SprayGlo Feedback: Customer Service = A, Quality on my bumper = F

[ATK_Designs]

Since my thread got disappeared and no one had looked into it, I've decided to post a formal all in 1 review.

I'll try to keep this as unbiased as I can.

**This is strictly applied to my situation only. I do not guarantee if your job will turn out as good or as bad like mine**


August 2006:

1. Contacted Dion for a quote with Sprayglo to paint my G35 Nismo urethane Front bumper. I've heard good things about them from Brett, so decided to give them a try.
2. Brought my car with my new Nismo bumper up there. Jason quoted me a $300+ for the job. It's a little higher than Dion's quote, but I said okay, as l expect good OEM quality.
3. Dropped off my car with the bumper for test fit, heat treaded, prep work and paint.
4. Picked up after couple days. Paint looks good, match color nicely. This is the pic of the initial paint job, at Forged Performance Grand Opening Day:










5. Talked to Ed, the owner about previous quote given by Dion. Ed was SUPER NICE. He said, since DION gave me the quote, he'll Honor it and took of to about $235 bucks as the final bill.

***PLEASE NOTE: This is after the bumper is done and painted @ the original quote of $300+. It shows you what a great customer service that SprayGlo has.***


6. I later found out that there are rough spots and un painted areas on the sides of the bumper. I gave Ed the call. He told me to bring it back and he'll take care of it.

7. Brought the car back. They took care of it in couple days. The paint looks great afterward. I didn't pay any further attention.



***Fast Forward to 3 months later***

8. This is 90 days after the paint job, which is about right for me to get the car detailed, polished, and waxed.

9. Took the car to the detailer, ask him to detail the car. He shown me the area on the front Driver side has a large piece of orange skins that's not noticable when look at it standing up. He also pointed out the areas on the 2 face ducts hav soome serious bubling and signs of flaking off. He told me to take it back to sprayglo to see if they can fix it.

10. I didn' get the chance to go back to sprayglo until almost 1 month later. But paint keeps getting worse, It flakes and peels horribly.

11. Took it back to sprayglo, Ed and Jason take a look at it. They agreed to pay for the removal and reprep, and I have to pay for the paint, which is another $300 bucks. They claimed that because I scrapped the bottom of the car, that's why the front flakes off due to urethane being not as forgiving as ABS plastic???? This, even though, sound logically, but that's not the case. We see paint bubbling and flaking as well. I used to do 2 year of body work, so I know. But I decided not to argue, and to take my car back, to confirm with other shops.

12. I confirmed with other shops, and they all agreed that the the prep work was VERY POORLY DONE.

13. The paint job was for $300 paint job. I DID NOT expect a show quality, but not a $150 job that Maaco does also.

14. I called back, but they still insisted on it's my fault. I'm the type of guy who doesn't want to argue, so I just let it be whatever.

However, I'm very saddened by the poor job that SprayGlo had done on my front bumper.

My bumper shows uneven areas of prep job, very poorly done, and now, it bubbles, flakes and peels like crazy.

Here's the link to my album with the pics.

http://rides.webshots.com/album/558393117wpnvfG

If Sprayglo keeps insisted on it's my fault, I will gladly bring my Wingswest Urethane Lip Kit that I did on my accord to them. It got rock chipped and scrapped to hell, and even ripped off my front bumper in an accident, but never once flake or peel.


I was about to go for them for a full quality paint job when I'm ready to attend the show later this year, but seems like that's not the case. I'm a very unbiased guy. I'll reps and keep repping shops who does great quality, such as MSPi and TDF who work flawlessly on my Custom True Dual Exhaust setup.

But for this, I don't think I'll be repping Sprayglo any further.

[ATK_Designs]

Btw, I do have printscreens reference to this thread. So hopefully it won't mysteriously disappear like the other one (with 3 pages worth of quality information).

[Flip]

Wow thats pretty crappy prep work...

[KevinT707]

Good write up, sucks that it came to be like that sorry dude..

[Brett]

What I find to be so interesting, which anyone on IA who has used them would attest to, is they stand behind anything they do, and have corrected any issues for a customer with no questions asked, free of charge. When I was telling Ed about this a while back when I looked at your ticket which you actually paid less than $300 on (And bitched a lot about having to even pay that much), Ed was telling me they looked at the bumper when you brought it up there and the bumper was scraped up on the bottom, etc and he offered to repaint it for you but told you due to the proof of the markings on the bumper he would have to charge you to respray it. So you mean to tell me that you are the one person out of however many people that they wont stand behind and correct? They correct issues that are from THEIR WORK, not things that happen due to owner doing.

