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ok when i worked for S&W automotive i took pictures with my blackjack phone of parts we had at the junkyard to post for sale here on IA(yes i was a sponsor)
so i HAVE done a photoshoot! and it was with a phone!!!!
HA! you cant keep me down son!
what! what!
That's where you're wrong. Because servicing a client goes far beyond just a pretty pic. I'm not going off track at all. I used an analogy to prove a point. A flooded car, once dried out and detailed and at first glance, looks much like any other non-flooded car. It may LOOK like a duck, but it's NOT a duck. Much like someone who simply buys a DSLR is NOT automatically a "photographer" doing a "photo shoot" just because he LOOKS the part. THAT was my point. If you didn't get that then, you should get it now.
Again, you missed my point, so I'll repeat. No matter how much you dress it up, a "Jiffy Lube" attendant is NOT A MECHANIC 99.99999% of the time. They may DRESS like one, have TOOLS like one, but they are NOT one. Again, much like someone that merely buys a DSLR is not automatically some hot shot photographer because he/she has snapped a few pics of their buddies ricer mobile in some parking lot. When that "Jiffy Lube" photographer waters down the pool when they don't even know what a "photo shoot" really is, then that reflects on every other person who may be a real photographer. Get it now? Again, you're having a real difficulty following analogies for some reason.Again, it doesn't really matter. If a client hires a photographer without seeing some sort of a portfolio, then that specific client is a fucking moron and deserves whatever they get. But if they see a portfolio and that is what they are looking for, who are you to say that they are wrong to use the "Jiffy Lube" photographer.
Why would it suck to be me? Because I don't whore myself out? Because I don't go around bragging about mediocre work? Because I spend countless hours researching and refining my interest? Cool....then I guess I suck then....I agree with you, if I sell a flooded car without informing the client of said damage, then yes, I am a no good piece of garbage...BUT we are not selling cars here, we are selling photography...and like I said above, if a client hires me without seeing my work, they are a moron, but chances are, they will (or won't) hire me after seeing my work, and if my work is the type of thing that they are looking for at the price they are looking for, sucks to be you.
Wannabe photographers that whore themselves out for less than a crack baby in downtown Atlanta are the ones that truly suck. They not only turn out crappy work for free, but they set a precedent for the rest of the real photographers out there to have to follow if they want work.
It's the same argument. You're the only one that doesn't seem to get it.Now you are going off track. You guys were making this argument as professional photographers, not hobbyists...which one is it?
Totally false. If people wouldn't ask for whores, the whores would go do something else. Right or wrong? Well, the same thing with these people who want a product that normally costs money, but starving artists do for free.I don't deny that there are millions of ads looking for free work right now, but that's the thing, they are looking for FREE work and there are people out there willing to do it free. You are not losing any business there because the people from those ads are willing to take the lesser quality for the reduced price. If the free work wasn't available, I can guarantee you, 99% of those people looking for photographers would not be looking.
Losing business? You don't seem to get it. If wannabes wouldn't stoop down to do work for FREE all the time, then people would have only 2 choices: PAY a fair rate for their needs, or do it themselves. That's really the bottom line. You really think that if a company NEEDS photographs that suddenly when they can't get them for free they'll simply scrap the idea???? You're fooling yourself. If they NEED photographs, then they NEED photographs. There is a BIG difference between NEED and WANT. It's one thing to play around with your buddies and take pics for the fun of it and it's totally another to bid on a job only to lose it to someone willing to do it for FREE.
I already challenged you to tell me what you do. What if whatever it is that you do, for a living, to keep food on your table, to pay your rent, even if it's just partial is suddenly up for "competition" with someone who is willing to do it for FREE???? How would YOU feel then? Would that bum off the street who only wants crack money and probably doesn't know how to do YOUR JOB any better than you be such a bargain to anyone but YOUR BOSS???? I mean, you're all about "competition", right? That's competition in your book, right? So how would YOU feel if your boss told you tomm that you are losing your job to a BUM simply because the BUM is willing to do YOUR job for FREE???? Would you still be all ho-hum about it then? Doubt it.
According to you that is just "competition" and you should just "get over it".I don't even know how to respond to this. We started out discussing people asking for free stuff and others giving them free stuff. Now you are talking about stealing.
Whatever. Do what you want. Even WHORES charge for their services. If you want to be LESS than even a WHORE, then good for you.
