weekend. And I was out the next weekend. And I'm pretty sure this came up before, you can't expect me to know who you are. There are about 50 million STi's running around. And I was ok for both. But you kept on about the AWD thing. And I agreed from a roll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silviadriftr
    You don't know me and especially what I can afford and can't. Keep driving your girlfriends car!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by silviadriftr
    You don't know me and especially what I can afford and can't. Keep driving your girlfriends car!!!!
    I never said I did know you. I just know that if you have the money to support it and still live comfortably you wouldn't be riding around in a 240. And the car belongs to me. Do you want me to show you the registration along with my dyno sheet, time slip from the track, receipts, drivers license, medical records, birth certificate... :jerkit:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    Not on some dude's balls. Just think some people need to be a bit more realistic.
    so u dnt even have a viper but ur like viper this and viper that. sounds like testicle attention to me.

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    I don't have a Viper. I personally would rather have a Corvette. But I think some of you need to do a little research before you start claiming you beat this and that by x amount of car lengths and say it is not because of driver error.
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    Whenever you get your trans fixed again and would like to see what a 10 second car is like let me know. Then we can both see an even faster turbo T/A push us both up the road. You may remember the tag - SMOKENU. You'll get a good look at it as that is all you will be seeing.
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    Its so funny how most of you put the "domestics" in one class and think they are all the same. I have owned a prelude, two accords. I almost bought a supra but could not find a blk on blk hardtop. So i bought a corvette. I might have a viper now but i still own 2 imports. A 94 bmw mtec one of 150 ever made. And one of the best all around compacts ever produced. I have tons of respect for imports but its funny because "he drives a viper so he thinks he can beat anybody." When you own a fast car its a lose lose situation. If you beat someone its always "well he spent $$$$$$ on his car it should beat me its a freakin viper....... If you get beat its hahahahah you spent all that money and got beat by a civic.
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    Oh, and 10 seconds is actually 10 seconds. Not the "Yay! I got in the 11's! I ran 11.999!" crap some of you pull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smackdown
    Its so funny how most of you put the "domestics" in one class and think they are all the same. I have owned a prelude, two accords. I almost bought a supra but could not find a blk on blk hardtop. So i bought a corvette. I might have a viper now but i still own 2 imports. A 94 bmw mtec one of 150 ever made. And one of the best all around compacts ever produced. I have tons of respect for imports but its funny because "he drives a viper so he thinks he can beat anybody." When you own a fast car its a lose lose situation. If you beat someone its always "well he spent $$$$$$ on his car it should beat me its a freakin viper....... If you get beat its hahahahah you spent all that money and got beat by a civic.
    Yep, because all domestics are cocky and slow. If they're not slow they are stuck up, rich jerks. :jerkit:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    I don't have a Viper. I personally would rather have a Corvette. But I think some of you need to do a little research before you start claiming you beat this and that by x amount of car lengths and say it is not because of driver error.
    I dnt gauge how much i beat ppl by on the street. I want times to prove it. If i beat u on the streats ill just say i beat u or i freaking killed u. y r u getting so mad about how much somebody say they beat a viper by and it wasnt u driving the viper and u even have one. Do u protest in thr other thread like civic vs evo or whatever? i doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BTEC
    I dnt gauge how much i beat ppl by on the street. I want times to prove it. If i beat u on the streats ill just say i beat u or i freaking killed u. y r u getting so mad about how much somebody say they beat a viper by and it wasnt u driving the viper and u even have one. Do u protest in thr other thread like civic vs evo or whatever? i doubt it.
    Not mad just, once again, think some of you need to be a bit more realistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    Not mad just, once again, think some of you need to be a bit more realistic.
    what is YOUR car? out of curiosity

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    Quote Originally Posted by smackdown
    Its so funny how most of you put the "domestics" in one class and think they are all the same.
    thats because most domestics generalize imports. we all ahve aluminum wings and stickers. its like car racism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    I never said I did know you. I just know that if you have the money to support it and still live comfortably you wouldn't be riding around in a 240. And the car belongs to me. Do you want me to show you the registration along with my dyno sheet, time slip from the track, receipts, drivers license, medical records, birth certificate... :jerkit:
    First of all, I own 2 different other 240's and 2 other cars that are not projects. The picture of the car above is not a 240 it is a true rhd silvia I purchased out of Okinowa, Japan. Second of all, as I said before I am not the type of person to put all my eggs in one basket, which means I don't sink all my money into one vehicle( try comprehending what you read). 3rd- as I said before i was posting the time to give you a basis for hp/wgt ratio of a s13 chassis not to try to say anything about how fast the car was or used to be. I could care less about your how you work your finances or what type of hp you had when you dynoed the car and what time slips you can get from your buddies..... try again...
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    I've already said it is a T/A.
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    Oui, qu'est-que c'est vos voiture?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    I admit he may have beaten the Viper, although I didn't watch the video. But it's been said by others that the only reason was because the guy couldn't drive. It must be easy to beat faster cars when they have shitty drivers. Everyone beat the black 04 Viper around Pleasant hill because the guy is half retarted. You don't even know what kind of car I have and especially what's done to it. I don't see that 240 running in the 10's. So, until he runs in the 10's, I doubt he'd have a chance against my car.

    And maybe you haven't noticed when most of these domestic guys post something negative about imports it is about ricers or in a joke. And wasn't Marshall's 240 around 100 more hp than his? So if there has been a significantly more faster one, why should this one impress me so much?

    so your car runs in the 10s now? The blue T/A? I wouldn't be so confident about running a nicely built 240 especially in a heavy ass F-body.

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