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    Relevance is all these different cars were getting brought up. And I was saying that just because you see it with your own eyes doesn't mean it's fast.
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    ^??? so if i see a car run 10s it doesnt mean its fast? so ifi see a car make 531whp in 2000lb chassis doesnt mean its fast? waht does it mean then? it runs 16s and is super slow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    Great. I'm glad you can have more than one car. I have four others. One daily driver and three others I have just because I wanted them. If you can afford a Viper and still live comfortably I doubt that would be the only car you have..
    I am not trying to get in a pissing contest over how many cars I or anyone else have. You said if I had the means to buy one then I would have it and not a cfew 240's. Since you don't know me as we have already established I was letting you know that I have multiple cars and if I wanted to sell all of them to get a vette or a viper that would be an option. I am by no means rich but I can do what I like to do, which is build import cars. I CHOOSE NOT TO HAVE A DOMESTIC( it is a choice).


    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    I did understand what you put but you didn't understand me. And I posted that full weight T/A = 11.20s with no problem to show that it is a lot harder for an import to get there than it is a domestic.
    N/A??? If not how much money you put out for a turbo kit for that car and how about the standalone or program you are running. You talk about spending thousands, damn!!!!!!...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PSINXS
    ^??? so if i see a car run 10s it doesnt mean its fast? so ifi see a car make 531whp in 2000lb chassis doesnt mean its fast? waht does it mean then? it runs 16s and is super slow?
    I never said that. I said just because you meet someone in person and they tell you something or you see a bigger turbo doesn't mean it is fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silviadriftr
    I CHOOSE NOT TO HAVE A DOMESTIC( it is a choice).
    Great. Do what you can. You chose an import. I chose a domestic. They are both there for a reason. Not everyone will like or prefer the same thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by silviadriftr
    N/A??? If not how much money you put out for a turbo kit for that car and how about the standalone or program you are running. You talk about spending thousands, damn!!!!!!...
    It is going to take a lot more money to make an import that fast than it is to make a v8.
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    its not just that i met him n i say oh he's fast. i've seen proof of what he does make and i saw the setup to back those numbers. so to me that means it is fast. the two add up.

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    Dude, you're beating a dead horse. There are imports that are faster than some domestics. But turbo for turbo the domestic will always be faster. Anyway, the original point was that I don't believe the specific 240 this thread is about beat that Viper just because he car is that much faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd

    It is going to take a lot more money to make an import that fast than it is to make a v8.
    depending on which import. honestly 240s are really cheap to make fast. lets see buy a 240 for 2k.(rolling chassis can be had for 700s) swap in a sr for say 5k since if u cant do it yourself. thats 7k for a car that can run 13s. high ass 13s with a good driver but a 13 nonetheless. a few bolt ons (another 2k) and u got a high 12. 9k to run 12s. trans am WS6 costs way more than 9k for low 13s.

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    Ok, without the price of the car. You can get a much bigger and more hp motor for 5 grand. You can get a 408 short block for less than that. Spend another 2-2300 on a good set of heads and you have a pretty quick car. Definetly not 13s. A stock T/A will run 13's and high 12's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    But turbo for turbo the domestic will always be faster.
    stil not true. this can go on forever. turbo importsin 6s n u got turbo domestics probably running similar times before u get into the top fuel genre. it will always vary between the two. domestics will not always be faster neither will i mports. neither is greater than each other. lets call em equals and quit. because a civic can run the same times a T/A can run so nobody wins. and who cares who spent what on it to make it do it. fact is taht it it did it.

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    It really just depends on how you look at it. Because you can get a T/A for 9k that will run 13s. It may be a little older and high milage but it would more than likely still do it stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    Ok, without the price of the car. You can get a much bigger and more hp motor for 5 grand. You can get a 408 short block for less than that. Spend another 2-2300 on a good set of heads and you have a pretty quick car. Definetly not 13s. A stock T/A will run 13's and high 12's.
    jsut saying that what u spend intially on the car itself we have already spent less and running similar times. but this arguement has been going over on every board no the internet. its useless. we all have our opinons.

