who holds more self control? (believers/nonbelievers)

[Hulud]

[b]

When you say it strengthens what you believe. Do you mind if I ask what that is? You may think religious belief is for the weak minded, but it takes more self control to live your life according to an invisible man's rules than to live by your own. Restriction tests self control, not freedom.

your right, it takes more self control to live in fear

[Xan]

your right, it takes more self control to live in fear

That's a large generalization to think that ALL Christians live in fear.

[Hulud]

That's a large generalization to think that ALL Christians live in fear.

how so?
you do something that your god doesnt like and you goto hell, unless you honestly repent

[Xan]

how so?
you do something that your god doesnt like and you goto hell, unless you honestly repent

Asking forgiveness isn't that difficult is it?

[Hulud]

Asking forgiveness isn't that difficult is it?

being honest is

i see all these "chrsitians" having pre-marital sex and i ask them "hey isnt that a sin?"
their response is, god will forgive me

cmon anyone who is a REAL christian would know that is a bullshit response

but yet i dont think i have ever met a REAL christian in my life

[Xan]

being honest is

i see all these "chrsitians" having pre-marital sex and i ask them "hey isnt that a sin?"
their response is, god will forgive me

cmon anyone who is a REAL christian would know that is a bullshit response

but yet i dont think i have ever met a REAL christian in my life

So can we agree that being a "True" Christian is much more difficult and requires much more self control than "there is no God. I do what I want?"

I know I couldn't do it. I'm way too lazy.

[Romeyo07]

how so?
you do something that your god doesnt like and you goto hell, unless you honestly repent

That's not how it works. We'll always be in sin, its how we handle ourselves after recognizing what it is that makes the difference. Like Jesus said, "go on and sin no more", meaning that "now that you know what you've done, try not to do that again, ok?"

I have a respectful fear for God, a similar fear that a child would have with their parent. I fear my mother, not that she'd beat me, but it a respectful way understanding who she is and her value. I'm not affraid to live my life, in fact I enjoy my life very much. I really don't see a downside to being Christian.

[4dmin]

That's not how it works. We'll always be in sin, its how we handle ourselves after recognizing what it is that makes the difference. Like Jesus said, "go on and sin no more", meaning that "now that you know what you've done, try not to do that again, ok?"

I have a respectful fear for God, a similar fear that a child would have with their parent. I fear my mother, not that she'd beat me, but it a respectful way understanding who she is and her value. I'm not affraid to live my life, in fact I enjoy my life very much. I really don't see a downside to being Christian.

premarital sex is good for this... people do it all the time and i can't see how you can honestly be forgiven for something you continue to do knowly you are sinning and you will continue to. you aren't looking for forgiveness if your are in a unchanging cycle of sin.

[Jaimecbr900]

premarital sex is good for this... people do it all the time and i can't see how you can honestly be forgiven for something you continue to do knowly you are sinning and you will continue to. you aren't looking for forgiveness if your are in a unchanging cycle of sin.

True, but that goes along with every other sin: Lying, cheating, stealing, etc. We all know it's wrong to do those things, but still "mess up" and do them over and over again.

[4dmin]

True, but that goes along with every other sin: Lying, cheating, stealing, etc. We all know it's wrong to do those things, but still "mess up" and do them over and over again.

umm but there is a big difference in truely TRYING not to do something and doing it anyway. most people don't even see premariatal sex as a sin.