who has had a baptism?

[speedminded]

Biblical baptism is a ritual that symbolizes being crucified with Christ, putting away your old life of sin, and being raised with Christ into newness of life, walking with Him. Its done as an outward public sign of your acceptance of Christ.
BTW, baptism by sprinkling or of babies is not Biblical. Thats an adaptation of pagan practice.

There may be other definitions from other sources/religions.

Yes and No, it solely depends on the denomination (or even religion). You seem to be speaking of baptism as an immersion [as baptist churches do]. I'm going to quote this because i'm too lazy to think for myself today, " person baptized by immersion is enclosed under the water and brought out, to signify cleansing through death and burial with Christ, and consequent raising again in newness of life by the Holy Spirit."

What is your denomination or is there one you follow more than another? It sounds like you're antipaedobaptist, against aspersion and other forms of baptism outside of immersion...

[metalman]

ok so what your ultimately admiting is your going to have an agenda w/ any discussion i'm in... ok good clarification. ?

You've placed meaning upon my words which was neither implied, intended, or stated.

I have no agenda specific to you at all. I am just one of the few willing to post in here in the face of your insults and agressive nature. I am willing to be ridiculed by you if that makes you happy. Maybe I deserve it. I have insulted plenty of people in my lifetime. Your general demeanor toward christianity discourage some from posting their thoughts, beliefs, proofs etc, either intentionally or unintentionally. Just not me.

My purpose has been stated several times...I post to make people think, and for my own edification/study as well. Mainly I urge people actually study and think for themselves!

I think its highly possible, although I cannot know for sure, that one day you might even thank me for doing so. Its certainly within the realm of possibility.

Its obvious you enjoy the "game" of "one upping" via the internet, especally if you can come out on top. So I occasionally "play" that game with you in some fashion.
Face it, not many here will do that. In a former life I would have chewed you up and spitten you out like bad tobacco....I dont expect you to believe that, no one here really knows me or my history...lets just say although you may find me to be abrasive now trust me, you would have avoided any discussion with me in the past. I was NOT a nice guy or one most anyone who knew me would try "one ups" with! Those that did generally lost. I have come a long way...and if you want to say so, I still have a ways to go

I don't think youre a bad person really, as I stated in another post, I like you, I just don't agree with some of your ideas and will on occasion post accordingly to give the other side.

Theres hope for all....even you and I.

Peace!

Oh and today is my birthday and I am older then dirt so happy b-day to me

[metalman]

Yes and No, it solely depends on the denomination (or even religion). You seem to be speaking of baptism as an immersion [as baptist churches do]. I'm going to quote this because i'm too lazy to think for myself today, " person baptized by immersion is enclosed under the water and brought out, to signify cleansing through death and burial with Christ, and consequent raising again in newness of life by the Holy Spirit."

What is your denomination or is there one you follow more than another? It sounds like you're antipaedobaptist, against aspersion and other forms of baptism outside of immersion...

That would be Biblical baptism. There is only one Bible, which has one form and description of baptism. Some follow that, some dont, regardless of denomination.

I am of no demoniational affiliation.

[4dmin]

You've placed meaning upon my words which was neither implied, intended, or stated.

I have no agenda specific to you at all. I am just one of the few willing to post in here in the face of your insults and agressive nature. I am willing to be ridiculed by you if that makes you happy. Maybe I deserve it. I have insulted plenty of people in my lifetime. Your general demeanor toward christianity discourage some from posting their thoughts, beliefs, proofs etc, either intentionally or unintentionally. Just not me.

My purpose has been stated several times...I post to make people think, and for my own edification/study as well. Mainly I urge people actually study and think for themselves!

I think its highly possible, although I cannot know for sure, that one day you might even thank me for doing so. Its certainly within the realm of possibility.

Its obvious you enjoy the "game" of "one upping" via the internet, especally if you can come out on top. So I occasionally "play" that game with you in some fashion.
Face it, not many here will do that. In a former life I would have chewed you up and spitten you out like bad tobacco....I dont expect you to believe that, no one here really knows me or my history...lets just say although you may find me to be abrasive now trust me, you would have avoided any discussion with me in the past. I was NOT a nice guy or one most anyone who knew me would try "one ups" with! Those that did generally lost. I have come a long way...and if you want to say so, I still have a ways to go

I don't think youre a bad person really, as I stated in another post, I like you, I just don't agree with some of your ideas and will on occasion post accordingly to give the other side.

Theres hope for all....even you and I.

Peace!