I have yet out of the 5+ years I have been dealing with them or sending people to them, have heard someone tell me they will not stand behind their work no questions asked. And then yet you are going to say their customer services is a A but then bitch in the same post that they wont take care of you?

[ATK_Designs]

What I find to be so interesting, which anyone on IA who has used them would attest to, is they stand behind anything they do, and have corrected any issues for a customer with no questions asked, free of charge. When I was telling Ed about this a while back when I looked at your ticket which you actually paid less than $300 on (And bitched a lot about having to even pay that much), Ed was telling me they looked at the bumper when you brought it up there and the bumper was scraped up on the bottom, etc and he offered to repaint it for you but told you due to the proof of the markings on the bumper he would have to charge you to respray it. So you mean to tell me that you are the one person out of however many people that they wont stand behind and correct? They correct issues that are from THEIR WORK, not things that happen due to owner doing.

I have yet out of the 5+ years I have been dealing with them or sending people to them, have heard someone tell me they will not stand behind their work no questions asked. And then yet you are going to say their customer services is a A but then bitch in the same post that they wont take care of you?

Brett, if you followed my post carefully, then you would see:

#5 above. I explained: Ed had such great customer service. He STICKS TO his guy's quote, and LOWER my previous quoted price when I PICKED up my car. He told me that it's a special case and to get the quote directly from him the next time. He knows it's his lost, but he's willing to stick to his words. This is after the painted is done for a $300+ quote.

Then Read The last sentence of #11, follow by #12 please, then check out the pics.

I NEVER claimed that I didn't scrap the bottom of my car. I did. BUT ifthey were to have the right prep work, It'll show hair line cracks, and doesn't flake nore peel like those pics.

You see the bubbling areas. This is Widely across the bumer and not just 1 spot. And this has been confirmed my many other shops.

Also see the area where they are prepped un evenly = Some have gray marks: some prep work; where as some are completely urethane black still = NO PREP WORK AT ALL???

If they were to prep it right and sand down the bumper from the start, it'd all be gray under, when flaked and peeled. What do you explain about the pure urethane blacks shown under the bumper?

FYI, I didn't bash their customer service at all. They were very nice to offer. But they failed to acknowledge the poor quality did on mine.

I have absolutely NO PROBLEMS repaying, but I DON'T WANT the same quality job done again.

FYI, in my other thread, you can see that there are other folks who had the same issues with sprayglo. I'm not the only one.

[GTScoob]

lol at thread disappeared. If somebody is trashing a site vendor, they should be allowed their opinion but just close the thread and leave it in public view for any future customers to see.

Sucks for you, I've never dealt with them but was going to keep them in mind when I get around to doing exterior stuff.

[MaconPerformance]

Looks like not enough flex was in the primer/paint.

[Vteckidd]

i only have 2 things to say in this thread:

1) With a car like a G35, $300 to paint a front bumper already seems way to cheap for a body shop to do it. Sprayglo seems to me like a place that does cheap, but decent paint jobs. They arent Maaco, but rather a step UP from them. They seem to do alot of cheap affordable paint jobs that will satisfy most people. But the higher end cars (g35s, 350zs, BMWs, Supras, S2000s, Is300s, etc) i wouldnt have a place like them do it. Not saying they cant, but its not their specialty.

If i was a sprayglo rep, i would have told you from the get go that a car that nice probably needs to be more money for a A+ quality job on a higher end car like that. Rather than do their cheap $300 paint job, they should have told you it was going to be more money to have it done right. It seems it was bad prep work and not enough flex agent in the paint . That is pure flaking, not "i hit a rock an it took some paint off". paint should never look like that unless it was done cheaply.

2) This thread is valid, but shouldnt deter anyone from going to Sprayglo. They have done decent jobs on peoples cars that i have seen, including Juan Bs CRX from over 2 years ago that i was very impressed with. But a $1000 car that is 15 years old with a $300 paint job is different than a $35,000 car with a $4000 paint job. hard to compare the 2.

I know Grays charged Chris with the S2000 $3700 for his paint job, and it was FLAWLESS. And Stickys Front Bumper on his JDM front end was $475, but its looks like factory.

90% of the people on here will have no problems with Sprayglo and their service/work. The other 10% of you guys with cars that i cant afford ( LOL) should keep in mind the work that sprayglo does. When you speak with them, tell them you want an A+ job for your higher end car, and tell them that. Im sure they have multiple levels of quality from Single stage to multistage.

