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but see that is your flaw it wasn't/isn't a christian holiday... as i stated before it was a chance for the church to change a pagan holiday to suit their needs.

so you are still worshiping a pagan holiday like it or not... that is the fact. which is fine its a tradition thing, leave it at that... just like turkey on thanksgiving. its tradition. do i think you celebrate b/c your excited about the death of the indians? no its tradition for family to get together. as i said before if it was a christian holiday then non christians wouldn't celebrate it and it wouldn't be about greed.

No, we would be celebrating the birth of Christ which was conveniantly placed on that day since noone knew the exact date. Its a celebration of an event not a date.