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    Default Single Lens Reflex: Nikon or Canon?

    Just a battle b/t Nikon and Canon. Vote, and post up a reason for your answer!

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    I used to have an older canon A1 SLR. Best 35mm SLR system ever. But things have changed and they went way downhill. I like the nikon D's now, and am hoping to pick up a d80 at some point.

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    Nikon for DSLR! Canon for Point and shoot.
    My opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotshot
    and post up a reason for your answer!

    Not going to happen. Ill tell ya why:


    1. 90 percent of the people wouldnt be able to tell you the difference between a CMOS and CCD and how it applies to each camera.

    2. People will support what they have blindly.

    3. 90 percent of the population will read biased reviews of cameras from the likes of Ken Rockwell and take it to heart



    Personally, Canon and Nikon are both on par with what digital photographers demand these days. Both have great quality bodies, and anyone would benefit from either.


    This coming from a Nikon owner. I love Canons just as much as Nikons. I hate to say it though, Canon needs to bring out some more juice because Nikon is pwning the dslr body market. And high iso shooting for New Nikons is no longer really an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis
    Not going to happen. Ill tell ya why:


    1. 90 percent of the people wouldnt be able to tell you the difference between a CMOS and CCD and how it applies to each camera.

    2. People will support what they have blindly.

    3. 90 percent of the population will read biased reviews of cameras from the likes of Ken Rockwell and take it to heart



    Personally, Canon and Nikon are both on par with what digital photographers demand these days. Both have great quality bodies, and anyone would benefit from either.


    This coming from a Nikon owner. I love Canons just as much as Nikons. I hate to say it though, Canon needs to bring out some more juice because Nikon is pwning the dslr body market. And high iso shooting for New Nikons is no longer really an issue.
    Agreed on the most part. How is Ken Rockwell biased? He says his best carry around everywhere camera is a Nikon D40. Yet he loves the 5D from Canon...

    I agree that Canon needs to bring some heat. I do love my Canon's and I think pound for pound and lens to lens Canon still has better lenses.

    Body war is being won pretty easily by Nikon right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinanM3atl
    Body war is being won pretty easily by Nikon right now.
    Troof.

    Sadly, I'd prolly have to concede that Canon's L-series would be some tough competition for any Nikon lens...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DinanM3atl
    I agree that Canon needs to bring some heat. I do love my Canon's and I think pound for pound and lens to lens Canon still has better lenses.

    Body war is being won pretty easily by Nikon right now.
    Couldn't agree more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis
    Canon needs to bring out some more juice because Nikon is pwning the dslr body market.
    truth

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    I agree with Nemesis entirely. I like a lot Nikon features especially there low light shooting ability.



    but I'm a cannon man lol...

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    Nikon because it fits in my sausage fingers so well

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    i will tell you i love my canon D40, as said before nikon makes mean bodies although canon lenses are uncompromisable.

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    Pretty good answers guys. close race too! I was thinking about upgrading from the D40. just tryin to hear what you guys think of each. Im seeing alot of clean shots coming out of both brands. Keep the answers coming though!

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    get either one, you'll be just as happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87 Turbo II
    get either one, you'll be just as happy.
    this could be true when speaking of d40's vs xti's, but when it gets higher end is where i disagree

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    Quote Originally Posted by james
    this could be true when speaking of d40's vs xti's, but when it gets higher end is where i disagree
    I doubt someone asking a car forum for advice with such a bad question is shopping for a D3 or 1D. Even then the differences aren't insane. A system should be base on what you're more comfortable shooting with and the lenses you want etc. Canon and nikon have gone back and fourth as top dogs for decades. 3 years ago, Canon was on top, it'll go back, then nikon again, etc. no big deal. It really DOES'NT matter. I mean, yeah, it foy'ure looking to spend $10,000 on the best body you can get and a few top notch lenses, go with the Nikon D3 a 24-70 2.8 and a 70-200 2.8 VR (for now)but seriously, we know what they're shopping for doesn't matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87 Turbo II
    I doubt someone asking a car forum for advice with such a bad question is shopping for a D3 or 1D. Even then the differences aren't insane. A system should be base on what you're more comfortable shooting with and the lenses you want etc. Canon and nikon have gone back and fourth as top dogs for decades. 3 years ago, Canon was on top, it'll go back, then nikon again, etc. no big deal. It really DOES'NT matter. I mean, yeah, it foy'ure looking to spend $10,000 on the best body you can get and a few top notch lenses, go with the Nikon D3 a 24-70 2.8 and a 70-200 2.8 VR (for now)but seriously, we know what they're shopping for doesn't matter.
    you sound a little nikon biased to me.

    and no i dont mean a 40d i mean a d40, d50, d60. the low end nikons

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    Quote Originally Posted by james
    you sound a little nikon biased to me.

    and no i dont mean a 40d i mean a d40, d50, d60. the low end nikons
    funny, I shoot Canon.

