Look I could careless, go shoot your cars. Have fun. Call it a photo shoot if you want even tho to me it is not. And if you would read, I stopped even caring and was cracking jokes. So YOU STFU.Originally Posted by SenorJ
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Look I could careless, go shoot your cars. Have fun. Call it a photo shoot if you want even tho to me it is not. And if you would read, I stopped even caring and was cracking jokes. So YOU STFU.Originally Posted by SenorJ
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i guess sarcasm is hard to see online. it must be hard being serious all the time.
That's what I've been trying to tell these people!Originally Posted by james
photoshoot.
get angry people, i said it.
defend the photographers honor.
Being serious now. Everyone in this thread is correct. The word is just a word, and everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Calm down everyone.
Originally Posted by SenorJ
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First off, I completely agree with the "photoshoot" word getting thrown around way too much. I agree that it's very annoying.
But... I don't agree with what you were saying about how bad it is for people to take photos for free, since it floods the market and drives down your prices. If you are going to charge for something that someone can otherwise get for free, then you need to be offering them something of which they are willing to pay for... photos that are just that much better than what they can already get. Photos that make them think "wow, I haven't seen that kind of quality anywhere else."
I don't think you can get mad at other people legitimately stealing your business. Just my opinion though.
[instigating]i went and did a photoshoot sunday of some cars, in the middle of PP and resizing for 6x4 promotion cars to be made for the shop. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot. photoshoot.[/instigating]
oooohhhh he called you people bitchs and said your mothers were whores!Originally Posted by imbosile
Originally Posted by CH@Dbee
Hahaa hey now, I'm not trying to start anything!
We can argue this till the end of time but what it boils down to is "when you DO start charging for shoots, you will see where we are coming from". Off to enjoy so beer and my new/old 5D Classic.Originally Posted by imbosile
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Whatcha drinkin'?Originally Posted by A.P. Photography
this is true, it frustrates meOriginally Posted by A.P. Photography
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HeiniOriginally Posted by imbosile
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That's actually one of the few beers I've never tried. Newcastle ftw!Originally Posted by A.P. Photography
I'm gonna disagree. If Joe-sixpack with his $450 used SLR, IS f/3.x zoom lenses, and 2 weeks experience is giving you pros a run for your money then you need to either:
1. Get a lot better at what you do
2. Make sure that you educate your customers as to *why* they are paying you big $$$
It happens with my company all the time. We have competitors constantly trying to get jobs we are specified on by undercutting the price and claiming that their product is basically the same. Its the job of our salespeople and representatives to make sure that the people in charge understand what the real differences are and the advantages they get from a higher quality product. Occasionally the competition will succeed and get a few breadcrumbs, but more often than not, they don't. That is why they still remain the lower price, lower quality competition.
If you are in business for yourself then you already know that whatever it is you do... half your job is to be a good salesperson. Don't hate on your less skilled, lower priced (or sometimes free) competitors. Hate on how easy it is to get into the photography game. All you need is a computer and $500 worth of equipment and a little bit of know-how.
I'd be ashamed if some no-name hobbyist was better than me at what I do for a living.
woot,
i win. im number two