[ATK_Designs]

Thanks Mike for the informative post.

Yes, this thread is about my situation only as I already put the disclaimer up front.

Also, I didn't know anything about the "levels" of quality that sprayglo offered. When I dropped my car off to Jason, I told him I want the bumper done. Don't look for show quality, but a good work like OEM since I heard good stuffs from Dion and Brett about them.

Btw, the paint job was under the quoted price of $300+. I don't remember the exact amount, but it was around $350.

But then again, Ed was such a great guy, he KNOCKED off 100 bucks to match Dion's quote. This is AFTER everything was done.

Like I said, the paint and installation is nice...just the prep work is poor.

[Brett]

Just so there is word from Spray Glo here is what Ed told me and sent as a PM to him (I just want people looking at Spray Glo to see the shops side so this isnt a one sided story)

Here is what Ed said and then below is the PM he sent to interlude.

We do not usually respond to IA negative posts, since they usually cause "he said...she said" situations and seldom does anything except escalate the problem. We always try to solve the problem with the individual, but sometimes the individual pushes us too far, as in this situation.

Here is the PM sent by Ed to Interlude:

PM - Thanks for the great customer service rating of "A" We seldom respond openly on a website concerning our customers, since this only creates havoc in the long run. We have told you the problem...you hit something and hence the stress /cracking/etc. around the area of the impact. The prep work was fine and the black marks are the urethane, under the CLEAR ADHESION PROMOTOR, which is used on all urethane bumpers. We also told you we would repaint the bumper at the same cost, even though it would cost us 2-3 hours at $62 per hour just to repair your stress cracks where you hit something. How much more would you expect from any shop? ED

[ATK_Designs]

You're more than welcome to have Ed/SprayGlo post in public:

Also, from the beginning, I've always given Sprayglo the credit on the repair: See post #11 above.


FYI, here's my PM in reply to Ed:

Ed,

If you looked at the pics I posted of the latest, there are more areas, widely across the bumper that's flaking and pealing off.

I was expecting that you'd heat treated properly, Adhesive promotor, sand, primer, sand, and paint.

However, it seems like you only set the bumper out on the sun, spray on the adhesive promoter, then paint the bumper.

If it's indeed like you said that the prep work was good all around, you are more than welcome to check out the pics. Some area shows gray marks, which meant they're prepped corretly and the paint sticks to them. Some are totally black urethane, which mean paint doesn't stick to them, at all.

If you still insist on saying it's because I scrapped the bottom, would you like to see the urethane lip kit, that I repsrayed for my other car, after being scrapped, hit, and ripped off my other car's bumper? Guess what? The paint never flake nor peeled, after 5 years of abusiving.

I was going to let you guys work on my car as it'll be my all show and go car as I've invested way more $10,000 in it already, during 1 year of ownership and I still have lots of plan to it (Full Fiberglass Job and motorization for the audio setup) and Built Block + Twin Turbo.

Though it's all my own money, but I'll say good and represents the shops that does great work on my car: MSPi, Forged Performance, etc. without any sponsorships.

btw, please excuse my corrupted grammar as I just typed out what I thought.

[Brett]

I am not trying to start drama with this, I just wanted Ed/Shirleen to have what they had to say out there, so its not all one sided without people hearing from them.

[ATK_Designs]

I am not trying to start drama with this, I just wanted Ed/Shirleen to have what they had to say out there, so its not all one sided without people hearing from them.

Oh no, Brett, don't get me wrong...I'm a very unbiased person.

I didn't want to start any drama, that's why I tried to put the disclaimers and be as detailed as I can.

This is purely my feedback.

We're all profesional individuals, that's why I want to keep it that way.

Ed/Sprayglo are more than welcome to contact me if they wish to discuss any further.

They should have my info. If not, here's mine

Kevin
404-513-6299

[iloveboost]

Ok, I understand bottoming out and resulting in getting cracks in the paint, etc.

It doesn't explain the bubbling or flaking.

You have a G35. Why cheap out on paint? An extra $150 and you could've gotten exactly what you wanted without any headaches from a high end paint shop.

[ATK_Designs]

Ok, I understand bottoming out and resulting in getting cracks in the paint, etc.

It doesn't explain the bubbling or flaking.

You have a G35. Why cheap out on paint? An extra $150 and you could've gotten exactly what you wanted without any headaches from a high end paint shop.

