who holds more self control? (believers/nonbelievers)

[Xan]

that is the dumbest shit in the world... material possesions don't dictate personal politics... just b/c i drive a VW doesn't mean i'm a nazi. thats like seeing someone w/ iron cross shirt like a O.C.C. shirt... they must be racist to be wearing that shirt :jerkit: ... i guess all christians wear crosses then to be offensive to non christians. lol

so what your saying is next time i see a person wearing a jesus shirt i should walk up to them cross examine them then proceed to tell them i hope you burn in your own hell for being a dumb cunt. thanx enjoy the movie.

First off, VW's don't represent Nazi's. Second, whose to say if someone wearing an iron cross shirt isn't racist. Have you asked them? You had on a shirt stating "eye hate god." Am I not supposed to believe you feel that way? Since you think all Christians are "dumb cunts" I'm going to assume you do. It's that, "If you don't want people to think you're a whore, don't dress like one." If personal possesions don't dictate personal politics, why are you so pissy about it. Anything Christian pisses you off. Otherwise you wouldn't have started this thread. You're so caught up in your "God sucks" and "Christians are dumb cunts" that you can't take 5 minutes to see it from their point of view. If you can't sympathise with their situation and try seeing things as they do; why should they give two shits about how you see it? Hell, if your so "unreligious", why does that "dumb cunt's" opinion even matter?

[4dmin]

First off, VW's don't represent Nazi's.

Prototypes of the car called the KdF-Wagen (German: Kraft durch Freude = strength through joy; the car was so called because it was intended to be sold to members of the KdF, a Nazi leisure organization),

^ try reading; you obviously don't know much about the rumor'd history of vw

Second, whose to say if someone wearing an iron cross shirt isn't racist. Have you asked them?

ok so every biker is racist then... ok good generalization that was the #2 dumbest statement you've made.

You had on a shirt stating "eye hate god." Am I not supposed to believe you feel that way?

i guess i forgot christians believe everything they read how can i hate something i don't believe in, and why would an obvious band Tshirt consitute a religious discussion. if you could read you can see the band name is obviously "EYEHATEGOD" not "I hate God"... hmm engrish please.

If personal possesions don't dictate personal politics, why are you so pissy about it. Anything Christian pisses you off. Otherwise you wouldn't have started this thread. You're so caught up in your "God sucks" and "Christians are dumb cunts" that you can't take 5 minutes to see it from their point of view.

ok #3 dumb statement... you now stating i said "GOD sucks" which is far from the true how can something SUCK if i don't believe in it? i don't force my opinions on you so why would you do the same? i guess thats just the christian way. i have never once walked up to a christian and said anything derogatory about their religion. i don't know them and they dont' know me and who they bow to is not any of my concern.

Hell, if your so "unreligious", why does that "dumb cunt's" opinion even matter?

it doesn't matter it strengthens what i believe, but this isn't about opinions of religion but who has more self control... maybe you missed the topic at hand.

nice try though.

[Xan]

Prototypes of the car called the KdF-Wagen (German:

Kraft durch Freude = strength through joy; the car was so called because it was intended to be sold to members of the KdF, a Nazi leisure organization),

^ try reading; you obviously don't know much about the rumor'd history of vw

Got me there. I don't drive a VW and I don't think anyone who drives one is a Nazi. Maybe I should start asking them.


ok so every biker is racist then... ok good generalization that was the #2 dumbest statement you've made.

I never said biker's are racist. I didn't generalize that all people who wear Iron Crosses are racist. I simply stated that you won't know unless you ask.


i guess i forgot christians believe everything they read how can i hate something i don't believe in, and why would an obvious band Tshirt consitute a religious discussion. if you could read you can see the band name is obviously "EYEHATEGOD" not "I hate God"... hmm engrish please.

Christians believe everything they're taught. It is an obvious band t-shirt. As you may well know, feelings are expressed through music all the time. An "eyehategod" shirt is an obvious religious statement. What else would it be? My engrish is just fine thanks.



ok #3 dumb statement... you now stating i said "GOD sucks" which is far from the true how can something SUCK if i don't believe in it? i don't force my opinions on you so why would you do the same? i guess thats just the christian way. i have never once walked up to a christian and said anything derogatory about their religion. i don't know them and they dont' know me and who they bow to is not any of my concern.

Earlier you said I stated "all bikers are racist." Not true. We are both guilty. I'm not a Christian. I just haven't made up my mind yet on whether or not all Christians are "dumb whores" as you obviously have. What opinion did I "force" on you? What exactly was derogatory about what the girl said?


it doesn't matter it strengthens what i believe, but this isn't about opinions of religion but who has more self control... maybe you missed the topic at hand.

nice try though.

Self control had nothing to do with your encounter. It was all curiosity. She was unsure about the meaning of your shirt and what it implied. You caught on and sparked the conversation yourself. If anyone failed the self control test it was you. You knew exactly what she was going to say and already had your answers lined up for her. If I had to guess I would say this isn't the first encounter of this nature you've had.

When you say it strengthens what you believe. Do you mind if I ask what that is? You may think religious belief is for the weak minded, but it takes more self control to live your life according to an invisible man's rules than to live by your own. Restriction tests self control, not freedom.

[Hulud]

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When you say it strengthens what you believe. Do you mind if I ask what that is? You may think religious belief is for the weak minded, but it takes more self control to live your life according to an invisible man's rules than to live by your own. Restriction tests self control, not freedom.

your right, it takes more self control to live in fear

[Xan]

your right, it takes more self control to live in fear

That's a large generalization to think that ALL Christians live in fear.

[Hulud]

That's a large generalization to think that ALL Christians live in fear.

how so?
you do something that your god doesnt like and you goto hell, unless you honestly repent

[Xan]

how so?
you do something that your god doesnt like and you goto hell, unless you honestly repent

Asking forgiveness isn't that difficult is it?

[Romeyo07]

how so?
you do something that your god doesnt like and you goto hell, unless you honestly repent

That's not how it works. We'll always be in sin, its how we handle ourselves after recognizing what it is that makes the difference. Like Jesus said, "go on and sin no more", meaning that "now that you know what you've done, try not to do that again, ok?"

I have a respectful fear for God, a similar fear that a child would have with their parent. I fear my mother, not that she'd beat me, but it a respectful way understanding who she is and her value. I'm not affraid to live my life, in fact I enjoy my life very much. I really don't see a downside to being Christian.

[Hulud]

You had on a shirt stating "eye hate god." Am I not supposed to believe you feel that way? Since you think all Christians are "dumb cunts" I'm going to assume you do. It's that, "If you don't want people to think you're a whore, don't dress like one."

judging people........

[Xan]

judging people........

I didn't judge. I drew a logical conclusion from what he gave me.

[Hulud]

I didn't judge. I drew a logical conclusion from what he gave me.

you said if you dont want to be called a whore dont dress like one

so your judging someone on how they dress

[Xan]

you said if you dont want to be called a whore dont dress like one

so your judging someone on how they dress

I was using the saying as an example. I wasn't calling him a whore....you know this.

[Hulud]

I was using the saying as an example. I wasn't calling him a whore....you know this.

i didnt say you were calling HIM anything

but you used that generalization, which you no doubt have thought/said to someone before

[Xan]

i didnt say you were calling HIM anything

but you used that generalization, which you no doubt have thought/said to someone before

Everyone judges everyone else to some degree. Anyone who says they don't is lying. I tend to keep my mouth shut.