That was a phone shoot not a photo shoot.ok when i worked for S&W automotive i took pictures with my blackjack phone of parts we had at the junkyard to post for sale here on IA(yes i was a sponsor)
so i HAVE done a photoshoot! and it was with a phone!!!!
HA! you cant keep me down son!
what! what!
Doing work for free is a whole different thread topic that will get heated, lol. It doesn't matter the quality, doing something for free lowers the value of everyone else doing it.
My Integra is valued at $6 to 7k, if everyone started selling the same model for $2,000 what do you think the value of my car would be? No longer $6k because nobody would want to pay that. What if everyone started giving them away, even if they barely ran but they worked, then what would the value of mine be?
I'm guilty of it too but take pride in your work and charge for it.
Plus, can anyone tell me why people are not allowed to promote labor on Import Atlanta? That's simple, it steals business from the sponsors.
dont hate! LOLThat was a phone shoot not a photo shoot.
i took a PHOTO with my phone to promote something commercial.
i did a photoshoot and nobodys taking it away from me
lol, if anybody else makes a car pic thread labeled with the words "photo shoot" after this thread they need to be banned
How the fuck are YOU not getting this? YES...a car can be cleaned up and LOOK the part of a good car, but it is different with photography. If a client looks at a portfolio and likes what they see and like the price they see, then they will hire the photographer and in return get pictures on par with what was seen in the portfolio. What they saw in the portfolio is what the photographer replicates and what the client gets in return. There is no way to disguise that. Your analogy sucks and is irrelevant here. Now if a photographer shows a portfolio filled with some other photographer's pictures and sells the client on that and the client receives said "flood car" pictures, then sure, your analogy holds true. I mean, you must have work with some retarded clients if you were hired before sharing some past work.
A Jiffy Lube attendant has never been and will never be ASKED to be a mechanic. When your engine needs a rebuild, you don't go to Jiffy Lube, you go to a real shop. All a Jiffy Lube attendant is asked to be able to do is remove a drain plug and filter, put them back in, and then fill car back up with oil. They're not PRETENDING to be something else, they are oil changers, that's it. See you are getting into something completely different AGAIN. We were not talking about amateur photographers calling themselves hot shot photographers, we are talking about a person (who otherwise wouldn't pay for it if it were the only option) asking for a free photoshoot and a guy with a camera agreeing to do it free to gain experience.
You are right, I am having real difficulty following analogies...that happens when the analogy given doesn't have a fuckin thing to do with the topic at hand.
If you had read what I said, what I was saying that if for example: say there is a client shopping around and picks you and I (just using examples...I'm not a photographer) as the 2 photographers to choose from for a job. They look at both our portfolios and our quotes...say yours is $3,000 and mine is $1,000 (or even free, it doesn't matter). Now your pictures are twice as good as mine and the client sees that. If the client decides, "I would rather have the mediocre pics for a 1/3 of the price", then that is when it sucks to be you...not in a spiteful way, but in the way that now I got the job and you didn't...you have to admit, it would suck.Why would it suck to be me? Because I don't whore myself out? Because I don't go around bragging about mediocre work? Because I spend countless hours researching and refining my interest? Cool....then I guess I suck then....
You don't seem to grasp that you are dealing with 2 completely different markets in a case like this. There is the market where a client wants a top quality product and is willing to pay for it and there is a market where the client is looking for a mediocre product for next to nothing. Do you think that if tomorrow all these Rebel/D80 toting amateurs disappeared that all of a sudden all these people looking for free work would be beating down your door to pay your prices? No...and if you do, you need a reality check.
No, I am the only one with the fuckin' balls to speak out against one of IA's "well-knowns" or OGs.
The whores you speak of is a result of the concept of demand. You remember economics from high school right? The whores are there because there are people out there that want cheap fucky fucky. If the demand was not there, the whores wouldnt be either. It just so happens that with DSLRs coming down in price, amateur photographers were given a be a whore license for REALLY cheap and the people who never thought they would ever want a whore because of the price are now saying Well shit, I never had a whore before, but theres hookers doing it for nothing/free, let me try it. You being the high dollar 5th Avenue escort that you are loses no business to it because the aforementioned whores and clients are in a market of their own.
So what you are saying now is that not only can I not offer to take pictures for some random people for free anymore, but when a buddy shows up at my house asking me to help him change his clutch, I have to tell him to fuck off and take it to shop X down the street because the photographic elitists on IA said I was stealing shop Xs business. You have never seen Tracy come on here and ask people to stop fixing friends cars because their shop is losing business, not have you seen Eminodagreat (I think) come on here and tell you not to install a turbo kit for your little brother because they need the money to make rent this month. Get fucking real, dude.
