j427s - questionable seller?

[ash7]

I hate spending my time typing out a "bad" seller thread... especially when it concerns someone here local. It would make me happier to write a "good" seller thread. This sale was somewhat trivial and not of much importance to me, but regardless - it's the principle that counts.

I had talked to him on the phone a few times and we had come to an agreement of $150 for some scratched up fat fives with worthless tires. (which was fine, i just wanted to get my crx off of jackstands)

However, he called me up later and informed me that he had just traded them with his buddy for some old scratched SI wheels, (two of which would not have tires because he took them off to swap them onto the fat fives) and asked if i would be interested in them. After I asked the price and was told it would be the same as the fat fives, I agreed.

I arrived at the meeting place and looking at the wheels they were pretty much as described. [missing tires, heavy scratches on the wheels] I handed him 150, and he said "the price was 175 dude." After i regained my composure, the first words out of my mouth were "Man, you said 150" -

his excuse was
"...but i had to change the tires out and all dude"

I'm not going to say that j427s is a bad seller, but this is not the first time he has done this. So i believe he is a "questionable" seller who doesn't like to stick to his original bargains in hopes of making a few quick bucks.

I plan on avoiding business with him again, and i would suggest others be wary of the same kind of "shenanagins."

thanks
-jonathan

[odie22]

he did this when we were trading my Hasport AC bracket for an ECU.

He and I agreed that it was going to be a straight trade, but he tried to pull a fast one on me too when we met up.

[81911SC]

Not your fault. He didn't have to do that. Price should have stayed the same.

[low mileage]

he would have kept those si wheels if it had been me. but then again thats just me.

[j427s]

wow john this brings me to a question i said last night do you still want them and just work off the rest in a trade later on and you said yes if you didnt want them then why did you say ok and load them up ? If you have problems then why get them

[j427s]

First off brian i never met you up then you said pick any and all you want for a trade on a chipped and socketed b16 ecu i said all you had that i was intersested in was the hasport bracket i said trade and fifty bucks you said ok and it would be a while before you counld get any cash so i said ok a month and a half later you came to my work and gave me thirty so how again am i screwing you ? you still never paid me off and i never bothered you about it

he did this when we were trading my Hasport AC bracket for an ECU.

He and I agreed that it was going to be a straight trade, but he tried to pull a fast one on me too when we met up.

[ash7]

wow john this brings me to a question i said last night do you still want them and just work off the rest in a trade later on and you said yes if you didnt want them then why did you say ok and load them up ? If you have problems then why get them

Having an extra 25 bucks was not an issue for me Jonathan, I had it right there in my wallet. I'm not going to 'work' out the extra 25 in some deal with you. I agreed to whatever you said simply because I was livid and doing my best to control my temper in front of your girlfriend. However, I am willing to pay you the extra 25 bucks straight up whever you like, but if that is to be the case - then I am afraid I will not take down this thread as you requested.

-Jonathan

[j427s]

Jon if $25 if so important to you keep it i would rather lose $25 and truly find out the person you are now rather than down the road later on

Having an extra 25 bucks was not an issue for me Jonathan, I had it right there in my wallet. I'm not going to 'work' out the extra 25 in some deal with you. I agreed to whatever you said simply because I was livid and doing my best to control my temper in front of your girlfriend. However, I am willing to pay you the extra 25 bucks straight up whever you like, but if that is to be the case - then I am afraid I will not take down this thread as you requested.

-Jonathan

[Double_0_Rusty]

I have conducted business with Jonathan (J427s) a few weeks back. I traded him my 89 Civic Si, for his Talon. We agreed upon, me paying 200$ for boot for new tires on the Civic, as they wore out. I drove two hours to meet up with him, 200 cash with me. Got there, and he said 300, and come to find out he didnt use the money for new tires, instead put drag's on it. It made me pretty upset, but I said nothing, as I was alone, and he had his buddy there. But all in all, I think I came out of the deal ok. However, he never mentioned the oil leak it had, and that 5th gear popped out at times. No biggie. I prolly will not do business with him again, but I AM NOT going to try to ruin his rep on here. Actually, I don't think I will make trade transactions with anyone on IA, ever again.

[Tech5]

wowow......

[81911SC]

So it's not the first time he's done this. Hmm

[Tech5]

I think he needs to be BANNED

[Double_0_Rusty]

So it's not the first time he's done this. Hmm

apparently.