Thanks for understanding:

Please Refer to #1 above: I saw Brett's car, and it's good, I just want something OEM quality by then, because I'll have my car resprayed when I'm going all out later.

It's still my daily car in 2006. That's why I gave them a try. I didn't want a show quality, which another shop quoted me $500 for a full show quality job. It obviously will not match up to the rest of car, being it's 3 years old then.

Many people up here know that I don't cheap out on stuffs....ask Mike, he knows that I want good quality stuffs when I really mean it. He saw my cars, my mods, so he knows. Other people that met me before can also tell you that as well.

[IDCoconut]

I was going to get my car painted at Spray Glo because of all the good feedback I have been seeing on this forum, I figured maybe this place is different from the Spray-Glo in Albany, GA, which did not so good jobs, but I guess they're all the same with the same procedures.

I'm not trying to start anything, but you can't justify that paint bubbling is from hitting something and flexing. Bubbling is purely bad prep work. The paint didn't stick! Every bodyshop should know that. A good paintjob doesn't rely solely on the painter, it's about 80% pre/post work. The painter is only needed for 20% of it, if even.

But I agree with Mr. Kidd. Most of the folks will not have a problem and will not complain. Because for the price, you get what you are paying for. I'm sure they have the capability to make a car show quality. Brett's car as an example I bet. But for that price that I was willing to pay, I'd rather just go to a shop that I know spits out good quality every time, and not one that spits it out when they are paid to do so.

[ATK_Designs]

Since SprayGlo has no further comments, I'll have to repaint my bumper at another reputable place.

[eltravieso]

damn!!!!

[Kyle]

i only have 2 things to say in this thread:

1) With a car like a G35, $300 to paint a front bumper already seems way to cheap for a body shop to do it. Sprayglo seems to me like a place that does cheap, but decent paint jobs. They arent Maaco, but rather a step UP from them. They seem to do alot of cheap affordable paint jobs that will satisfy most people. But the higher end cars (g35s, 350zs, BMWs, Supras, S2000s, Is300s, etc) i wouldnt have a place like them do it. Not saying they cant, but its not their specialty.

If i was a sprayglo rep, i would have told you from the get go that a car that nice probably needs to be more money for a A+ quality job on a higher end car like that. Rather than do their cheap $300 paint job, they should have told you it was going to be more money to have it done right. It seems it was bad prep work and not enough flex agent in the paint . That is pure flaking, not "i hit a rock an it took some paint off". paint should never look like that unless it was done cheaply.

2) This thread is valid, but shouldnt deter anyone from going to Sprayglo. They have done decent jobs on peoples cars that i have seen, including Juan Bs CRX from over 2 years ago that i was very impressed with. But a $1000 car that is 15 years old with a $300 paint job is different than a $35,000 car with a $4000 paint job. hard to compare the 2.

I know Grays charged Chris with the S2000 $3700 for his paint job, and it was FLAWLESS. And Stickys Front Bumper on his JDM front end was $475, but its looks like factory.

90% of the people on here will have no problems with Sprayglo and their service/work. The other 10% of you guys with cars that i cant afford ( LOL) should keep in mind the work that sprayglo does. When you speak with them, tell them you want an A+ job for your higher end car, and tell them that. Im sure they have multiple levels of quality from Single stage to multistage.

Exactly. All well said IMHO.

Feedback threads like these are great though. BUT, rational things like mr. kidd said need to accompany these threads so people dont immediately think "Beware of sprayglo" or get the wrong idea.

I am glad I have heard about his experience, now I know not to get a cheap paintjob on a nice car. But I still think it is questionable whether or not he should have to pay for the paint. The cheaper paint not matching his car or not looking right is one thing, but the issues he is having seem different and dont seem to be based on the fact that its a nicer car. I hope that makes sense.

[green91]

I am completely neutral in this situation

BUT

What difference does it make if its a $1,000 car or a $35,000 car? In order for paint to adhere to either of them.. a certain amount of preparatory work needs to be done, and in this case it doesnt appear that the bumper's surface was completely prepared for paint. Its that simple.

[Blaze the chemi]

I normally don't get involved in threads like this but here is my experience with Sprayglo in Duluth...

Ed quoted me a job and it was great. Come to find out he quoted me the basic (Non Si) front, rear bumper and side skirts. I was getting rid of my hideous body kit.

Jason gave me a call to tell me that I needed to fork over more money because of the misquote. I said yes to the higher prices.