I manage the online inventory for an automotive dealership. I can GUARANTEE you that there are PLENTY of people out there that can do my job for MUCH less than I am willing to do it for, but my boss has confidence in me and has the piece of mind that he can go WEEKS without seeing me and know that my shit is going to get done and get done right so he is willing to pay more money to keep me there much like you showing your portfolio to someone and then hiring you based of the work you can do. If you are losing business to there free phitgraphers or whores, then maybe you are just not that good. Maybe the people who have told you that you are good dont really know what they are talking about. MAYBE the services you have to offer are not worth the price you are asking.
I was recently looking for a photographer for my wedding and I came across this one guy that charges $25,000 to do a wedding. I thought that was outrageous, but I called for shits and giggle to hear what it is that they do. My wedding date was over a year away and this photographer was booked the weekend of my wedding and well as every other weekend that month? Do you think he is on a forum somewhere whining like a little bitch about people shooting for free?
NOBODY IS FUCKING STEALING. THE PEOPLE ASKING FOR SHIT FOR FREE WOULD NOT PAY FOR IT IF THE FREE SHIT WASNT THERE, THEY WOULD JUST GO WITHOUT, THUS AFFECTING YOU IN NO WAY.According to you that is just "competition" and you should just "get over it".
Just so it is clear I am making an argument for the principle, not for a personal stake that I have in the situation.Whatever. Do what you want. Even WHORES charge for their services. If you want to be LESS than even a WHORE, then good for you.
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What a silly argument lol. IMO paid=photoshoot If you are a true photographer your work will stand out against the rest and you will get paid well for it....magazines are not going to hire the "hacks" and its not like anyone is paying loads of money for personal use photos.
This thread makes no sense. Photo shoot = taking a series of pictures, whether it's professional or not.
I find it funny how self-proclaimed "artists" don't understand what art is...
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Prove it. Multiple people have quoted the EXACT definition of "photo shoot" and it has nothing to do with it being by a professional or not or being a series of photographs. Professional means payed, simple as that. "Photo shoot" ONLY pertains to the fashion industry or commercial advertising. Taking a series of snap shots of cars or any other subject does not constitute a photo shoot.This thread makes no sense. Photo shoot = taking a series of pictures, whether it's professional or not.
I find it funny how self-proclaimed "artists" don't understand what art is...
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They do and they will continue to as their advertising budgets continue to get cut. I GAVE Konig a photo that was valued at well over $5,000 after they published full page ads in 3+ of the largest import automotive magazines. I am that hack 10 months after buying a DSLR just because I wanted to get published. I see what I did as stealing from a professional photographer. That was the first and last time I've done something commercial for free.
And why does it bother you so much? Is the improper use of the word threatening your career?
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a hooker taking a picture of her poo-nana is a photoshoot right?
the problem with the photography business is that everyone thinks they are a "photographer"
its so easy, costs maybe $3000 to start up with camera,lenses, maybe Photoshop and you can have your own Photography Business.
I mean there is almost ZERO overhead because you dont need to rent a building, you can go on LOCATION.
Its appealing, and its a FAD thats in right now for whatever reason.
Problem is, the people that say they are photographers to act cool, dont understand it from the PROFESSIONAL photographers that use that business to make a living.
Just like you have REAL SHOPS that work on cars, then you have the "backyard mechanic" that essentially on paper does the "same work" for much cheaper, but you know its not going to be as quality as a REAL SHOP. A REAL SHOP has overhead, equipment, training, techs, accounting software, etc
a BACKYARD MECHANIC has a garage, and he is his only employee.
The backyard mechanic will take business from the REAL SHOP, and that used to bother me, but now i say, if people want to pay less, then fuck em, you werent getting their business anyway.
I also think that alot of people charge way too much with a portfolio that is not that great. And alot of people arent going to pay some 22 year old kid off Importatlanta.com $1000 for some pics of their $2000 civic, sorry.
FYI My oldest sister runs her own photography business and its tough, there is ALOT of competiton. You just have to pick a reasonable price and stick to it.
this is her site
http://www.jenniferbrooksphoto.com/
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I dont think the misuse of the term photoshoot is the issue after all it is just a "word" the fact that there are decent photographers doing work for free is growing every day that manufacturers put out affordable dSLRs. This bothers me as well....if you are offering your service do not do it for free. Even if you are just trying to put together a portfolio free is not an option.