[Tech5]

yeah what a JEW

So it's not the first time he's done this. Hmm

[Scotsman]

tsk tsk , 3 people with" questionable" comments?!?!!? a ban is in the near future

[j427s]

Ok people to clear things up on the trade he mentioned that the car had a small oil leak upon arrival he wasnt parked 2 min i looked under the car to see how bad it leaked the were at least 7-8 drops on the ground so the extra hundred adjustment was for the new rear main seal and the oil pan gasket that it needed and i already had the drags and the other 200 went to tie rod ends that were needed an alignment brakes getting the exhaust ran and the wheel bearings that were noisy also the car has bad transmission bearings that i never bothered rusty about not trying to bash on him but that was the reasoning for the extra boot

I have conducted business with Jonathan (J427s) a few weeks back. I traded him my 89 Civic Si, for his Talon. We agreed upon, me paying 200$ for boot for new tires on the Civic, as they wore out. I drove two hours to meet up with him, 200 cash with me. Got there, and he said 300, and come to find out he didnt use the money for new tires, instead put drag's on it. It made me pretty upset, but I said nothing, as I was alone, and he had his buddy there. But all in all, I think I came out of the deal ok. However, he never mentioned the oil leak it had, and that 5th gear popped out at times. No biggie. I prolly will not do business with him again, but I AM NOT going to try to ruin his rep on here. Actually, I don't think I will make trade transactions with anyone on IA, ever again.

[Scotsman]

point being , three people said they went to meet you and you upped the price when you got there?!?! your time on IA will be short lived pullin that kind of BS

[reddeg]

I can vouche for Jonathan (J427S) i have done a lot of business with him and he has always been honest and never uped the price or any of that bs he has clearly made a point on each transaction

[EliteGSR]

I've known Jonathan (J427s) for a year or so, and I've bought a couple different things from him. Any time I have a question he helps me out. I think the problem is that the price wasn't clearly established. He's never upped a price on me at the last minute.

I'm not saying that se7en shouldn't be upset, because he thought he was getting the wheels for a different price than Jonathan had in mind, and it wasn't clearly established. From what I've seen on IA se7en seems like a good guy, so does J427s.

It's just $25 bucks... no banning necessary here.

[bigdare23]

This is funny


My homie, JDMJAYDC2, got a "EF Civic SiR" air box from this cat. After he got it, he brought it to me since I have a EF9 b16 swap that came with an air box. After looking at the air box that j427s sold to my him, it didn't look anything like the air box that came with my swap. Being the cool guy he is, he decided to roll with it and not raise hell because I could of been wrong. A few day later, he tried to install it after his b16 swap, nope it didn't fit.


I wouldn't buy **** from this cat

[j427s]

Sorry but no it will look diffrent if it is out of an eg6 as posted in the thread get your story straight so yeah they do look diffrent

This is funny


My homie, JDMJAYDC2, got a "EF Civic SiR" air box from this cat. After he got it, he brought it to me since I have a EF9 b16 swap that came with an air box. After looking at the air box that j427s sold to my him, it didn't look anything like the air box that came with my swap. Being the cool guy he is, he decided to roll with it and not raise hell because I could of been wrong. A few day later, he tried to install it after his b16 swap, nope it didn't fit.


I wouldn't buy **** from this cat

[Tech5]

damn dude, sorry to hear about that, yet another person saying they would not buy from J427s I think he is a lyer

This is funny


My homie, JDMJAYDC2, got a "EF Civic SiR" air box from this cat. After he got it, he brought it to me since I have a EF9 b16 swap that came with an air box. After looking at the air box that j427s sold to my him, it didn't look anything like the air box that came with my swap. Being the cool guy he is, he decided to roll with it and not raise hell because I could of been wrong. A few day later, he tried to install it after his b16 swap, nope it didn't fit.


I wouldn't buy **** from this cat

[green91]

To many shady characters around here, ban this guy.

[Scotsman]

count is now up to 4 , mods have been pm'ed

[Tech5]

<Pm'ed a MOD

[Double_0_Rusty]

Ok people to clear things up on the trade he mentioned that the car had a small oil leak upon arrival he wasnt parked 2 min i looked under the car to see how bad it leaked the were at least 7-8 drops on the ground so the extra hundred adjustment was for the new rear main seal and the oil pan gasket that it needed and i already had the drags and the other 200 went to tie rod ends that were needed an alignment brakes getting the exhaust ran and the wheel bearings that were noisy also the car has bad transmission bearings that i never bothered rusty about not trying to bash on him but that was the reasoning for the extra boot

Atleast I was honest about the oil leak, homie. I told you where I thought it was coming from. Im not bashing on you at all, I just didn't like how you jumped the price a hundred bucks, after I drove two hours. I told you everything that I knew was wrong with the car. You knew the car didn't have an exhaust system on it at the time. I wanted to have that done before I got rid of it. But oh well, what is done is done.

[Double_0_Rusty]

I can vouche for Jonathan (J427S) i have done a lot of business with him and he has always been honest and never upped the price or any of that bs he has clearly made a point on each transaction

I've known Jonathan (J427s) for a year or so, and I've bought a couple different things from him. Any time I have a question he helps me out. I think the problem is that the price wasn't clearly established. He's never upped a price on me at the last minute.

I'm not saying that se7en shouldn't be upset, because he thought he was getting the wheels for a different price than Jonathan had in mind, and it wasn't clearly established. From what I've seen on IA se7en seems like a good guy, so does J427s.