I picked up my car happy as a clam and over looked it quickly. Jason was there on a saturday so I could pick it up. Very nice.

After a week to rinse off the fall leaves and junk I looked the car over really good. I noticed there were some white splotches all over the place, like a buffer of some sort, even on the windows. And of course EBP paint on the black trim

I called Jason up with the scoup and he told me to bring it in. I did. They had it for 3-4 days and it was done.

I went to pick it up and inspected it really hard just to make sure I didn't have to take another trip. I did not leave Sprayglo with the car. There was a spot that they had to weld and it was already rusting. So they had the car for another week or so.

I picked it up and everything was good to go after the heavy inspection. I still have a quirk with the tiny scratch on my roof from the wet sand, but that is minor.

A few weeks ago (march 21st) I went to Talledega Gran Prix to track my car and a blowout from a truck in front of me ended up smacking my front bumer, f'd up my driver headlight, and dented my hood. I have yet to see any paint fly off or chip off at the moment, but my car has been on stands for the last week. That means they did their prep work on my car.

They do stand behind their work and are basically a no questions asked policy. I would still go to them in the future even though I had those quirks because they took care of it without hesitation. The price was good, but the customer service is great, and that is a less of a headache than no customer service.

[ATK_Designs]

I'm glad you had a great experience. I did to at first. But the longevity of the paint job on my car is questionable.

Obviously, there where no comments on the bubbling and flaking.

Oh well, lesson learned.

[RiceBoy]

Sorry about the paint job man. Last time you pm me about my paint job, I could have gone into details and save you the troubles. Thats a bad paint preparation and wrong hardener. If done correctly, you can bang the shit out of it, and paint still won't flake. This is the link to my recent paint job, and if you read it carefully. When I stated that I have been through couple of places to correct my problems and none of them were corrected; well unfortunately Sprayglo was one of them.

My new Paint Job from Al Gray AKA Premier/Lizard

Since that paint job was done, I have hit numerous concrete dividers and the paint are still intact. Its scratches up a bit but still intact. I can take a pic of my lip if you want...

[Brett]

A few weeks ago (march 21st) I went to Talledega Gran Prix to track my car and a blowout from a truck in front of me ended up smacking my front bumer, f'd up my driver headlight, and dented my hood. I have yet to see any paint fly off or chip off at the moment, but my car has been on stands for the last week. That means they did their prep work on my car.

They do stand behind their work and are basically a no questions asked policy. I would still go to them in the future even though I had those quirks because they took care of it without hesitation. The price was good, but the customer service is great, and that is a less of a headache than no customer service.

[Nemesis]

Im giving Spray Glo another chance to rectify their situation with me, because it could have just been a mistake and they have been very polite with me, either way I will report back with my conclusions.

[ATK_Designs]

Any updates George?

They never contact me back after their first PM to me. I hope your case will be better.

[Nemesis]

Yep, I actually got the lip back last week and it came out great. 1000 times better than the first time I had picked it up. Looks OEM quality. However, in my case of a urethane lip I was told by more than one body shop that those are harder to paint because of the oils and chemicals that sometimes are still in the actual lip before painting. But overall Im happy with the turnout and will be taking a few more things back there.

[ATK_Designs]

Yep, I actually got the lip back last week and it came out great. 1000 times better than the first time I had picked it up. Looks OEM quality. However, in my case of a urethane lip I was told by more than one body shop that those are harder to paint because of the oils and chemicals that sometimes are still in the actual lip before painting. But overall Im happy with the turnout and will be taking a few more things back there.

Congrat.

They've haven't contact me or anything to rectify my situation after the last PM we exchanged. I guess it's more of a hassle to do the whole bumper than just the lip kit

[Brett]

Yep, I actually got the lip back last week and it came out great. 1000 times better than the first time I had picked it up. Looks OEM quality. However, in my case of a urethane lip I was told by more than one body shop that those are harder to paint because of the oils and chemicals that sometimes are still in the actual lip before painting. But overall Im happy with the turnout and will be taking a few more things back there.

Thanks George!! Car looked great Friday night man

[Nismo]

So what ever happened with your car Interlude?

[ATK_Designs]

So what ever happened with your car Interlude?

Nothing, Sprayglo just ignored it. As you can see, they never PM me back after I replied to them. Seems like they don't want to take corrective actions.

The car is sitting there with the bumper keeps flaking and peeling off like that.