Oh and today is my birthday and I am older then dirt so happy b-day to me

thanx for the kind words, but i am a no BS type guy i post what i want to say people can take it as they will... i'm very opinionated to people who disagree w/ me its a known fact, but you have to be strong or you will not survive sometimes what i say doesn't come out the way i want either, i have never been one for grammer thats why i'm an IT guy. the internet dulls passion/meaning/sarcasim behind words.

it is a game, this is the internet, it ultimatly is a business for me... i post invoke disucssion post create hits, hits create $. i appreciate a good discussion it kills the time clock at work

happy bday, i just celebrated my 50th in feb (long story)

[biblethumper]

Happy Birthday.

I am also non denominational

[speedminded]

I am neither judging Paul or anyone else here. For all I know he might end up in heaven at the side of Christ. I hope he does for that matter. Neither do I think he's an evil person, I actually like him, he's just confused on a few subjects that we discuss from time to time.

Confusion is thinking you can tell someone they are wrong when NOBODY ever will know who or what is right or wrong when it comes to religion.

Confusion is the 100+ contradictions in the bible. From the creation of the world to who was Jesus' father?

Confusion is trying to interpret something that was started 3,400 years ago, over 900-1,100 years passed around as stories, then written in Hebrew & Greek then into to Latin, a language it was in for nearly 1,000 years before being translated to English...

Try this, take a small group of people and whisper one sentence between each other and see what the end result is, now take that and spread it out over a thousand years...for those that live by only the bible, they are the ones that are confused.

[4dmin]

^ wow you get a * for the post of the day

[metalman]

Confusion is thinking you can tell someone they are wrong when NOBODY ever will know who or what is right or wrong when it comes to religion.

Try this, take a small group of people and whisper one sentence between each other and see what the end result is, now take that and spread it out over a thousand years...for those that live by only the bible, they are the ones that are confused.

Obviously you have no concept of how God works. Your human chain scenario doesnt work within the Kingdom of Heaven. Thats okay, I understand where you are coming from.

Also, God has clearly revealed His will and truth to ANY WHO SEEK it. Its a promise from Him that is honored EVERY TIME.
To those who never seek it or doubt it or dont care about it, etc it all only seems like confusion. Your opinion is a good example of this...along with admins. Youre both entitled to your opinions no matter how incorrect it may be.

I shudder to think how those who doubt Gods Word will feel when the day comes that He reveals Himself in His Glory...hmm.......I already have a pretty good idea and description of that...and its not a positive one. The despair and regret that many will feel will be beyond description. Its not nessessary that anyone experience that. Its all about choice.

For ANY who honestly seek truth, seek Christ, they shall find Him....

And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart. Jer. 29:13

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. Matt 7:6-8

[Romeyo07]

A "challenge" I pass to non believers is based upon that very scripture you posted about calling upon God and Him answering. If you really want to know Him, just ask Him to show Himself to you. If you don't care to know, then I guess that's your decision. What do you have to lose? If you never see something from your request, no harm no foul, right?

[ahmonrah]

i've been baptised a few times....didnt keep a gun outta my face on 2 occasions and nearly killed once. ehh....the same day a crow shit on my head....oh well..

[Romeyo07]

What does your baptism have to do with getting a gun pulled on you?

[Hulud]

i've been baptised a few times....didnt keep a gun outta my face on 2 occasions and nearly killed once. ehh....the same day a crow shit on my head....oh well..

pwnt

[speedminded]

A "challenge" I pass to non believers is based upon that very scripture you posted about calling upon God and Him answering. If you really want to know Him, just ask Him to show Himself to you. If you don't care to know, then I guess that's your decision. What do you have to lose? If you never see something from your request, no harm no foul, right?

For the believers there's no reason to call upon him or expect a reply...open your eyes and see the world: see the plants & trees, the mountains, the animals, the creeks, rivers, and oceans, etc and you realize his presense...BUT that leads to it doesn't matter if you believe or not, whether you have been baptised or not, or if you go to church or not and anyone that tries to force their beliefs upon someone is not who or what they claim to be...just respect the things i mentioned, whether you think a single being created them or they evolved to what you see today, including people and be caring and considerate of others when at all possible and go about your life. Rough times come upon everyone, regardless of what you believe in...all that matters is how you deal with it.

[ahabion]

to simply answer the question about what baptism is, metalman hit it right on the head.

Its a practice to show that you are laying down your old life and being raised up with a new life with Jesus Christ. Soooo... you are laying down your old life, which was yours... the life you knew before was yours.... and now.... you are raised with a new life... so the life that you once had is now gone, laid to rest, while the new life is no longer yours but is Christ's life... so you no longer live for yourself, but for christ.

[BlkCD5]

I've been baptized twice already