No, it's you that's not getting it at all.
There are plenty of people out there that walk the walk and talk the talk, but aren't. That's my point. So I used the analogy of a POS car that LOOKS "OK" but really isn't where as another one IS "OK" but has to compete with the POS one BECAUSE to laymen it LOOKS just like the good one. Get it now? Probably not.
You must love going off on tangents. What does past work and portfolios have to do with people not knowing the first thing about photography? Anybody can have what THEY call a portfolio. Anybody can get a business card with their name on it. Anybody can play the part. Problem comes in when those same know-nothings ruin it for everyone else that takes it seriously.I mean, you must have work with some retarded clients if you were hired before sharing some past work.
You really don't get it, do you?A Jiffy Lube attendant has never been and will never be ASKED to be a mechanic. When your engine needs a rebuild, you don't go to Jiffy Lube, you go to a real shop. All a Jiffy Lube attendant is asked to be able to do is remove a drain plug and filter, put them back in, and then fill car back up with oil. They're not PRETENDING to be something else, they are oil changers, that's it. See you are getting into something completely different AGAIN.
YOU may think a Jiffy Lube guy is not a mechanic....I may think he's no mechanic.....but plenty of people out there DO BECAUSE he dresses the part and talks the part. I have personally seen customers walk into the shop with "print outs" and "recommendations" from one-stop oil change places with everything from brakes to full blown engines. They actually do give out that kind of "advice". They actually get people to buy all kinds of things they don't need just because they thought these guys KNEW what they were talking about.
So it is YOU that once AGAIN don't get it. These same yahoos that recommend brakes to people that clearly don't need them are the same ones that people glob together with REAL mechanics when they talk about horror stories to their friends. This is how people who PLAY the part ruin it for those that don't. Get it now? AGAIN, probably not.
Ummm, that's exactly what I've been talking about. I have no clue where you've been.We were not talking about amateur photographers calling themselves hot shot photographers, we are talking about a person (who otherwise wouldn't pay for it if it were the only option) asking for a free photoshoot and a guy with a camera agreeing to do it free to gain experience.
Where do you think these people GET the idea to ask for a free photo shoot? From those same guys that buy a camera today and call themselves photographers tomm. That is what I mean by ruining it for others.
It's not my fault you can't follow clear logic.You are right, I am having real difficulty following analogies...that happens when the analogy given doesn't have a fuckin thing to do with the topic at hand.
If you had read what I said, what I was saying that if for example: say there is a client shopping around and picks you and I (just using examples...I'm not a photographer) as the 2 photographers to choose from for a job. They look at both our portfolios and our quotes...say yours is $3,000 and mine is $1,000 (or even free, it doesn't matter). Now your pictures are twice as good as mine and the client sees that. If the client decides, "I would rather have the mediocre pics for a 1/3 of the price", then that is when it sucks to be you...not in a spiteful way, but in the way that now I got the job and you didn't...you have to admit, it would suck.
People want perfect pics at a rock bottom price. No fault there. Problem lies when that rock bottom price is ZERO. It is impossible to compete with, and therefore JUST LIKE I'VE BEEN SAYING, so it's not really "competition" at all.
Oh, I grasp it. Let's see if YOU do.......You don't seem to grasp that you are dealing with 2 completely different markets in a case like this. There is the market where a client wants a top quality product and is willing to pay for it and there is a market where the client is looking for a mediocre product for next to nothing.
Name those markets. Come on, give me a tangible example of someone that YOU know that is willing to SETTLE for mediocracy in the name of saving a buck. Go ahead....enlighten me.
#1. You don't know anything about me nor my "prices".Do you think that if tomorrow all these Rebel/D80 toting amateurs disappeared that all of a sudden all these people looking for free work would be beating down your door to pay your prices? No...and if you do, you need a reality check.
#2. I do PLENTY of free work for my friends. The catch is that I neither post it up, nor do I call it a photoshoot.
#3. I also learned the hard way that doing stuff for free or for "your portfolio" or "in contemplation of future work" ONLY benefits the person GETTING the pics. In other words, I screwed myself by working for HOURS and sometimes DAYS only to see my pics benefit only them. I got shafted. Cool. But that's why I'm saying what I am, not out of jealousy as you are trying to imply, but out of experience from getting the shaft.