    Canon EOS 20D
    Canon EF 50 1:1.8 MK I
    Canon EF 28-70 1:3.5-4.5 MKII

    as well as a

    Canon AE-1
    Canon FD 50 1:1.8
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    Sears FD 135 1:2.8
    Vivitar 1 FD 70-210 1:2.8-4.0

    so sounding Nikon Biased is just admitting that their top end body is better than the canon top end body, but liek I said,whatever ne goes with REALLY doesn't matter.

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    D40 Canon?

    You mean Canon 40D?
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    Sony FTW! haha. i got mine for crackhead prices so it'll do until i decide i want to go professional.

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    I voted Canon, a lot of good lenses to choose from and the quality is very good.

    My first camera was a Panasonic DMC-FZ15 was great and loved the Lumix lens, but it was a DSLR-"like" camera.

    Then went with a Canon A510 to carry around instead of a large camera and it gave me a little less zoom/features. But it was good enough.

    Currently using a Canon 40D with the kit lens EF17-85mm and have a
    Sigma 17-70mm.

    Very happy with it and it gives me clear images with low noise even with dark backgrounds. I love to take night pictures and needed something that was capable of capturing the right ammount of light.

    If you are wanting to get a camera just wait there may be new ones coming out right before Christmas!

    Just waiting to see the hype about the 50D, and see if it is anything I should get rid of the 40D for. If it is, you'll see the 40D posted in the FS forums lol.

    I have not used a Nikon before though so my vote may be biased, anyone here want to let me use one for a day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JessAlba452
    I voted Canon, a lot of good lenses to choose from and the quality is very good.

    My first camera was a Panasonic DMC-FZ15 was great and loved the Lumix lens, but it was a DSLR-"like" camera.

    Then went with a Canon A510 to carry around instead of a large camera and it gave me a little less zoom/features. But it was good enough.

    Currently using a Canon 40D with the kit lens EF17-85mm and have a
    Sigma 17-70mm.

    Very happy with it and it gives me clear images with low noise even with dark backgrounds. I love to take night pictures and needed something that was capable of capturing the right ammount of light.

    If you are wanting to get a camera just wait there may be new ones coming out right before Christmas!

    Just waiting to see the hype about the 50D, and see if it is anything I should get rid of the 40D for. If it is, you'll see the 40D posted in the FS forums lol.

    I have not used a Nikon before though so my vote may be biased, anyone here want to let me use one for a day?
    I might buy it as a 2nd body... I think I am going to pull the trigger on the 50D.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DinanM3atl
    I might buy it as a 2nd body... I think I am going to pull the trigger on the 50D.
    I shoot a 40 and am slowly being drawn to the 50D. But with the D700, it's tempting to make the jump to Nikon. I've always wanted to go FF.

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    Canon, most definitely, for studio work. Wonderfully easy to manipulate quickly and extremely responsive to multiple shooting conditions. Great sensors, never have had to replace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevilK9
    Canon, most definitely, for studio work. Wonderfully easy to manipulate quickly and extremely responsive to multiple shooting conditions.

    heh..................uhm........what?



    Great sensors...never had to replace. Thats awesome Gotta remember that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis
    heh..................uhm........what?



    Great sensors...never had to replace. Thats awesome Gotta remember that one.
    You didn't know?

    Canon you never have to replace a sensor, or even a shutter for that matter!

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    If only I could get a Canon D1s MarkIII that would be great haha.

    In Japan right now and they've got a 50D test model at the Canon shop in Tokyo. The release date is late Sept and of course there are pre-orders.

    Need to check it out before I leave just to compare the two cameras. Also read that there is a 12800 ISO setting. Wonder how that would look?

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    Not to mislead, but Canon Kit Lenses < Nikon Kit lenses.


    Nikon tosses ED glass into its kits, while Canon does not toss in top quality glass in with theirs. Just FYI. Purely informative post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis
    but Canon Kit Lenses < Nikon Kit lenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by james
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    no, kit lenses are $hit either way, Nikon's is just better, but still $hit. If you're using a kit lens to determin which entire brand to buy into, then use a P&S, the whole point of DSLRs is control and the ability to expand through lenses, if you buy a DSLr to only use the kit lens, the you would've been beter off with a superzoom P&S with manual controls. The exact oppostie of end of thread, if that staement is the end of the thread for you, then end of photography for you should be just around the corner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87 Turbo II
    no, kit lenses are $hit either way, Nikon's is just better, but still $hit. If you're using a kit lens to determin which entire brand to buy into, then use a P&S, the whole point of DSLRs is control and the ability to expand through lenses, if you buy a DSLr to only use the kit lens, the you would've been beter off with a superzoom P&S with manual controls. The exact oppostie of end of thread, if that staement is the end of the thread for you, then end of photography for you should be just around the corner.