I'll put it under surgery soon though...For a change over. But that bumper is going to be off to another G35, and this one may go with something a lil more extreme (widebody )

[an0therh22]

i say you keep the current bumper right now. it looks sweet!

[Twinnos]

at least sprayglo didn't drill some screws in your wiring harness like they did when they were putting my body kit on causing my car to slowly short out to where it had to be towed to madhavi and get fixed!

[ATK_Designs]

^ lol....sorry to hear that bro



Anyways, just for kicks, here's how my car looks now (overwall wise). A lot of $$ had put into her. She'll be under go new transformation.

This pic was taken when I took her to the Z National Track day (spectator only since there weren't any spots left). That's why you see I roll on the heavy ass 19" Maya STM

I went to the Big Forged Performance meet on last Saturday and ALL people who saw my car asked the same question:

"Who did that poor paint job on the front bumper? Let us know so we can avoid"

Lol.






As you can see, I'm not the type of person who'd cheap out on stuffs. Tons of $$ into full suspension, performance, handling, and cosmetic works.

Stay tuned for more stuffs. New kits are comming in and she's going BIG

Too bad that Sprayglo didn't feel like representing their work.

[koi]

What do you do for a living Interlude(can pm if you like)? If you have a skill. I can paint your bumber for you if you have something to offer.

In other words. I want to Barter.

[Brett]

at least sprayglo didn't drill some screws in your wiring harness like they did when they were putting my body kit on causing my car to slowly short out to where it had to be towed to madhavi and get fixed!

... but you fail to metion how the shop who did the wiring put it in the fender. The wiring harness was supposed to be in the apron, not in the fender, so the tech had no way of knowing your wiring was in the wrong place

[Twinnos]

sorry bro but no other shop did the wiring harness. and this was waaaayyy before your time. I have been knowing them a lot longer than u have. they are great people but they run a sloppy shop. I got a lot more startling eyewitnessed info as well. just pm me. and u might want to stop defending sprayglo every time someone says something u don't like about them. like I said pm me, u or anyone else. later.

[Brett]

sorry bro but no other shop did the wiring harness. and this was waaaayyy before your time. I have been knowing them a lot longer than u have. they are great people but they run a sloppy shop. I got a lot more startling eyewitnessed info as well. just pm me. and u might want to stop defending sprayglo every time someone says something u don't like about them. like I said pm me, u or anyone else. later.

I may want to stop? I doubt that. I will defend them when a story is as one sided as yours, Yeah I will come on here and mention it so people know whats up. And your car is not WAY before my time, I have been in the game a while and was around when your probe was still all white stickers and white wheels dawg, I have been around to see the changes. And if they are so "Sloppy" as you say, You sure did go with them for MANY years then dropped them once you got a free paint job.

..... Oh and if they are so "Sloppy" as you say, You can explain this one. You are now building a new progect car, the RX-7 correct? Well if they do such sloppy work, why is it you went up there for a quote a month ago, and even dropped off the car for them to do the new paint/body work on your new SHOW CAR? I know you ended up picking it up before they started but you did ask for a "Hook Up" and when Ed charged you full price I guess you changed your mind, so to me it just seems you are more upset you didnt get the "Hook Up" and now you want to bash them. I just cant see how you can say they are so sloppy when you are in a team like 935 and we all know how high quality thier show cars are and have some of the nest in the East, and you were wanting Spray Glo to do the work when in such a high caliber team that expects perfection. Seems to me you trust the shop alot more than you care to admit on here.

Anyways, Im done with this, thats all I had to say so anything else said wont be answered. Im not going to turn this into a back and fourth bicker,

[Twinnos]

once again that is incorrect info. oh and how nice of you to tell ed I was posting about his shop and then he called and left a voice msg (which I deleted as soon as I heard his voice). I dropped the car off to get a simple bumper and two side skirts put on. even their shop could do that without messing up. when I refer to sloppy I am talking about their painting skills and lack of paying attention to detail. like the overspray on my polished muffler, losing some of my windshield cowl pcs, backing up my car so far on the curve that the welding on my muffler snapped and I had to pay 60 bucks to get it fixed, like letting the battery run down and then couldn't get it started until I bbought some new spark plugs, them having to constantly repaint my car due to the paint cracking because they only scuff sanded when they should have taken the paint off down to the metal. bro I could go on but u get the point. my car was sponsored for quite some time with them and they were still sloppy then. like I said they r good people but run a sloppy shop. sorry bro the truth is what it is. oh pls tell ed don't call me anymore. peace.