Remind me to give you a cookie later.....No, I am the only one with the fuckin' balls to speak out against one of IA's "well-knowns" or OGs.
Obviously you weren't paying attention in aforementioned Economics class. The same way demand works to dictate market price, so does SUPPLY. That is what I'm speaking of here. SUPPLY, not DEMAND.The whores you speak of is a result of the concept of demand. You remember economics from high school right? The whores are there because there are people out there that want cheap fucky fucky. If the demand was not there, the whores wouldnt be either. It just so happens that with DSLRs coming down in price, amateur photographers were given a be a whore license for REALLY cheap and the people who never thought they would ever want a whore because of the price are now saying Well shit, I never had a whore before, but theres hookers doing it for nothing/free, let me try it. You being the high dollar 5th Avenue escort that you are loses no business to it because the aforementioned whores and clients are in a market of their own.
Bottomline still stands......even a WHORE charges for her services.
If your buddy would start advertising as shade tree shop and come to me and not a real shop......I bet they'd have a problem with that.So what you are saying now is that not only can I not offer to take pictures for some random people for free anymore, but when a buddy shows up at my house asking me to help him change his clutch, I have to tell him to fuck off and take it to shop X down the street because the photographic elitists on IA said I was stealing shop Xs business. You have never seen Tracy come on here and ask people to stop fixing friends cars because their shop is losing business, not have you seen Eminodagreat (I think) come on here and tell you not to install a turbo kit for your little brother because they need the money to make rent this month. Get fucking real, dude.
Ohhhh, I see......Economics.....Supply and Demand.....what's wrong with doing things for less.....must suck to be you.....only applies to everyone else and not YOU, huh???? What's good for the goose is not for the gander in your world too????I manage the online inventory for an automotive dealership. I can GUARANTEE you that there are PLENTY of people out there that can do my job for MUCH less than I am willing to do it for, but my boss has confidence in me and has the piece of mind that he can go WEEKS without seeing me and know that my shit is going to get done and get done right so he is willing to pay more money to keep me there much like you showing your portfolio to someone and then hiring you based of the work you can do. If you are losing business to there free phitgraphers or whores, then maybe you are just not that good. Maybe the people who have told you that you are good dont really know what they are talking about. MAYBE the services you have to offer are not worth the price you are asking.
So you admit that someone can replace you for less, yet it doesn't "suck to be you"???? So you admit that doing a job well is worth MORE than doing it mediocre, yet you're ok with saying that I'm crazy for saying the same thing. Do you also bend spoons with your mind in your parallel world?????
This is exactly why I asked what YOU did for a living. I knew when it was turned around to something YOU do.......Ohhhhh, well now THAT is different......forget MY logic about YOU getting shafted......I wanna get PAID for what I do and I'm worth every penny......
I'm going to let that slide for now, but you may want to watch what you say. If you want to change this to personal, I'll be glad to go there with you if you want.Do you think he is on a forum somewhere whining like a little bitch about people shooting for free?
You're right about something finally. They would certainly not ask for free if free wasn't out there. You're finally right. The second part is where you're wrong. Name me what situation is out there where pics were required and then suddenly scrapped because they suddenly realized they had to pay for those pics. Weddings? Ummm, no. Advertising? Ummm, no. Magazines? Ummm, no. Websites? Ummmm, no. Name them. All these places where people suddenly scrap the idea of pics when they have to pay. Name them. If they NEED pics, they NEED pics.NOBODY IS FUCKING STEALING. THE PEOPLE ASKING FOR SHIT FOR FREE WOULD NOT PAY FOR IT IF THE FREE SHIT WASNT THERE, THEY WOULD JUST GO WITHOUT, THUS AFFECTING YOU IN NO WAY.
Bottomline is this, and I'm not going to keep the pissing contest here unless you want me to.......you want to give value and merit to YOUR WORK, yet you don't want to give that same value nor merit to what others do. That's bullshit and convenient.
IF your boss came in and told you tomm that you are no longer needed because some bum is going to do your job for free, would you be as complacent? What about your experience? What about your performance? Screw it all.....right? Boss says "screw you" because this numb nut is going to do it for free, so that's just basic Economics....right? Supply and Demand??? Would you say that it "sucks to be you" then????? Doubt it.
I've decided I am not going to keep going back and forth with you. You clearly don't seem to get what I am saying and I think I can live with that...I know I'm right and that's all I need.
