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    I suppose we should ask why Christians exchange gifts ... considering the fact that the actual celebrating (gifts, parties, mistletoe, etc.) has pagan roots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Decker1.8t
    I suppose we should ask why Christians exchange gifts ... considering the fact that the actual celebrating (gifts, parties, mistletoe, etc.) has pagan roots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Decker1.8t
    I suppose we should ask why Christians exchange gifts ... considering the fact that the actual celebrating (gifts, parties, mistletoe, etc.) has pagan roots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Decker1.8t
    I suppose we should ask why Christians exchange gifts ... considering the fact that the actual celebrating (gifts, parties, mistletoe, etc.) has pagan roots.

    Well my question was for atheists as in doesn't believe a God period.

    And giving gifts has nothing to do with mistletoe. It's christmas. 3 wise men bringing gifts, parties to celebrate the birth of Jesus. That's where that comes from you know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1439/2000
    Well my question was for atheists as in doesn't believe a God period.

    And giving gifts has nothing to do with mistletoe. It's christmas. 3 wise men bringing gifts, parties to celebrate the birth of Jesus. That's where that comes from you know.
    actually the romans started Saturnalia which was a pagan holiday which ended on the 25th, christians later took over the holiday as the birth of their savior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    actually the romans started Saturnalia which was a pagan holiday which ended on the 25th, christians later took over the holiday as the birth of their savior.
    I understand where the day comes from. I know it was already a holiday.

    I realize that.

    The question is:

    ahem.....

    Do you give gifts? The reason they give gifts is to celebrate the birth as did the 3 wise men in the bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1439/2000
    I understand where the day comes from. I know it was already a holiday.

    I realize that.

    The question is:

    ahem.....

    Do you give gifts? The reason they give gifts is to celebrate the birth as did the 3 wise men in the bible.
    this is a dumb question and i'll tell you why....

    many would like us to believe that this holiday is for religious reasons... it is not. its is so far from christian its retarded. the entire season should be called the SEASON FOR SINNING... xmas is about corp/personl greed you exchange/recieve gifts which $ value are 100% more important then the religious aspect of it. if it was religious you would be offering nothing but gifts to god

    its is a pagan holiday turn christian holiday, only reason why is b/c it was a way to try to conform pagans... you, i, and the 99.9% of everyone else celebrates it b/c your family/friends did and you shall inherit those customs.

    xmas isn't just a holiday for christians and to say that is the reason for it is just blinding the truth w/ words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by admin
    this is a dumb question and i'll tell you why....

    many would like us to believe that this holiday is for religious reasons... it is not. its is so far from christian its retarded. the entire season should be called the SEASON FOR SINNING... xmas is about corp/personl greed you exchange/recieve gifts which $ value are 100% more important then the religious aspect of it. if it was religious you would be offering nothing but gifts to god

    its is a pagan holiday turn christian holiday, only reason why is b/c it was a way to try to conform pagans... you, i, and the 99.9% of everyone else celebrates it b/c your family/friends did and you shall inherit those customs.

    xmas isn't just a holiday for christians and to say that is the reason for it is just blinding the truth w/ words.
    It's not a "dumb" question and giving gifts isnt all just corporate whatever. Its a tradition in my family and so is going to church every Christmas too to celebrate what the season is really about. I'm sure there are other Christians that also do that stuff. You can't stereotype all Christians just like you cant stereotype other religions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1439/2000
    Christmas too to celebrate what the season is really about. I'm sure there are other Christians that also do that stuff.
    but see that is your flaw it wasn't/isn't a christian holiday... as i stated before it was a chance for the church to change a pagan holiday to suit their needs.

    so you are still worshiping a pagan holiday like it or not... that is the fact. which is fine its a tradition thing, leave it at that... just like turkey on thanksgiving. its tradition. do i think you celebrate b/c your excited about the death of the indians? no its tradition for family to get together. as i said before if it was a christian holiday then non christians wouldn't celebrate it and it wouldn't be about greed.

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