Well said
Some serious stuff here. I love listening to other people's beliefs... It helps in understanding what is right and wrong. I think bottom line, it comes down to what you personally believe in your heart. I know that Jesus saved me and He is the only way for me. He provides for everything in my life and TO HIM BE THE GLORY in all things. but I like hearing what other people have to say. I like the way my religion post is being censored!!!
Jeremiah
Last edited by holy mini; 06-08-2006 at 02:46 AM.
guess that's why he's a nUb huh?
guess so LOLOriginally Posted by absoludely
guess that's why he's a nUb huh?
Val for President
Nice discussion.
I agree with Baby J to an extent, believe it or not.
The only fault I find with his viewpoint is that he seems (correct me if I'm wrong) to be globbing ALL "RELIGIONS", especially Christianity, into the same mixing bowl.
Personally, I think that spirituality is a pesonal thing. Regardless if you go to church 100 times a week or never. WHAT you believe in is infinitely more important than WHERE you believe it IMO.
In other words, there are religions (including Christians) that blindly follow the preacher/rabbi/leader/etc without ever using their own brains to think for themselves and research what they are hearing. If it doesn't make sense to you, why follow it? If it does, why not?
Some people choose to ignore things, some choose not to believe things. That is completely and 100% their perrogative. Those people also need to understand, and more importantly respect, that there are MORE people that disagree with their religious point of view. It is inevitable. As a matter of fact, if you read the Bible, it tells you THAT is the way it has ALWAYS been. The minority trying to convince the majority. It is simply the way it is. Our job is merely to profess what we feel to be true in our hearts when called upon. After that it is the job of the listener to CHOOSE what to do with that information. It really is that basic at it's core.
You listen, you choose. Easy enough. Both sides have consequences. You just have to choose which one works for you.
I am a noob, and proud of it... But even down the road, I will still talk about my car club as it is a big part of my life... It is also a part of my faith and my ministry. I wish there was not censorship (or editing) in the religion posts, but I respect that.
now that that's said... lets get to the discussion...
I also believe 100% that it never matters where you believe or what you are classified as in religious terms, cause it does come down to your personal ideas and mindset. I feel sorry for people that believe things just cause someone puts up a good argument and sells them on an idea... It take conviction and personal experiences to create your ideas... Some times when we just follow the motions of life we get caught up in a routeen and never grow (mentally or spiritually).
Welp just my 2 cents...
nice post, +1
VERY well said. Some1 who sees where I am coming from. I perfer to be TAUGHT that scared. I can "scare" some1 into smoking crack, that doesn't mean that it's a good thing. Those preachers have a "gimmick"... rather than fear HELL and abide, I'd rather be GOD-fearing and abide. 2 totally different concepts --> a lot of preachers are missing the mark.
"I'm not a gynecologist... but I'll take a look."
A lot of negative stigma that surrounds "religion" comes from those misinterpreted deliveries.
If you visit a "church" and see this preacher up behind a pulpit, slamming down a bible, screaming, turning red, and saying you either change/repent/or you'll go to HELL!!!! It leaves the wrong impression about what God really teaches, although again technically the message is right.
There is a time and a place where every single Christian will be tested about their faith. Those times are the times where black and white, right and wrong, and what you TRULY believe in will HAVE to show. If it gets heated THEN, so be it. But you shouldn't go around slamming Bibles into people's faces all the time to get results. Our job is to learn and teach, period. It is not to condemn people for not agreeing with us, that is judging and only one can do that.
nicely put!
grand prix.....
Hell I had faith Pat Robertson was in that helicopter. But did God come through? Fuck no. Bitch
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