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~opens beer~ Oh come on, I was just getting entertained.
And I actually noticed yesterday that a lot of forums call pictures of cars "Photo Shoots". It is a sad day.
What is photography, and what is the answer to life the universe and everything.
Why don't you contribute instead of sitting back?
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I have already stated my opinion and agree with Jaime. He is doing just fine on his own and I agree with what he has said so far so no need for me to jump in.
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A photo shoot is generally used in the fashion industry, whereby a model poses for a photographer at a studio where multiple photos are taken to find the best ones for the required brief. A model is not always a person however there are sometimes when a photo shoot of a food for a magazine is done showing characteristics for commercial use .
so if i take pictures of jessica simpson for a cd cover in the garden thats in the back yard her bazillion dollar house, i want to make that clear that is NOT a photo shoot.
yes i was getting paid, yes it was planned ahead, yes i took many hours in set-up, yes it was used to promote her as a artist but it was not in a studio so it isnt a photo shoot.
im sorry its a tad silly to me, but it is what it is. thats the definition of it and theres no point in arguing over it.
It is pretty silly. Trying to define such a general term. The elitists shall define it how they wish. I really dont care. Its a word. Theres plenty of other words being slung around here that need such an accurate definition. Wanna ban me for using it the wrong way, be my guest. Im bout to do a photoshoot of my sack here in a minute and post it up in car pics
This thread is like the Gravina Island Bridge.
thats life, its like saying obama is black or HKS exhaust is JDM or a 2000 honda civic coupe is a EK or putting silva badges on a 240 thats had a RHD conversion.
it is what it is and its not changing.
a really bad ass 240sx with a rhd conversion, te37's, bride seats, stance coilovers, everything super baller parts is not not JDM cause it was made in the USA, its still a 240sx which is not JDM at all
its the same thing, somewhat. by definition a photo shoot is what i posted in bold. just like that 240 is not jdm at all, not one bit.
now if i have a paid shoot like the G and Z club, ill still cal that a photo shoot, am i wrong? yes. do i give a fuck? no. do other people give a fuck? maybe, maybe not, i dont care.
and tha 240 is JDM as fawk in my eyes too, even though its not
ok my head hurts
i just want to put it out there that i was just booked for a photoshoot with a car.
yes it will be used to promote a company
hahahahahaaaaaa
photo shoot with a car!!!! nah nah a boo boo!!!!
Whatever lol.
no really guys LOL if im taking pictures of the shop car to be used for advertisement for the shop then its a photoshoot right? dont deny me of this pleasure!!!!!
ok ok. You can call it a CAR shoot. hahaha
The photo gods have spoken
If I take my car, and a cheap digital camera to some place to take pics, I just did a photoshoot. Plain and simple.
You can call it whatever you want. Just doesn't make it so. Lolol. Later, QD.
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this thread is full of fail.
instead of correcting people on the terminology, I'd prefer to see more critique. I am incredibly sick of seeing people's photo threads get responses like "sick pics dawg", ...etc.
its really fucking annoying.
EDIT: Especially when the pictures really fucking suck.
That would involve guns
Photoshoot
The word is defined as taking photos. It is a word made from the combination of two. Its connotation should be towards the fashion industry as intended, but here is the truth, it covers a wide range of photography. Think about this, once a vehicle has 4 wheels and complies with the regulations to be defined as a "car" it is a car. There is no major regulation I am aware of for photoshoots. Yes, as Ferrari, you would be very unhappy to hear that a pinto with all its body panels missing is still a car, the same classification as a Dino and an Enzo, but that's life. Also, I understand your frustration and I see value in this thread, but if you think you are going to make IA serious and convince the members to constantly use proper terminology you have one hell of a battle ahead of you.
All that being said, I will be more careful how I use that word on the business side of my photography.
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yo guys, i did a photoshoot of my car today.
I used photolamps and everything, flash and all. It's a photoshoot. I did it for myself for free.
quit bitching, it's a fucking word.
everyone... stfu.
This is IA, it will always be responses like that. If you want anything different you will have to get on a photography site.
SenorJ, who cares.
wow dude, lololololololol. funny shit.
aren't you one of those that gets offended by the word photoshoot?
btw... stfu.
yo dawg, fer real! nice responze! +1000999This is IA, it will always be responses like that. If you want anything different you will have to get on a photography site.
SenorJ, who cares.
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