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    Sounds good, man. You like imports and I like domestics. End of story.
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    But still doesn't change about this guys 240 and that viper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WINDSOR
    no i'm talking about the hp. It should take less then 450 rwhp to put a 2500 lb car in the 10s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    It is going to take a lot more money to make an import that fast than it is to make a v8.
    You alrerady have your big bucks in the car just buying it much less modding it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    But still doesn't change about this guys 240 and that viper.
    shoudl the viper have lost? I dont know. did he lose? yep. but shit happens. i am anxious to see after the car is back running how it will fare with a viper that isnt retarded. i am sure it will hold its own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSINXS
    shoudl the viper have lost? I dont know. did he lose? yep. but shit happens. i am anxious to see after the car is back running how it will fare with a viper that isnt retarded. i am sure it will hold its own.
    I don't know what this guy's 240 ran. And I'm not saying the Viper should've won. But not have lost by 3-5 cars. That sounds like pure driver. If his car is truely fast, maybe 1-2 cars sounds a little more believable. Vipers aren't slow from the factory. Maybe I'm wrong, but maybe I'm right. We won't know until he races one that has a good driver. That is just my opinion.
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    ^agreed. i just wanna see when nyteryder returns.

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    Well... thanks everyone for the trash talking. All in good fun. Merry Christmas. Enjoy your cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    Well... thanks everyone for the trash talking. All in good fun. Merry Christmas. Enjoy your cars.
    You too. Thanks for keeping me occupied... this day sure is going by fast, damn!!!!
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    domestics rule.. and will always rule here in the US. there are a shit load of fucking hicks here.. that want a white trash ferrari
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    I may be here late... but...

    I have a thousand videos of Luv2Spd BARELY beating my buddy's 100% STOCK SRT-4 w/ 3 ppl in the car. Not trying to start any shit... but I keep seeing LuvSpd mentioning how her T/A runs 10's, 9's, 8's, negative 5's, etc... but I think otherwise. Oh, btw, I zoomed into your license plate in the videos and it does say "LUV2SPD" just to prove it was you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ct9a gsr
    I may be here late... but...

    I have a thousand videos of Luv2Spd BARELY beating my buddy's 100% STOCK SRT-4 w/ 3 ppl in the car. Not trying to start any shit... but I keep seeing LuvSpd mentioning how her T/A runs 10's, 9's, 8's, negative 5's, etc... but I think otherwise. Oh, btw, I zoomed into your license plate in the videos and it does say "LUV2SPD" just to prove it was you.


    Whoever turned this thread into your typical 15yr olds at Kroger waiting for their mom's to finish grocery shopping while reading SuperStreet argueing about magazine times type of arguement... grow up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSINXS
    stil not true. this can go on forever. turbo importsin 6s n u got turbo domestics probably running similar times before u get into the top fuel genre. it will always vary between the two. domestics will not always be faster neither will i mports. neither is greater than each other. lets call em equals and quit. because a civic can run the same times a T/A can run so nobody wins. and who cares who spent what on it to make it do it. fact is taht it it did it.
    yeah,but they make way more power then any turbo import and they all run just one power adder and usually weigh over 3,000 lbs. Tim lynchs car runs 6.86@210 with boost only and 3100 lbs. Brad Brand made 2500 hp with just 12 psi of boost on his 700 cube motor.

    i like both imports and domestics but i got to ask if imports are running similar times why don't they run in the world street nationals in orlando? Anyone can enter buts its always just domestic cars? Maybe its the one power adder deal that scares them off since the motors are so small to compete they need to spray on top of boost. Just think if the domestic guys were to spray on top of just running boost.

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    if they sprayed they would go back in time. its agianst the laws of nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSINXS
    if they sprayed they would go back in time. its agianst the laws of nature.
    lmao! the flux capacitor just kicked in baby!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ct9a gsr
    I may be here late... but...