It's just $25 bucks... no banning necessary here.

Of course he isn't going to up the price for his buddies.

[steedracer]

i picked up a tranny a week ago from him that he stated was perfect nothing wrong with it. get it checked out bf i put it in and it is no good. wasnt gonna say anything but with me this makes 5 so far. dont buy from him! bad seller. sells junk

[six7teen]

ive done a lot of business with J427S and i have never had any issues like this.. the first thing i bought from him was a b18 block and head (which he gave me a great price), and we started talking about parts i was gonna be needing. he helped me out with everything, gave me great prices, and always was being fair. he has always been negotiable on prices. i have and will in the future do business with him. i trust him and he has never done me wrong..

[A-ran]

I will always do business with J427S... good guy, good seller!

se7en, this is bull crap... I really thought better of you...

[odie22]

i dont think this is crap, look at all of the people that he has shafted in the past... the only people that has anything good to say are his buddies, and like, what are we up to 5 people now?

[Double_0_Rusty]

Odie22, you are correct sir.

[ash7]

I will always do business with J427S... good guy, good seller!

se7en, this is bull crap... I really thought better of you...

You're acting like I wrote this thread with the intent of getting jonathan banned. Feel free to be mad at me all you want, i know jonathan is "your boy", next door neighbor, and you're probably taking all this as a personal attack on you. (as judged by your "i really thought better of you" comment - as if i was supposed to just ignore this)

I was simply writing on experience with him, bryan decided to chim in, and so did a couple others. I DO know that ben and you have bought a lot of parts from him, and yes, he IS a decent guy. I actually AGREE with EliteGSR where he posted:

It's just $25 bucks... no banning necessary here

BUT, A-ran, where can you find basis to practicaly agree (by scolding me) with how he has repeatedly changed the terms of agreement with me and others? (as shown in this thread)

The facts (regardless) are as follows:
1) he raised the price on me -last minute-
2) he changed the terms of agreement with odie22 -last minute-
3) he raised the price on 00rusty unexpectedly -last minute-
4) had a misleading FS thread
5) sold a perfect (a.k.a. destroyed) transmission to steedracer

These are not traits of an "A+" seller
-jonathan

[AnthonyF]

So whats the deal here? I read most of the posts. this guy j427s has some good and bad feedback. Mostly bad...

This is why we had the rules for NO NOOBS to be able to post in the FS section. If I hear of another report like this from this guy there will be consequences.

[BTLFED]

So whats the deal here? I read most of the posts. this guy j427s has some good and bad feedback. Mostly bad...

This is why we had the rules for NO NOOBS to be able to post in the FS section. If I hear of another report like this from this guy there will be consequences.

I agree. This guy is on dangerously thin ice. One of us hears about another shady transaction and he's gone.

[Tech5]

thanks MODS, His buddys are signing on to make it look better then it is, there are more then 4 people with shady transactions,I think this guy is far gone an need to be ban, but thanks MODS for watching an checking this thread out

[j427s]

Wow now that joshuaASE has offically became the narrator for this situation he can now walk the street and feel better that a mod has saved his life

thanks MODS, His buddys are signing on to make it look better then it is, there are more then 4 people with shady transactions,I think this guy is far gone an need to be ban, but thanks MODS for watching an checking this thread out

[reddeg]

yeah what a douche

Wow now that joshuaASE has offically became the narrator for this situation he can now walk the street and feel better that a mod has saved his life

[Tech5]

Hey am not the one that is Doing Shady sales, an Screwing people over you are !!!!! an I think you need to be BANNED b/c knowone on ImportAtlanta want people like you on here, So I think you should just leave an take your shady character somewhere else an Screw someone else over which am sure you will

[A-ran]

You're acting like I wrote this thread with the intent of getting jonathan banned. Feel free to be mad at me all you want, i know jonathan is "your boy", next door neighbor, and you're probably taking all this as a personal attack on you. (as judged by your "i really thought better of you" comment - as if i was supposed to just ignore this)

I was simply writing on experience with him, bryan decided to chim in, and so did a couple others. I DO know that ben and you have bought a lot of parts from him, and yes, he IS a decent guy. I actually AGREE with EliteGSR where he posted:



BUT, A-ran, where can you find basis to practicaly agree (by scolding me) with how he has repeatedly changed the terms of agreement with me and others? (as shown in this thread)

The facts (regardless) are as follows:
1) he raised the price on me -last minute-
2) he changed the terms of agreement with odie22 -last minute-
3) he raised the price on 00rusty unexpectedly -last minute-
4) had a misleading FS thread
5) sold a perfect (a.k.a. destroyed) transmission to steedracer

These are not traits of an "A+" seller
-jonathan

Jon I think of you as "one of my boys" but it's not like someone had a gun to your head telling you to buy the wheels...

I'm not goin to get in all this crap. I was just sayin what I thought. just like everyone else is in this thread...