    **** in what aspect? Do you even know what you are talking about?

    Do you consider them **** because they have a plastic body and not magnesium? How do you classify a lens as ****?

    Personally if a lens can produce sharpness at full crop, with no fringing or chromatic abberation, then Id say its good lens. A lens is **** if it flares, is soft at all stops, and fringes like a mad man. ALL ED LEVEL NIKON KIT LENSES ARE SHARP. Im not talking about the junk 70-300 crap that are bundled in. Dont make blanket statements like that if you dont know what you are talking about or dont want to back it up with some evidence. All ED level kit lenses I have seen or used have been extremely great lenses. Saying that someone that has a kit lens in their bag is reaching the end of their photography career is an idiotic and pompous response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis
    **** in what aspect? Do you even know what you are talking about?

    Do you consider them **** because they have a plastic body and not magnesium? How do you classify a lens as ****?

    Personally if a lens can produce sharpness at full crop, with no fringing or chromatic abberation, then Id say its good lens. A lens is **** if it flares, is soft at all stops, and fringes like a mad man. ALL ED LEVEL NIKON KIT LENSES ARE SHARP. Im not talking about the junk 70-300 crap that are bundled in. Dont make blanket statements like that if you dont know what you are talking about or dont want to back it up with some evidence. All ED level kit lenses I have seen or used have been extremely great lenses. Saying that someone that has a kit lens in their bag is reaching the end of their photography career is an idiotic and pompous response.
    Yeah, saying anyone with a kit lens in their bag sucks at photography would be dumb to say. Good thing I didn't say that. I said that buying a camera JUST for its kit lens and planning to ONLY use the kit lens wouldn't take them very far, and would be a waste of money. How could you let a kit lens determine your WHOLE system is what I was asking. Generally kit lenses are worse than most of the other lenses in the system ,short of the 70-300 4.5-5.6, 18-55 3.5-5.6, and 28-70 4.5-5.6 cheapos in all the systems which are utterly bad. Kit lenses feel cheap, don't focus as fast, have narrow apertures, and generally will produce a few optical problems. Lately Canon, Nikon, and Pentax have been dishing out decently sharp kit lenses, but they are generally not as contrasty, quick to focus, and DEFINITELY don't have the build of their more expensive siblings. Personally, kit lenses can be used to start off well, but I'd rather buy a camera body with no lens, and then buy a good prime to start with, such as the undeniably good and cheap 50mm 1.8 lenses.

    All that aside, I'd rather start with the camera the meets my needs the most, and a crappier optic lens then when I am going to buy better lenses later on anyway. And if you don't plan on buying any lenses in addition to the kit lens, THEN you've wasted your money on a camera that can change lenses.

    It'd be like saying "I'm more comfortable with Canon camweras, flashes, I've used them and liek the menu layout, Love the L-series lenses and I really think the camera body feels better in my hands. But I bought a Nikon cause the kit lens was better."
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    Canon L lenses are FTW though! LoL

    I know it's not a kit lense, but would be great if they were!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JessAlba452
    Canon L lenses are FTW though! LoL

    High end Nikon ED glass is nothing to laugh at either.

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    Im impressed with Nikon D80. I want one

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    Nice answers guys! I am definitly lookin to upgrade from this D40. a new 1D MkIII would be nice (21mp!!!!) But i dont have that kinda money layin around for a camera just yet. Something sub-$1500 for the body cause its only me shooting for fun (for now) Just fishin for opinions about what yall like about either camera.

    Nemesis, you own both brands, correct?

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    well put

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    Nemesis is making this thread really interesting and informative.. keep it up guys..
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    They're both damned good cameras. Anyone who taken a lot of pictures, knows you can't really pick one over the other, or even rationalize why one is better than the other. It's simply a matter of personal preference, and they're both top tier in the DSLR market.

    My personal preference is Canon, but only because the user interface doesn't seem quite as friendly comparatively, and it reminds me somewhat of how the Mac OS works. Although I'm sure the Nikon interface is perfectly fine once you get used to it.

    I'd really go either way. When I get my next camera, I will be looking at both manufacturers products very closely.

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