    I have a thousand videos of Luv2Spd BARELY beating my buddy's 100% STOCK SRT-4 w/ 3 ppl in the car. Not trying to start any shit... but I keep seeing LuvSpd mentioning how her T/A runs 10's, 9's, 8's, negative 5's, etc... but I think otherwise. Oh, btw, I zoomed into your license plate in the videos and it does say "LUV2SPD" just to prove it was you.
    Hmm... I distictly remember having to keep slowing down because I couldn't tell if he was going or not, with a sticking clutch. When did I just barely beat him? That was a joke race. I never said anything about my car running 9 seconds. And coming from someone who runs 12s, you shouldn't even be posting right now. You have one video. Not thousands. I haven't raced my car a lot around imports. He said it had an upgraded turbo, not stock. Post the videos. All of them. Not just when he goes flying past me after I already slowed down. I even asked you to see the video and you never sent it to me.

    If you are talking about when I hit the brakes and he went flying past, then yeah he beat me. You truly are a ricer. You lose by about 7 cars and are just barely beat. But you beat someone by half a car that is just dominating and pulling. We all know your car is slow that is why you don't ever want to race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WINDSOR
    yeah,but they make way more power then any turbo import and they all run just one power adder and usually weigh over 3,000 lbs. Tim lynchs car runs 6.86@210 with boost only and 3100 lbs. Brad Brand made 2500 hp with just 12 psi of boost on his 700 cube motor.

    Surely you are not referring to his no radiator, twin turbo's mounted in the front grill, race car(not streetable) car
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    wow, this whole thread is people comparing a bunch of irrelevant shit.

    the video was posted, the 240 won the race. was it due to driver error or is the 240 just faster on the highway? this whole argument proves nothing toward either reason. it's still very likely that the 240 vs a stock viper with a good driver could win. marshall's 240 ran with a Z06 making similar power to my car (which is also right where nyteryder's car was at the time of this run). when marshall and i went at it on the highway he was barely creeping on me in the Z06 with bolt-ons (an uphill run i might add).

    mythbusters say it's plausible and people should quit arguing this shit to death, it won't change the outcome .

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    Quote Originally Posted by silviadriftr
    Surely you are not referring to his no radiator, twin turbo's mounted in the front grill, race car(not streetable) car
    i am and don't call my shirley! haha i'm sure no 6 second 1/4 mile import is a street car either and thats what we were talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    Hmm... I distictly remember having to keep slowing down because I couldn't tell if he was going or not, with a sticking clutch. When did I just barely beat him? That was a joke race. I never said anything about my car running 9 seconds. And coming from someone who runs 12s, you shouldn't even be posting right now. You have one video. Not thousands. I haven't raced my car a lot around imports. He said it had an upgraded turbo, not stock. Post the videos. All of them. Not just when he goes flying past me after I already slowed down. I even asked you to see the video and you never sent it to me.

    If you are talking about when I hit the brakes and he went flying past, then yeah he beat me. You truly are a ricer. You lose by about 7 cars and are just barely beat. But you beat someone by half a car that is just dominating and pulling. We all know your car is slow that is why you don't ever want to race.

    you arent so good at driving yourself to be calling others "shitty drivers".. you beat a 300zx TT with only boost controller by a fender.

    whos doing the shit talking.. the girl or the guy?.. because the girl has no room to talk
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedM0nkey
    you arent so good at driving yourself to be calling others "shitty drivers".. you beat a 300zx TT with only boost controller by a fender.

    whos doing the shit talking.. the girl or the guy?.. because the girl has no room to talk
    Is that the night you asked me to race, too? You call that a race? When a bunch of imports followed and got in the way. Were you there? If so, you remember when we "raced" through about half a gear. All of the imports kept getting up in front of us when we slowed down. It wasn't a fender. Do you remember the traffic and the 18 wheeler riding his ass? Do you have the video for it? If so, post it. So we can all get on the same page of that awesome "race". If not, we can do it again.

    This is the girl. The one driving the car. Maybe you should teach your friend how to race and leave everyone else behind. And as for the guy, I don't think any of you should start running you mouth about him.

    Tell you what, when you both can leave the other 5 cars behind we can run. Until then, you have no room to talk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    Is that the night you asked me to race, too? You call that a race? When a bunch of imports followed and got in the way. Were you there? If so, you remember when we "raced" through about half a gear. All of the imports kept getting up in front of us when we slowed down. It wasn't a fender. Do you remember the traffic and the 18 wheeler riding his ass? Do you have the video for it? If so, post it. So we can all get on the same page of that awesome "race". If not, we can do it again.

    This is the girl. The one driving the car. Maybe you should teach your friend how to race and leave everyone else behind. And as for the guy, I don't think any of you should start running you mouth about him.

    Tell you what, when you both can leave the other 5 cars behind we can run. Until then, you have no room to talk.
    i was up ahead lookin out for bacon, man you sure do stretch things.. you described 285 @ 5:00 traffic. :jerkit:

    it was a saturday night, 11:30-12midnight time

    people at those meets follow everyone, its retarded, but.. what am i gonna do?.. nothing.. you had some room to mess around in, and your "fast" car put a fender on a stock 13 yr old 300zx

    what guy should we not start running our mouths over?.. im confused
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedM0nkey
    i was up ahead lookin out for bacon, man you sure do stretch things.. you described 285 @ 5:00 traffic. :jerkit:

    it was a saturday night, 11:30-12midnight time
    Try again. It was not that late yet. That hadn't even kicked everyone out of the parking lot. If you were up ahead then you were one of the dumbasses that kept getting in the way. Not stretching anything. I didn't say it was 5pm traffic but there were too many people to get in a good run. Especially with all of you guys following. Like I said, leave your little import gang behind and we can run them again.

    The only import races any of the people on IA have seen:
    This with the 300zx TT
    Some turbo hatch Civic
    And the neon

    Like I said, if you have any videos of these post them. And we can see who is stretching what. How would you even know who beat who if you didn't even see it? Just by what he told you. :jerkit:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    Try again. It was not that late yet. That hadn't even kicked everyone out of the parking lot. If you were up ahead then you were one of the dumbasses that kept getting in the way. Not stretching anything. I didn't say it was 5pm traffic but there were too many people to get in a good run. Especially with all of you guys following. Like I said, leave your little import gang behind and we can run them again.

    The only import races any of the people on IA have seen:
    This with the 300zx TT
    Some turbo hatch Civic
    And the neon

    Like I said, if you have any videos of these post them. And we can see who is stretching what. How would you even know who beat who if you didn't even see it? Just by what he told you. :jerkit:
    omg you are gay, how about a do-over?.. we want to see the 10 second T/A in action :jerkit:

    no.. at the time we didnt have the cam on us.. wish i did though.. nothing shuts faggots up like a vid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedM0nkey
    omg you are gay, how about a do-over?.. we want to see the 10 second T/A in action :jerkit:

    no.. at the time we didnt have the cam on us.. wish i did though.. nothing shuts faggots up like a vid.
    You can bring out the fastest little import you have and I'll drag any of your pieces of shit down the road. This one post is from the guy. The rest is her. You should remember me. I was the guy riding in the T/A with her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    You can bring out the fastest little import you have and I'll drag any of your pieces of shit down the road. This one post is from the guy. The rest is her. You should remember me. I was the guy riding in the T/A with her.

    hahahahaha with your turbo T/A?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedM0nkey
    omg you are gay, how about a do-over?.. we want to see the 10 second T/A in action :jerkit:

    no.. at the time we didnt have the cam on us.. wish i did though.. nothing shuts faggots up like a vid.
    I said we can do it again. I'm just saying how can you claim to win that race? Not only did we not get in a good run but 1. I always let him get the jump, 2. We didn't have time before one of you jackasses were in front of us for me to put multiple car lengths on him, 3. You didn't even see it! What are you complaining about?

    Your right. Video does shut up fags. So maybe I should go buy one to video the next race to shut you up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luv2spd
    I said we can do it again. I'm just saying how can you claim to win that race? Not only did we not get in a good run but 1. I always let him get the jump, 2. We didn't have time before one of you jackasses were in front of us for me to put multiple car lengths on him, 3. You didn't even see it! What are you complaining about?

    Your right. Video does shut up fags. So maybe I should go buy one to video the next race to shut you up.

    maybe you should, i wasnt in the way, you didnt beat me, the 300zx isnt my car.

    but yeah, we can do it again i guess. when are you available?
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